1 A class demon from yyh vs all bleach characters

[Righteous Judgment]

Honestly until S class is attained no one in Yu Yu is moving at shunpo speed

[Righteous Judgment]

you have a scan of someone with measuring equipment stating unequivicably that someone else is moving at or past the speed of sound?

If you have that Ill reconsider my stance but I know no such thing exists so yeah...

[Vizard Hiei]

no but i do have scans of C+ class kuwabara and yusuke dodging several bullets easily

[Kel]

We've already been over the bullet dodging.

Bring something new to the table or proof of your sound theory.

[Vizard Hiei]

^ alright anyways i was just trying to prove that yusuke was past sound and he did not need the bike to catch up with the truck or whatever

anyways B+ class yusuke after taking off his handcuffs was so fast that nobody except maybe toguro saw his movements not even hiei and kuwabara who could see bullets moving in slow mo and were several times the speed of sound were able to see his movements then even yusuke at that speed was not able to keep up with toguros speed so toguro>>>>>yusuke>>>>>hiei>>>>>kuwabara in speed in the dark tournament and lets not forget they trained for the dark tournaments and increased all of there stats by the dozens so if they were 5 times the speed of sound at the rescue yukina arc and they got dozens of times faster then they are clearly fast

and dont forgot the the jump from B+ class to A- class is possibly the biggest power up maybe by the thousands meaning all of there stats should go up by the thousands

i am not sure if shunpo is teleportation or really fast movement but i heard with it they can move several miles in a second with it

[Kel]

I'm still not seeing any viable proof from you that he's 50x the speed of sound.

Nor are you really arguing that his speed, assuming it is that fast, would enable him to achieve victory against every damn bleach character. =/

[Vizard Hiei]

^ C class demons move several times the speed of sound and B class demons are superior to them in every stat by the dozens so hiei could possibly be over 50 times the speed of sound

[Kel]

Yet you refuse to bring proof to the table.
All you're saying is 'they move fast' over and over, and you're not even trying to prove your statements other than 'they dodged bullets'.
And if you don't think a Bleach character can dodge a bullet then you've obviously hit your head recently.

[Vizard Hiei]

no i do think they can dodge bullets thats why i said they can travel several miles with shunpo

[Kel]

Then you aren't even making an argument towards the topic of this thread. =/

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by Kel

Because he can't.

He can lol, If C-class Yusuke and Kuwabara can see the bullet move so slow after their training with Genkai, and even able to dodge all those bullets. Its not just a single bullet.

Just because someone block 1000 petals? meaning they move faster than that. How do you know that those 1000 petals move faster than a bullet. They dont move that fast at all..

So it never happened, No one ever said what Bleach speed is. In YYH they have every detail. take a good example of B-Class Tagoro heck he was even faster.

That guy who uses sound attack with flute, Yusuke dodge it. So he can move faster than sound.

Your saying that Shunpo is fast and travel speed in several miles. They are only in city and it took a while for Ichigo just to reach his opponent to use shunpo. Maybe u need to take a good look again at those shunpo, compare to YYH speed.

D-Class Yusuke dodge a lightning from the begining of the series.

[Righteous Judgment]

Originally Posted by Vizard Hiei

^ alright anyways i was just trying to prove that yusuke was past sound and he did not need the bike to catch up with the truck or whatever

anyways B+ class yusuke after taking off his handcuffs was so fast that nobody except maybe toguro saw his movements not even hiei and kuwabara who could see bullets moving in slow mo and were several times the speed of sound were able to see his movements then even yusuke at that speed was not able to keep up with toguros speed so toguro>>>>>yusuke>>>>>hiei>>>>>kuwabara in speed in the dark tournament and lets not forget they trained for the dark tournaments and increased all of there stats by the dozens so if they were 5 times the speed of sound at the rescue yukina arc and they got dozens of times faster then they are clearly fast

and dont forgot the the jump from B+ class to A- class is possibly the biggest power up maybe by the thousands meaning all of there stats should go up by the thousands

i am not sure if shunpo is teleportation or really fast movement but i heard with it they can move several miles in a second with it

The fact that only Toguro could clearly see Yusuke's movements doesn't mean much of anything except that Yusuke was faster than his teammates in burst movement. The territory arc proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that their sustained movement is no where near that fast.

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by JAILTIME

The fact that only Toguro could clearly see Yusuke's movements doesn't mean much of anything except that Yusuke was faster than his teammates in burst movement. The territory arc proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that their sustained movement is no where near that fast.

Hmm Yusuke was faster than Hiei at Togoru arc. Because only Yusuke who advance at that point, thanks to genkai training.

If C-Class Kuwabara and Yusuke can see all those bullets move in slow action and dodge them all.

While Kuwabara stated that he cant see Hiei movement at all, when Kuwabara could clearly see a bullet move so slow. Hiei move faster than a bullet. Isn't it said the bigger the easiest to see? Hiei was biggert than a bullet 1000x and yet Kuwabara cant see him at all.

Hiei could not even see Tagoro movement and Yusuke movement. Hiei who is the fastest among their team cant see Tagoro or Yusuke movement clearly and they were both only a B-Class level.

[Kel]

You really need to learn grammar so it's easier for me to read half the crap you come up with.

1. If Hiei was the fastest then Yusuke wouldn't be going faster than him, don't contridict yourself.

2. Stop talking about bullets. It's annoying, and we all know they can see bullets, which does NOT mean they're going a million times the speed of sound and all that BS.

3. I'm not going to bother with the rest of anything else you said because it's all fairly idiotic AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS ARUGING ABOUT SPEED.

I've yet to see either of you argue how this "speed" will enable victory, which it won't. But you aren't even arguing the damn topic.

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by Kel

You really need to learn grammar so it's easier for me to read half the crap you come up with.

1. If Hiei was the fastest then Yusuke wouldn't be going faster than him, don't contridict yourself.

2. Stop talking about bullets. It's annoying, and we all know they can see bullets, which does NOT mean they're going a million times the speed of sound and all that BS.

3. I'm not going to bother with the rest of anything else you said because it's all fairly idiotic AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS ARUGING ABOUT SPEED.

I've yet to see either of you argue how this "speed" will enable victory, which it won't. But you aren't even arguing the damn topic.

1.) Yusuke at S-Class was fastest than hiei.

2.) Yusuke at tagoro arc was fastest than hiei, after Yusuke release the spirit cuff which gives him enormous of spiritiual ki.

3.) If you know that even Kuwabara who is the slowest can see bullets in slow motion and dodge them all. Yet Kuwabara cant see Hiei movement at all. That make Hiei move faster than speed of sounds back then when he was a C-Class.

4.) Yusuke dodge a thunder strike when he was just a D-Class.

Show us some evidence where Ichigo in his bankai dodging a sound attack? Im pretty sure none of the Bleach character can move faster than speed of sound or thunder strike itself.

[Vizard Hiei]

with shunpo they can move several miles in a second which is past sound speed by alot

anyways if kuwabara was 5 times (or more) the speed of sound during the rescue yukina arc he should of been dozens of times faster for the dark tournament which means 5 times the speed of sound X 24 (dozens so it has to be more than 12 and no more than 90 or something but this is the minimum i guess) = 120 times the speed of sound and kuwabara was practically the slowest of the group meaning if he and hiei (who was much faster than kuwabara) could not see yusukes movements yusuke should of easily been hundreds of times the speed of sound or maybe even thousands and yet yusuke at his strongest and fastest was still slower than toguro at his strongest and yet an A class demon (which is the one battling in this topic) is clearly faster than all the B class demons combined (probably)

and even sniper a D+ class demon showed shunpo movements maybe endomilk can help with this by showing us witch episode or part of the manga where this happened

Originally Posted by Marlie

Don't bullshit me on Bleach speed feats. Shunsui was able to take Nanao from the battlefield and return in a matter or seconds and Yama only called that impressive. Stark was able to completely disappear with Orihime and take her to the 4th tower in a matter of seconds and was still there to go with Aizen to invade Karakura. Yoruichi in her prime is said to have been so fast she was able to appear to be in 7 different places at once ALL OVER SOUL SOCIETY.

you mean this part of the magna?

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by Vizard Hiei

with shunpo they can move several miles in a second which is past sound speed by alot

anyways if kuwabara was 5 times (or more) the speed of sound during the rescue yukina arc he should of been dozens of times faster for the dark tournament which means 5 times the speed of sound X 24 (dozens so it has to be more than 12 and no more than 90 or something but this is the minimum i guess) = 120 times the speed of sound and kuwabara was practically the slowest of the group meaning if he and hiei (who was much faster than kuwabara) could not see yusukes movements yusuke should of easily been hundreds of times the speed of sound or maybe even thousands and yet yusuke at his strongest and fastest was still slower than toguro at his strongest and yet an A class demon (which is the one battling in this topic) is clearly faster than all the B class demons combined (probably)

and even sniper a D+ class demon showed shunpo movements maybe endomilk can help with this by showing us witch episode or part of the manga where this happened

1.) Shunpo doesnt move in Several miles in second. Maybe u need to read the translation of Shunpo and enable them to move in high speed in close range. It was not a miles movement.

If it was a mile they would have gotten into Hollow location, u know they are only located in the TOWN, So ur saying 1 Shunpo uses = Several miles already. They are only in ichigo TOWN. TOWN doesnt have 100 miles or 50miles road..

Now u saying that Shunpo move in several miles. LOL. they only move in meters maybe 50 meters gap each shunpo.

But 1 miles hell no LOL.

[Vizard Hiei]

oh i see now i guess i was wrong i heard somebody say that and since i did not know much about shunpo then i was wrong but if its that slow then hiei in episode of 6 of yyh performed shunpo movements with out trying

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by Vizard Hiei

oh i see now i guess i was wrong i heard somebody say that and since i did not know much about shunpo then i was wrong but if its that slow then hiei in episode of 6 of yyh performed shunpo movements with out trying

They going to have hard time even defeating Sniper, Sniper can hit opponent in the head with dice mile a way. It said there by Genkai that he was mile away. Cuz if Sniper wasn't mile away from them he would have been able to read sniper ki.

Sniper technique could move mile away from the city through the cave. but he isnt a power user.

[Vizard Hiei]

he is deadly though but not very strong and not fast compared to other characters anyways since its a A class demon here it should be tens of thousands of times faster than sniper