Byakuya vs Kenpachi

[Raug]

Bam. Simple and elegant.

[Apoo]

I can feel free to use my manga knowladge on this thread because to this point in the anime and up to the latest manga chapter...what you've last seen of Kenpachi was it. Byakuya get stronger.

Byakuya wins. (for now that is)

[OpTiMuSGOTFRAG]

Kenpachi is definetly strong enough to severly damage or kill byakuya. Also kenpachi WILL get his shikai and bankai which combined with his individual strength I shutter at the thought of him being capable of more.

[Apoo]

^^ Yuo are making too many assumtions, and I will assume that you do not read the manga. Byakuya is stronger than what we saw in the Renji fight.. Kenpachi does not get any stronger..he most likely will..but he is not at Byakuya's level.

[iQing]

Kenpachi has defeated at least 3 captains.

yea your saying byakuya coudl have killed tousen and the other guys and still ebstanding hell no kenpachi is a beat and one of the strognest captaisn and he doesnt even se his sword!

[Kyto]

Originally Posted by iQing

Kenpachi has defeated at least 3 captains.

3??

I know Tousen....he did fight Konumaru but I wouldn't say he beat him since they didn't actually start to fight cause the execution just started to take place at the same time they were about to brawl...but whos the third?? I'm forgot

[Sharinganuser]

if ichigo already beat kenpachi and had to actually train for ban kai jus to beat byakuya then byakuya would pwn him down hehe.

[Seshen]

In my oppinion I think Byakuya is the one who would come out of the fight alive....

However... if Kenpachi was ever able to develope even the slightest spiritual sence... and hear his beautiful sword call out its name.... he would achive shi-kai and that would just be terrifying....

[kami1]

My money is on kenpachi various reasons ,but first I have to clear up that ichigo did not beat kenpachi.I don't know where you guys are from & how you get down ,but the warrior rule & fighting code I go by round my ends(area/hood/blocks/where you live) is no matter what condition in a 1on1 is that the last man standing is the winner.If I recall the fight kenpachi was the last man standing>>therefore kenpachi won the fight.

But he did say he lost that was due to his rep/nickname=city defense/never falling down etc & cause his soul slayer broke which don't really mean shit in a fight If your the last man standing right?.

Anyway I pick kenpachi cause he can bang with pretty much most of the captains look what he did to tousen & fox face ,but I do question the way tousen fought he is a bad guy & I always think why didn't he just do spells on kenpachi when he was in his bankai & why didn't he chop his head off straight away?

But kenpachi still owned both those captains with ease even if its questionable.I don't think byakuya could own those 2 captains liek kenpachi did.kenpachi aint normal his own normal spirit pressure is as high as most captains with there soul slayers & thats him without using soul slayer if he knew his souls slayers name he would just get way too strong & would proably own a huge majority of teh captains.

But I see why people pick byakuya over kenpachi ,but quite frankly for most of the captains including byakuya there shikai are pretty useless against kenpachi ,kenpachi will just laugh it off espicially byakuya's shikai flower attack.

In a fight I would pick kenpachi for simple reasons he's battle squad captain who only fights in sword-arts.I don't think they have intrests in any kidou or other arts (except the self obsessed guy)so I don't think byakuya is faster then kenpachi ,byakuaya is definetly not physically stronger,There's no way byakuya's sword-arts is better then kenpachi cause byakuya sucks at sword-arts & thats what kenpachi specialize's in.

If Byakuya can't hit any shunpo moves he goes straight to his shikai & bankai's >>which is all byakuya would do against kenpachi.He would just have to go to bankai straight away thats his only option from then the fight would be intresting & kenpachi may take of his eye patch he can sense spiritual pressure so if byakuya bankai spirit force was high I don't think kenpachi would be dumb enough to be standing around waiting to get hit by something that can break buildings.Byakuya's bankai has a weakness kenpachi is battle wise he should be able to work it out.

And the fight would just get settled by the sword arts even though kenpachi ain't got his soul slayer forms he's got skills other captains have said so.He's had a lot of battles & for someone's spirit force who's as high or higher then most captains you can't say he would lose just cause his opponents knows spells & knows its soul slayer's name he beat the previous 11 division captain,& beat tousen & on the verge of beating fox captain<<so thats 2 captains he's beat the other looked like he was losing <<all that just shows bankai don't mean shit when your fighting kenpachi.

But again I go by sword-arts rule all arts cause thats a shinigami's main weapon so if a character sucks at sword arts I pretty much will never pick them.kenpachi wins this

[Adralek]

Byakuya IMO hes faster and has a bouquet(sp?) of flowers

[samseng_kgdusun]

kenpachi for sure cos even without the any bankai he able to defeat 2 captain

No he beat 3 captains people the old 11 and then tousen and then almost oxface but he would have won.

[Kyto]

Oh right....the previous 11th
O>_< *smacks forehead*
totally forgot

[Raug]

I really think at this point in time Byakuya would be the winner based on one reason. Kenpachi has the strength, but has very little speed. Byakuya, on the other hand, has both speed and strength even if his strength might not be as high as Kenpachi's.

[Apoo]

First of all, let me clear up that I think Kenpachi is a badass, and that he is an awsome character; but he would lose against Byakuya. I thaught many of the stuff you pointed out to make little sense.

Originally Posted by kyuubi1

My money is on kenpachi various reasons ,but first I have to clear up that ichigo did not beat kenpachi.I don't know where you guys are from & how you get down ,but the warrior rule & fighting code I go by round my ends(area/hood/blocks/where you live) is no matter what condition in a 1on1 is that the last man standing is the winner.If I recall the fight kenpachi was the last man standing>>therefore kenpachi won the fight.

Kenpachi did win that fight, but it took him ALL of what he had to win that fight. Ichigo did not have Ban-Kai, I belive that for Ichigo after His Ban-Kai it would be real easy to defeat Kenpachi.

Kenpachi usesd his max agaisnt Ichigo, don't say he did not, because you know he did. After Ichigo learned Ban-Kai, Kenpachi stands no chance.

Byakuya is far stronger than Kenpachi.

Originally Posted by kyuubi1

Anyway I pick kenpachi cause he can bang with pretty much most of the captains look what he did to tousen & fox face ,but I do question the way tousen fought he is a bad guy & I always think why didn't he just do spells on kenpachi when he was in his bankai & why didn't he chop his head off straight away?

But kenpachi still owned both those captains with ease even if its questionable.I don't think byakuya could own those 2 captains liek kenpachi did.kenpachi aint normal his own normal spirit pressure is as high as most captains with there soul slayers & thats him without using soul slayer if he knew his souls slayers name he would just get way too strong & would proably own a huge majority of teh captains.

First of all, He din't own those two captains, He owned Tousen.

People underestimate Komamura so much is not even funny.

How in the hell would Kenpachi, who has no powers to help him but his sowrd beat a 20 Meter giant with a blade.

Kokujou Tengen Myouoh is definetly underestimated. People just label his power as brute force. I would like to see how Kenpachi with nothing but his sowrd fairs against a giant.

http://www.bleach7.com/?page=informa...gacaptains/m07

Take another look at how ****ing big that is, and tell me how will kenpachi "cut" that.

Against Tousen is debatable. Sure Kenpachi won, but like you said Tousen got coky. Do you really think that if Tousen would have been more serious and used Demons art or atacks from afar Kenpachi would have still won?

And we do not yet know if Tousen can use Benihikou in his Ban-Kai state.

Originally Posted by kyuubi1

In a fight I would pick kenpachi for simple reasons he's battle squad captain who only fights in sword-arts.I don't think they have intrests in any kidou or other arts (except the self obsessed guy)so I don't think byakuya is faster then kenpachi ,byakuaya is definetly not physically stronger,There's no way byakuya's sword-arts is better then kenpachi cause byakuya sucks at sword-arts & thats what kenpachi specialize's in.

If Byakuya can't hit any shunpo moves he goes straight to his shikai & bankai's >>which is all byakuya would do against kenpachi.He would just have to go to bankai straight away thats his only option from then the fight would be intresting & kenpachi may take of his eye patch he can sense spiritual pressure so if byakuya bankai spirit force was high I don't think kenpachi would be dumb enough to be standing around waiting to get hit by something that can break buildings.Byakuya's bankai has a weakness kenpachi is battle wise he should be able to work it out.

And the fight would just get settled by the sword arts even though kenpachi ain't got his soul slayer forms he's got skills other captains have said so.He's had a lot of battles & for someone's spirit force who's as high or higher then most captains you can't say he would lose just cause his opponents knows spells & knows its soul slayer's name he beat the previous 11 division captain,& beat tousen & on the verge of beating fox captain<<so thats 2 captains he's beat the other looked like he was losing <<all that just shows bankai don't mean shit when your fighting kenpachi.

But again I go by sword-arts rule all arts cause thats a shinigami's main weapon so if a character sucks at sword arts I pretty much will never pick them.kenpachi wins this

Byakuaya is definetly much faster thatn kenpachi, you of all people should know that. Ichigo was able to follow Kenpachi's speed during their battle, but there is no way pre Ban-Kai Ichigo can follow shunpo.

There is no way Kenpachi can follow shunpo.

Cutting Kenpachi is not the way to win against him, but Bykuya's Ban-kai (I don't want to spoil to much, but you know what I'm talking about) and the other ability that he uses would Masacre Kenpachi...He can't take thousands of 6 feet high 3 feet wide baldes coming at him at the same time. No matter how much you like him, he can't take that.

Byakuya wins this with ease.

[miracle]

Originally Posted by OpTiMuSGOTFRAG

Kenpachi is definetly strong enough to severly damage or kill byakuya. Also kenpachi WILL get his shikai and bankai which combined with his individual strength I shutter at the thought of him being capable of more.

.... he doesn't have shikai nor bankai. that's the point that i'm trying to make. i dun care if he gets shikai and kill byakuya. i'm talking about CURRENT ANIME. juss about current anime. from wat you saw from anime.

[The Lustful One]

Originally Posted by Tony_Montana

Byakuaya is definetly much faster thatn kenpachi, you of all people should know that. Ichigo was able to follow Kenpachi's speed during their battle, but there is no way pre Ban-Kai Ichigo can follow shunpo.

Wasn't he following his shunpo on the bridge of the shrine of penitence or w/e when byakuya and ukitake were there?

[Sparda]

Byakuya but if Kenpahi just mastered his soul slayer and bankai he would totally own Kyakuya.

[Apoo]

Originally Posted by The Lustful One

Wasn't he following his shunpo on the bridge of the shrine of penitence or w/e when byakuya and ukitake were there?

I don't understand what you are saying.