current ichigo vs current kenpaichi

[Vizard Hiei]

this is somewhat similar to the kenpaichi vs grimmjow match except with some diffrences

in this match kenpaichi has more strenght than ichigo, more durability, more endurance, and possibly more reitsu

all ichigo has is alot more speed, agility and combat speed which when all combined would make this a tough match for both competitors to win

[GiantMidget]

Until we see if he can beat Number four i still have y money on kenpachi, he wtfpwned number 5 so easily just by putting both his hands on his sword.

[Kel]

Ichigo would most likely win simply because he has the ability to pull a win out of his ass when he's about to get his ass kicked.

(Other than when he like...nearly died or whatever against Ulq)

[KillMe]

if ichigo's bankai wasn't nerfed so that anyone and thier pet tortoise could keep up with it i would say ichigo would win - but considering that ichigo's bankai is now no faster than shunpou, kenpachi has way more power so he would win

[GiantMidget]

I don't know what Kubo was thinking when he made ichigos Bankai, its so useless....

[Vizard Hiei]

i think kenpaichi takes this match easily if he does the same thing he did to tousen and that is let the opponent stab him so he can land a strong attack

[Marlie]

Ichigo's Bankai is'nt nerfed. He's just going up against opponents that happen to be a shitload faster and stronger than him. In Bankai he could have beaten Dordoni and against Nnoitora he was already tired from fighting Grim. Ichigo still kicks the shit outta Ken. He's still a speed demon and Ken can't hit what he can't catch.

[KillMe]

oh come on everyone hes ever faced since byakuya has been able to keep up- his bankai was supposed to be something faster than was possible with shunpou - now its not - anyone who can use shunpou in battle now can complete nullify his bankai

specially if you consider than with youroichi gone byakuya was supposed to be the shunpou master so like i said somehow shunpou is now as fast as his bankai ( byakuya would murder him now )

face it his bankai is nerfed

[Righteous Judgment]

Vizard Ichigo should wtf pwn current Zaraki. Bankai Ichigo should beat current Zaraki but it probably would be a landslide victory.

[Vizard Hiei]

Originally Posted by Marlie

Ichigo's Bankai is'nt nerfed. He's just going up against opponents that happen to be a shitload faster and stronger than him. In Bankai he could have beaten Dordoni and against Nnoitora he was already tired from fighting Grim. Ichigo still kicks the shit outta Ken. He's still a speed demon and Ken can't hit what he can't catch.

correct but kenpaichi could do the same thing to ichigo to what he did to tousen let him stab him so he can deal massive damage

[Fresh1]

^ Ichigo would be too fast for Ken to counter attack like that and ist possible that a blow from him could be lethal, Tousen from what we have seen isn't at Ichigos level in terms of speed mainly, that strategy won't work for this battle.

[fuoff209]

Tough 1. I mean ichigo did beat kenpachi but that wuz becuz kenpachi wuz taking him lightly and he just found out hiz shikai ability. But i'm sure ken duz a lot of training. I don't know i say maybe a draw.

[KillMe]

in terms of brute strength kenpachi is easily the victor - no bankai no viazard transformations - and no shikai ability though i beleive ti is in its shikai state - and kenpachi wtf pwned arrancar #5 - ichigo bankai viazard the whole works and got pushed to the absolute limit by grimmy arrancar #6

yes kenpachi did play with noitora but the second he put his second hand on his sword it was all over for noitora instantly - ( note ichigo uses 2 hands fair bit of the time )

the only thing ichigo at the current levels has in his favour is speed and lets face it its been nerfed - kenpachi has fast enough reaction to fight at that speed if not move at that speed - hell who else can dodge an attack once its already hit him thats speedy

telling you the day kenpachi with both hands on his zanpakatou and calls out bankai bleach is over - the universe will explode out of teh page and kill tite kubo - cause kenpachi is the pwoerhouse of bleach

so back to witha nerfed bankai ichigo gets slaughtered

[Marlie]

Originally Posted by KillMe

oh come on everyone hes ever faced since byakuya has been able to keep up- his bankai was supposed to be something faster than was possible with shunpou - now its not - anyone who can use shunpou in battle now can complete nullify his bankai

specially if you consider than with youroichi gone byakuya was supposed to be the shunpou master so like i said somehow shunpou is now as fast as his bankai ( byakuya would murder him now )

face it his bankai is nerfed

Your an idiot. When has someone nullified his speed in battle? Every enemy Ichigo has faced since he fought Byakuya has been waaaaaaay stronger and faster than Byakuya. So using Byakuya as a mesurment is completely retared. Ichigo is'nt the fastest character in the series anymore cause he never was. There we always more bigger fish in the pond like Aizen and the other senior Captains lurking around. Back to the topic at hand Viazard Ichigo would smoke Ken. Other than some old sword moves Ken has'nt shown much improvement while Ichigo powered up by leaps and bounds.

[GiantMidget]

And yet he barely beat Grimmjow and ken beat Noitora.

[Marlie]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

And yet he barely beat Grimmjow and ken beat Noitora.

and that means what? Your comparing two different fighters. A hack and slash tank that's slow as molasses or a speedy, aggressive melee fighter with long range attacks.

[GiantMidget]

And yet Noitora is number 5 i doubt Aizen would make Noitora number 5 and grimm number 6 if Noitoro couldn't beat grimmjow.

[fuoff209]

Originally Posted by Marlie

and that means what? Your comparing two different fighters. A hack and slash tank that's slow as molasses or a speedy, aggressive melee fighter with long range attacks.

Agreed ken and noitra were better matched, it came down 2 brute strength. I don't think ichigo could beat noitra but i also don't think ken could beat byakuya. Why? itz becuz of the fighting style makez all the difference.

[Vizard Hiei]

Originally Posted by fuoff209

Agreed ken and noitra were better matched, it came down 2 brute strength. I don't think ichigo could beat noitra but i also don't think ken could beat byakuya. Why? itz becuz of the fighting style makez all the difference.

correct fighting styles do make differences if ichigo cant beat noitoria i highly doubt he will be able to beat kenpaichi is was like noitoria except superior

i still think kenpaichi can still win this if he uses the same strategy he used against tosen except this will be the tough part

ichigo is fast but anyways if kenpaichi manages to get a hold of his sword or his arm then ichigo would not be able to escape and would take massive damage that he might or might not survive (he would most likely survive but not many attacks such as from those though)

but we also have to consider that if kenpaichi resorts to that kind of fighting style he is eventually going to take some good amount of damage and loose alot of blood if he does not finish the job with with a couple of slashes

[Marlie]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

And yet Noitora is number 5 i doubt Aizen would make Noitora number 5 and grimm number 6 if Noitoro couldn't beat grimmjow.

and you don't think he could beat Nnoitora? Grim sure has no qualms about going head to head with Uli. Based on both of them going all out on each other I'd say Grim kicks the shit outta Nnoitora. Nnoi has nothing going for him brute strength and tanking damage which Grim can dish out a whole lot of. A>B>C does'nt work here.