Espada Vs. Vizard - Page 4

Righteous Judgment · 25-04-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NarutoSamaman

I agree^ and can't believe all the people who are suggesting the stronger Vizards wouldn't be able to take the espada. I can't see how the likes of a Captain class shinigami who has hollowified who is a senior captain wouldn't be able to beat the espada. Think about it this way, if they can't and they've been able to exceed the limits of the shinigami through hollow powers is Aizen's strength believable/even possible?

in all fairness to the ones who voted in favor of the espada no one knew much about the vizards back when this thread was created.

It's just some of us could tell the vizards were a force to be reckoned with from what little we did know.

NarutoSamaman · 25-04-2008, 02:15 AM

yeah- i didn't realise how old this thread was. but it should be pretty obvious now who's stronger.

Anbukakashi14 · 27-04-2008, 07:35 PM

forgive me if this is spoilers, but according to my sources Shinji was a captain, and Hiyori was a luitenant before they became viazard. At least I think the dude I saw in the captain robe was Shinji. (I go this from a scanlated chapter) That naturally makes them beast powerful.
Personally, I still think the Espada are more powerful. You know how you said that the Viazard could fight feral Ichigo without any strength power up. We really don't know that to be the case because ost of that episode was taken up by the two Ichigos fighting. Besides, the viazard with the fro was pushed to transforming when feral Ichigo used Cero. And Shinji said they wouldn't be able to last much longer if the fight persisted. When Shinji pwned Grimmjow grim was already in a bad way after fighting Ichigo and taking a direct hit from Hakuren. Not to mention he wasn't released. And like you guys said, uluqiora tore Ichigo apart when Ichigo had his mask on.

bluewingedD · 28-04-2008, 04:51 PM

One Shinji blow off fully hollized ichigos arm with just shikia without hollow mask, and he was trying to hold back. And tey said they would be able to hold out much longer yes, but they were refereing to not killing ichigo. Love was about to go hollow mask but never did. so that irrelavent. None of them were trying to kill ichigo while he was fighting his inter self they were just trying to preoccupy him, from the looks of thing anyone one of them could have killed him at will. And that's why they said who's every in there, when ichigo's time was up would be the one to kill him. Killing him was odiviously not to hard for them to accomplish.

2 uluqiora didn't tear apart hollow ichigo. Hollow ichigo was in control for the most part until his mask broke, that when he got his ass handed to him. And Hollow ichigo is nothing compared to the other vaizards.

And lastly Grimm grow didn't use that much energy while fighting ichigo with the mask the first time, since it only lasted 11 secs. And while ichigo was in banki, and combinded with a hollow mask, he still ended up losing, while Shinji was playing around with him, with just the mask, without, even going shikia, the power level between Ichigo and theother viazards is odivously huge. It only a blind person will fail to relive that.

And at this point it's a no brainer that the Viazards, out class the Espada, by what we've sen so far.

Righteous Judgment · 06-05-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewingedD

One KENSAI blow off fully hollized ichigos arm with just shikia without hollow mask, and he was trying to hold back. And tey said they would be able to hold out much longer yes, but they were refereing to not killing ichigo. Love was about to go hollow mask but never did. so that irrelavent. None of them were trying to kill ichigo while he was fighting his inter self they were just trying to preoccupy him, from the looks of thing anyone one of them could have killed him at will. And that's why they said who's every in there, when ichigo's time was up would be the one to kill him. Killing him was odiviously not to hard for them to accomplish.

2 uluqiora didn't tear apart hollow ichigo. Hollow ichigo was in control for the most part until his mask broke, that when he got his ass handed to him. And Hollow ichigo is nothing compared to the other vaizards.

And lastly Grimm grow didn't use that much energy while fighting ichigo with the mask the first time, since it only lasted 11 secs. And while ichigo was in banki, and combinded with a hollow mask, he still ended up losing, while Shinji was playing around with him, with just the mask, without, even going shikia, the power level between Ichigo and theother viazards is odivously huge. It only a blind person will fail to relive that.

And at this point it's a no brainer that the Viazards, out class the Espada, by what we've sen so far.

QFT and a fix

stiffy · 07-05-2008, 03:20 PM

I will vote for Vizard too, seeing how Ichigo owns grimm and most likely the other vizards are stronger than Ichigo, it's hard to say that the vizard will lose to espada.

uluqiora did tore Ichigo apart when Ichigo had his mask on but I don't think Ichigo is stronger than some of the vizards.

it's still pretty hard to tell who will really win since we have not seen all their ability, but I will vote for vizard anyhow.

Blackghost164 · 10-05-2008, 03:46 AM

vaizards for sure all of them are at least as strong as the top three espada if not stronger and we havent even seen their full power's

gtdragon · 10-05-2008, 11:57 PM

The Vizard would win for sure. They have 3 ex-captains on their team who's strenghth is doubled by the fact that they can use Hollow powers like Ichigo. Shinji was beating up Grimmjow easily without even releasing his Zanpaktou. Shinji's shikai would beat Grimmjows released form no problems. Shinji's bankai must be way powerful and i think him and the other Vizards will defeat the top 3 Epsada, leaving Ichigo to face Ulquiorra.

25-04-2008, 02:15 AM	#62
NarutoSamaman ANBU Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,142 My Mood: Rep Power: 4	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard yeah- i didn't realise how old this thread was. but it should be pretty obvious now who's stronger. __________________

27-04-2008, 07:35 PM	#63
Anbukakashi14 Genin Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 125 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard forgive me if this is spoilers, but according to my sources Shinji was a captain, and Hiyori was a luitenant before they became viazard. At least I think the dude I saw in the captain robe was Shinji. (I go this from a scanlated chapter) That naturally makes them beast powerful. Personally, I still think the Espada are more powerful. You know how you said that the Viazard could fight feral Ichigo without any strength power up. We really don't know that to be the case because ost of that episode was taken up by the two Ichigos fighting. Besides, the viazard with the fro was pushed to transforming when feral Ichigo used Cero. And Shinji said they wouldn't be able to last much longer if the fight persisted. When Shinji pwned Grimmjow grim was already in a bad way after fighting Ichigo and taking a direct hit from Hakuren. Not to mention he wasn't released. And like you guys said, uluqiora tore Ichigo apart when Ichigo had his mask on. __________________ Not mine HITSUGAYA TOUSHIRO FC

28-04-2008, 04:51 PM	#64
bluewingedD Hunter-nin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: under your bed Posts: 2,401 My Mood: Rep Power: 11	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard One Shinji blow off fully hollized ichigos arm with just shikia without hollow mask, and he was trying to hold back. And tey said they would be able to hold out much longer yes, but they were refereing to not killing ichigo. Love was about to go hollow mask but never did. so that irrelavent. None of them were trying to kill ichigo while he was fighting his inter self they were just trying to preoccupy him, from the looks of thing anyone one of them could have killed him at will. And that's why they said who's every in there, when ichigo's time was up would be the one to kill him. Killing him was odiviously not to hard for them to accomplish. 2 uluqiora didn't tear apart hollow ichigo. Hollow ichigo was in control for the most part until his mask broke, that when he got his ass handed to him. And Hollow ichigo is nothing compared to the other vaizards. And lastly Grimm grow didn't use that much energy while fighting ichigo with the mask the first time, since it only lasted 11 secs. And while ichigo was in banki, and combinded with a hollow mask, he still ended up losing, while Shinji was playing around with him, with just the mask, without, even going shikia, the power level between Ichigo and theother viazards is odivously huge. It only a blind person will fail to relive that. And at this point it's a no brainer that the Viazards, out class the Espada, by what we've sen so far. __________________

07-05-2008, 03:20 PM	#66
stiffy Genin Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard I will vote for Vizard too, seeing how Ichigo owns grimm and most likely the other vizards are stronger than Ichigo, it's hard to say that the vizard will lose to espada. uluqiora did tore Ichigo apart when Ichigo had his mask on but I don't think Ichigo is stronger than some of the vizards. it's still pretty hard to tell who will really win since we have not seen all their ability, but I will vote for vizard anyhow.

10-05-2008, 03:46 AM	#67
Blackghost164 ANBU Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,650 Rep Power: 5	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard vaizards for sure all of them are at least as strong as the top three espada if not stronger and we havent even seen their full power's

10-05-2008, 11:57 PM	#68
gtdragon Academy Student Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Re: Espada Vs. Vizard The Vizard would win for sure. They have 3 ex-captains on their team who's strenghth is doubled by the fact that they can use Hollow powers like Ichigo. Shinji was beating up Grimmjow easily without even releasing his Zanpaktou. Shinji's shikai would beat Grimmjows released form no problems. Shinji's bankai must be way powerful and i think him and the other Vizards will defeat the top 3 Epsada, leaving Ichigo to face Ulquiorra.