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Old 14-07-2008, 02:17 AM   #21
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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

Actually, Zomari was faster than Byakuya....but that point is moot.
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As we have already seen Speed is not very common in YYH its all about power and spirirt/demon energy, that fire dragon isn't that fast. Ichigo at the beginning was already fast enough to appear in like 20 places at once, the 7th espada was as fast as byakuya who was as fast as ichigo, gtfo if you think Hiei can even touch espada number 7.
So your saying that Ichigo is faster than Hiei? because he can do after image in bankai?

So Ichigo is even faster than Goku because Goku can only produce a 5 After Image on Dragon Ball.

No shit, Goku kid was even faster than a rocket. No fuking bleach character move faster than a rocket.

And rocket doesnt move fast as a CLOSE RANGE Bullet shooting your face. A C-Class Yusuke dodge all those mp5 bullet like its nothing.

How fast do u think a Mp5 bullet travel at close range.

Your saying its not fast? Heck u do even know that Mokuru is fast enough to dodge it. Yet she cant dodge that Dragon.

YYH they evolve every stage their speed and strength.

So u cant use D-class hiei black dragon flame against A-Class hiei.

U go read the manga, hiei took out 500 A-Class demon in the dungeon.

No shet ESPADA vs 500 A-Class demon? Yea I wana see what can u do about it.

Even a Espada would not win against 500 Tagoro who just a B-Class.
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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

If Hiei was dumb enough out of pride despite being a B class demon at the time when he attacked that afro glasses guy and had his soul stolen from him, I'm sure after Hiei will most likely killing the first few espada's and finally reaching 8, he'd most likely have prepared for Hiei and prepared for counter measures.

But that was just one side of possibilities guys, the other can be considering Hiei is a high S class demon, he'd at least won't show his trump card killing off the weaker espada's until reaching 8. If 8 has no idea or knowledge of Dragon of the darkness flame then Hiei wins.

I think this battle will most likely go to my second option and will go past espada 8 considering Hiei is a beast.

Only one from Yu Yu Hakusho gang who can arguably beat 8's prep time will most likely be Kurama. He can think out of jams given the situation even if he did get the voodo doll treatment.
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So your saying that Ichigo is faster than Hiei? because he can do after image in bankai?

So Ichigo is even faster than Goku because Goku can only produce a 5 After Image on Dragon Ball.

No shit, Goku kid was even faster than a rocket. No fuking bleach character move faster than a rocket.

And rocket doesnt move fast as a CLOSE RANGE Bullet shooting your face. A C-Class Yusuke dodge all those mp5 bullet like its nothing.

How fast do u think a Mp5 bullet travel at close range.

Your saying its not fast? Heck u do even know that Mokuru is fast enough to dodge it. Yet she cant dodge that Dragon.

YYH they evolve every stage their speed and strength.

So u cant use D-class hiei black dragon flame against A-Class hiei.

U go read the manga, hiei took out 500 A-Class demon in the dungeon.

No shet ESPADA vs 500 A-Class demon? Yea I wana see what can u do about it.

Even a Espada would not win against 500 Tagoro who just a B-Class.
Yes Ichigo is faster then Hiei.
And yes he is faster then DB Goku

o wow, now your just begin retarded a rocket ship is way faster then bullet, a bullet moves at around 1000 m/s and a space shuttle moves at like 8000 m/s

Dude wining a match isnt always all about Spirit/demon energy or power, the special abilities of an individual plays a huge part, and espada number 7 and 8 can raped like almost every character in YYH.

# 8 can spray his liquid all over the area of those a class demons and control all of them.
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Yes Ichigo is faster then Hiei.
And yes he is faster then DB Goku

o wow, now your just begin retarded a rocket ship is way faster then bullet, a bullet moves at around 1000 m/s and a space shuttle moves at like 8000 m/s

Dude wining a match isnt always all about Spirit/demon energy or power, the special abilities of an individual plays a huge part, and espada number 7 and 8 can raped like almost every character in YYH.

# 8 can spray his liquid all over the area of those a class demons and control all of them.
lol? Huhauha Then ur a retard, saying Ichigo is faster than Hiei and Goku.

Im not talking about shuttle moron. Im talking about rocket being blasted from bazooka.

So Go and try to measure the speed.
A rocket blasted from bazooka targeting 100ft.
A Bullet shot from 5ft close.

Which do u think is faster? A bazooka reaching 100ft or A bullet hitting the target 5ft close.

So? ANyone could tell that a Bullet would fuking hit first, and C-Class Yusuke and Kuwabara dodges those bullet and they are all pretty slow to them.

So hiei uses his jagan eye and have access to the underworld and use hypnosis to the opponent? So what now huh? u talk about abilities, Hiei posses most abilities in YYH character. the Jagan eye has its own mind.

So Black Dragon Flame abilities burn everything and leave nothing in instant. so Espada doesnt have any abilities to top into that?

U talk about abilities, if we put Itachi with Susanoo + Amaratsu he can even pwn da crap out the bleach verse.

U cant even control hiei because he posses with jagan eye (evil eye). which can control hiei.

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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

this would be a very tough battle for hiei but i have no doubt he is far faster and stronger than any of the espada but hiei lacks strategic, and defensive techniques but he can make up for that with the sword of the darkness flame!
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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

Enomilk stop talking about bullets and rockets, you're being an idiot.
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^ he is technically right though 1 A class demon should be atleast over 50 times the speed of sound thats way faster than any rocket and faster than any bleach character
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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

he could beat yammi...and the aanero dude...but from the mad scientest #8 and on...i see him dying
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^ he is technically right though 1 A class demon should be atleast over 50 times the speed of sound thats way faster than any rocket and faster than any bleach character
Yes yusuke was so fast when he was running from that truck and knives when he was class A.
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:33 AM   #31
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^ he is technically right though 1 A class demon should be atleast over 50 times the speed of sound thats way faster than any rocket and faster than any bleach character
He was mentioning a rocket going 100ft and a bullet going 5ft.

You can't compare speed when the distances are that far apart, thus his argument was completely idiotic.
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^ i see what you mean

but anyways A class demons are too fast for any bleach characters to strike down
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You can't compare speed between the two.

In both shows when they are moving their fastest they completely disappear and reappear, so they could very well be moving the exact same speed without anyone being able to truly know.
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^ i see what you mean

but anyways A class demons are too fast for any bleach characters to strike down
YYH has barely any speed feat, plus speed doesnt really matter since Espada number 8 and 7 can beat you even if your fast.
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:43 PM   #35
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Default Re: hiei vs the espada

Why is it where endomilk is viziard is there too? None of the characters in YYH moved as fast as the chars in bleach. Hiei could beat maybe a lower espada like yama (Assuming he can pierce their skin with his fist/sword) but anyone higher like Szael or grimmjow is a resounding no.
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^ hiei after the dark tournament can practically kill anybody in bleach in a one on one battle

speed is a important part in battle

sniper a weak D+ class demon showed shunpo type movements when he appeared out of nowhere when sensui was standing on top of a house if he can do that imagine how fast B class hiei was after killing kuro! probably hundreds of times faster
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Class doesn't always mean speed, just look at those A class demons Hiei wiped out in Demon world, just like how in Naruto how not all jounins are fast like kakashi.
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Old 18-07-2008, 11:34 PM   #38
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hiei at that time was probably not a A class demon he was probably a S- class demon and those demons were a crowded in a room so hiei was able to wipe them out with one attack
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Not how i saw it, he slashed them 1 by one and that room was huge don't kid yourself, also stop making YYH worship threads to glorify your YYH.
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Why is it where endomilk is viziard is there too?
lol i agree with you there they should do an ip check maybe that person uses the same account . Or maybe they are friends and help each other on posting.
Anyway i agree with marlie we haven't seen no hypnothesis like aizens its pretty amazing everyone we seen on bleach seems to get affected (as we seen it). I think Bleach has this to much for hiei alone
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