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Old 13-02-2008, 10:28 AM   #1
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Default Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

I serached and didn't find one, if i'm blind close this.

In recent chapters we saw an eyepatched Kenpachi slice through Nnoitra's supposed hardest Hierro, and was able to handle him up until he released.

But, from what we've seen Nnoitra just seems to be a typical slice-chop guy with the ability to use a Cero added. Chad also mention that his movement weren't the fastest. Not very versetile if you ask me.

Grimmjow on the other hand showed that he is agile, and able to combine technique quite easily without disrupting his normal fighting pattern. He also managed, smoke or no smoke to trap Uliquiorra. Uliquiorra who manhadled Vizard Ichigo unreleased bare hands and all. Even if Grimmjow hid in the smoke Uliquiorra would still be able to sense where he'd gone if he could trace his reiatsu. Also when Grimmjow released, for the most part he seemed to be to be in control, and had the higher score on him on the end of the fight.

Basically my point is that Grimmjow's versitility > Kenpachi's crazy reiatsu and badassness.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

I'll have a better idea after I see this current manga fight with you know who to see where Kenpachi stands against Grimmy.....either way Grimmjow is winning either by a blow out or just by a win, just my guess.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

I'd say it depended on whether Kenpachi could catch Grimmjow. If he hits him, Grimmy is taking some serious damage, with possible loss of limbs. He can also tank a huge amount of damage, so for Grimmjow it will be a war of attrition. I have yet to see whether kendo increases Kenpachi's accuracy and attack speed, if it does then Grimmjow is going to have to be extremely careful to defeat him as one hit would completely end him.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

ken stopped noitoras cero with his bare hands - ken also showed obscenly fast reactions when fighting tousen so i think he'd murder grimmy - grimmy could escape easily enough as sure grimmy is faster over the ground - but kens exceletn reactions - fighting skill - ability to keep fighting no matter what hits him and his frankly osbcene destructive power win the day for him
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

Ken>Nnoi> grim

enough said . anyone disputing this fact is in denial.
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Old 17-03-2008, 09:45 PM   #6
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

Hell thats like saying the 7th will beat the 4th since he is the fastest
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

Kenpachi would win this one if he took of his eyepatch and used his 2 handed fighting style, hes not as slow as people make out as hes seen usin shunpo during the OVA's.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

^OVAs and Other filler dont even count

Ken can definetly cut GJ and deal major damage there is no denying that but does Ken have the speed or versitility? I dont honestly think so. I feel like this could go either way with GJ winning if he takes advantage of Ken's lack of versitility.
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Old 23-03-2008, 02:36 AM   #9
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

No Grimmjow is still in with a chance. Unlike Kenpachi he can fight long range with his elbow spikes and Gran Ray Cero not to mention Descaron or whatever. Kenpachi may be overwhelmingly better close up but Grimmjow can fight long range.

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No Grimmjow is still in with a chance. Unlike Kenpachi he can fight long range with his elbow spikes and Gran Ray Cero not to mention Descaron or whatever. Kenpachi may be overwhelmingly better close up but Grimmjow can fight long range.


It isn't denial its called looking over all the facts and making an argument.
If Grimm was a long range fighter, you might have a point, however Grimm didn't show any long range abilities that could clearly defeat Ken. Sorry.
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If Grimm was a long range fighter, you might have a point, however Grimm didn't show any long range abilities that could clearly defeat Ken. Sorry.
Wtheck is Gran Ray Cero then? Or his elbow spikes? Or Descagron? They may not be fully long distance but they still have more range then Kenpachi's sword...
And those attacks won't just tickle Kenpachi and considering Grimmjow's speed boost from releasing he can deliever them fast.

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^OVAs and Other filler dont even count

Ken can definetly cut GJ and deal major damage there is no denying that but does Ken have the speed or versitility? I dont honestly think so. I feel like this could go either way with GJ winning if he takes advantage of Ken's lack of versitility.
there has never been any need from what we have seen for ken to be versatile, maybe he is very fast, even if he isnt, if kenpachi could land a hit on grim with kendo, he'd be done, we have already seen him take out the 5th one, he could obviously take out the 6th one.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

yea this match is much to do about nothing, why ppl want to make a case for grimm beating kenpachi is beyond me, noit was everything grimm was and better, now the epsades said it themselves, they said they are rank by numbers, the lower the number the stronger the fighting, ken beat number 5 i would say very easy because had he just done kendo and not fucked around it would have been over the moment ken arrived, so if he can man handle 5 with out using the power of his sword which i still think he knows the name of, than of cause he can beat grimm
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

^No question that you're right.

In a situation where they are ranked in order of strength, you have to say that if you could beat number 5, even barely, that you could take on the other numbers.
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

I'd give this one to Kenpachi seeing how Ichigo pretty much demolished Grimmjow. Kenpachi has two ridiculous power ups and no fear of death or fighting.
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:27 AM   #16
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Default Re: Kenpachi vs. Grimmjow [spoilers]

Most everyone who's talking about Kenpachi has the right idea. Ichigo barely won his fight against grimmy. How do you think he would be against some one who's a lower rank, and much stronger? Ichigo probably would lose to him. so if that's the case.
Grim < Ichigo < Noi < Zaraki
Grim can't beat Ichigo, Ichigo can't beat Noi, Noi can't beat Zaraki.
As it was said earlier, Ken Man handled Noi while they were both unreleased. Kenpachi didn't even want to take off his eyepatch, he wasn't done playing, he probably could have killed him at that state. I'm thinking that Zaraki could take out Grim without his eyepatch taken off.
Those of you who said things about Gran Ray Cero. sure it's long range, but does it not take a few seconds to charge up? Sure Zaraki is no Yoruichi, but do you really think he's stupid enough to sit there and let him be a pansy shooting long range attacks at him? he'd probably go top speed at him.

If Grim tried to do his speed against Zaraki, he'd do what he did to Tousen, let the bastard stab him, grab his blade, then attack. If he was released, then he'd have to use his hands, and he'd be screwed over even more. Sure he can shoot his nails, but what's that gonna do? It might not even be able to penetrate his skin.
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Wtheck is Gran Ray Cero then? Or his elbow spikes? Or Descagron? They may not be fully long distance but they still have more range then Kenpachi's sword...
And those attacks won't just tickle Kenpachi and considering Grimmjow's speed boost from releasing he can deliever them fast.
The Gran Ray Cero that we only saw off panel? The elbow spikes that Ichigo took 5 direct hits from? Descagron that Ichigo cut through twice?

You are seriously over estimating Grimm's long range attacks and underestimating Ken's defensive skills and his ridiculous ability to take damage.
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Oh wow. I didn't even realize that's how many times I