Kuwabara(end of series) vs All of Bleaches Captains

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

does anyone here thing bleach characters cant dodge bullets, i mean shunpo is as fast as anything i haven seen in yyh, just cause no one shot a bullet at them doesnt mean they couldnt dodge it, didnt the lazy captain travel several miles below in a blink of an eye, and heck yammato got there before them

let see if 3-4 guys fire a MP5 whos about 10ft away from you, do you think they be able to dodge all those bullet? no..

Speed of a Bullet

It would even travel faster because the range is only about 10ft.

The Shunpo are not on A-Class level. Even B-Class togoru outclass their speed. Heck Togoru was able to transfer from another arena to another arena that fast when he throw that stadium arena.

[votehill4pres]

^ how do u know thats just speculation on ur part, nothing to say ur right, and nothing to say i am right, so its all just big speculation

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

^ how do u know thats just speculation on ur part, nothing to say ur right, and nothing to say i am right, so its all just big speculation

It is not a speculation because if you read the manga of YYH. In early level where Yusuke and Kuwabara who were just class-c invade a castle to save heie princess. Their opponent were shooting gun at them at close range and they just dodge them all. Kuwabara also noticed that they move slow compare to them.

[bluewingedD]

We can't really say what the speed of bleach is because we really have nothing to compare it too. But I do know that Kuwabara can keep up with Hei who is beyound fast even in compared to some of the more powerful S class demons. So Kuwabara should be able too keep up with the speed of the captains. And since his sword cut through anything like butter, yes anything... no agreement, it's fact. He will instant kill most of the captain if not all.

He will defeatly kill kenpachi, who who just let kuwabara cut him, he out in like the first couple of seconds. But how is this set up? He's fighting all of them at once? Or going through them one by one?

[endomilik]

Even by Going all at one. We know that A-Class speed is beyond than any B-Class level speed.

When it stated that if all B-Class demon fought a single A-Class user. A-Class still win, because every class have a big gap between their level.

Im putting all Captain in B-Class level. Although not on tagoro level, heck he throw a stadium plate to island to another island like an instant? No bleach could done that or have a strength to be able to move that fast or lift the stadium arena.

Kuwabara at A-Class level would just toy around with Togoru and Entire Bleach Captain.

Since even Sensui who's armor contain holy properties is afraid to Kuwabara dimensional sword who can cut through anything.

[votehill4pres]

Originally Posted by endomilik

It is not a speculation because if you read the manga of YYH. In early level where Yusuke and Kuwabara who were just class-c invade a castle to save heie princess. Their opponent were shooting gun at them at close range and they just dodge them all. Kuwabara also noticed that they move slow compare to them.

its is speculation because although what u say is true there is nothing to say that the captains and ppl in bleach couldnt do the same, u cant compare it, there certainly isnt an evidence in the way the show how fast they are moving, they show it all the day, they disappear and reappear, there isnt a guide that say who is moving faster so it is speculation

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

its is speculation because although what u say is true there is nothing to say that the captains and ppl in bleach couldnt do the same, u cant compare it, there certainly isnt an evidence in the way the show how fast they are moving, they show it all the day, they disappear and reappear, there isnt a guide that say who is moving faster so it is speculation

That the point here. Where a C-Class level could move faster than a gun bullet, Where A-Class level is beyond C-Class level..

Even if you Combine all C-Class and B-Class to go against a single A-Class. A-Class level still going to win. Because that how it was said on manga.

Let see All C and B Class fight the whole shinigami, you will see it for yourself that Shinigami will loose this fight. Then you want a single A class which owned every B C or D class at the same time.

Just look in the thre kings tournament. When hiei was training in the dungeon, Mokuro send a 500 A-Class demons to fight hiei and Hiei was A+ class level at that time and those 500 A-Class demon was nothing to hiei.

No one in Bleach is faster than a A-Class level.
C-Class level = faster than gun bullet.
B-Class level = way too much faster, Did you just see togoru he just flick his finger and Yusuke who can see a gun bullet in SLOW MOTION could not even see it?...
A-Class level = way too much faster, Kuwabara will just toy around against Togoru.

[votehill4pres]

^ when u say no one in bleach is faster than a class level that my friend is speculation

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

^ when u say no one in bleach is faster than a class level that my friend is speculation

It is not a speculation. A Class level is way faster than Bleach Captain.

Get it here.

C-Class level = Kuwabara who is the slowest character in YYH. Could Dodge a Mp5 Bullet at close range. [Yusuke and Kuwabara see them pretty slow]

B-Class level = Yusuke and Kuwabara and their Team could not see Togoru flick finger. But they can see a GUN BULLET in SLOW MOTION?

A-Class level = Hiei who's even fastest among their team, could not see Yusuke movement when he fought sensui.

S-Class level = uber pwned.


You see Even Sensui who's the weakest S-Class, could destroy earth by just releasing 10% of his energy feared Kuwabara sword? Even Sensui who's on armor suit. and Kuwabara could keep up on Sensui speed?

Anyone who could keep up against sensui speed, outclass any bleach captain.

Even Captain cannot move fast as Togoru.

[Sasori da God]

sensui could only do that because his energy wasnt supposed to eist in the human realm or some crap

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by Sasori da God

sensui could only do that because his energy wasnt supposed to eist in the human realm or some crap

Yet he feared kuwabara sword? and he got owned by yusuke awaken power (possed).

[Sasori da God]

im actualy agreeing with you on this fight i just dont like people giveing yu yu hakushu a higher power scale than they have

[votehill4pres]

Originally Posted by endomilik

It is not a speculation. A Class level is way faster than Bleach Captain.

Get it here.

C-Class level = Kuwabara who is the slowest character in YYH. Could Dodge a Mp5 Bullet at close range. [Yusuke and Kuwabara see them pretty slow]

B-Class level = Yusuke and Kuwabara and their Team could not see Togoru flick finger. But they can see a GUN BULLET in SLOW MOTION?

A-Class level = Hiei who's even fastest among their team, could not see Yusuke movement when he fought sensui.

S-Class level = uber pwned.


You see Even Sensui who's the weakest S-Class, could destroy earth by just releasing 10% of his energy feared Kuwabara sword? Even Sensui who's on armor suit. and Kuwabara could keep up on Sensui speed?

Anyone who could keep up against sensui speed, outclass any bleach captain.

Even Captain cannot move fast as Togoru.

all this is speculation, damn how do u know they couldnt, DAMN CANT U SEE WHAT I AM SAYING, U GIVE ALL THESE FACT ABOUT YUYU AND THAN SAY NO ONE IN BLEACH IS THAT FAST, AND UR NOT USING FACT, its speculation damn why cant u see that

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

all this is speculation, damn how do u know they couldnt, DAMN CANT U SEE WHAT I AM SAYING, U GIVE ALL THESE FACT ABOUT YUYU AND THAN SAY NO ONE IN BLEACH IS THAT FAST, AND UR NOT USING FACT, its speculation damn why cant u see that

No one in bleach that fast.

1.) Shunpo = They been using it all the time, they were in the city just to go to hollow location. It took them a while just to get on their location.

2.) No one said in Bleach that they move faster than light. Just because you can see them re-appearing that doesnt mean they are fast, because early in naruto series they been doing that already re-appearing behind the opponent even tho it is long range.

3.) It never happen in Bleach. If they moving faster than a bullet.
- They could easily get into hollow location, anyone moving in MS. Heck Sonic could travel from another country and it doesnt take much longer than Shunpo, Heck you can see sonic speed? While in Shunpo you dont.

[Chinari]

all this is speculation, damn how do u know they couldnt, DAMN CANT U SEE WHAT I AM SAYING, U GIVE ALL THESE FACT ABOUT YUYU AND THAN SAY NO ONE IN BLEACH IS THAT FAST, AND UR NOT USING FACT, its speculation damn why cant u see that

I'll answer your question. Because he is RETARDED. lol

You notice how once he comes into a thread mostly everyone just stops posting. It's because they know his idiocy is boundless and are waiting for him to just get banned again so they dont have to deal with his nonsense.

This is one of those fights where the two universes are too different and it requires too much speculation to really say who the winner would be IMO. Theres no way we could tell if the Captains would be slower or faster and theres no way we could tell if YYH people would even be able to see a shinigami.

If Kuwa can see Shinigami I think he might win but I'm not sure with all the captains at the same time. Especially since we havnt seen all of their bankai and what they do.

[endomilik]

First, Saying Kuwabara cant see a shinigami?

I said, You dont read manga or watch the YUYU Hakusho.

Do you know what is a Shinigami? Did you even see Kuwabara is talking to a shinigami (Death God in japanese translation.) (Grim Reapear in english).

Kuwabara can see Botan, Can see spirit ghost even see Koenma. now where did you make this UP? that Kuwabara cant see a shinigami.

He can even see Itsuki whos the gate keeper.

No Bleach character even MOVE FROm mountain to mountain. Did u see that shit tagoro who's just class-b able to move from another mountain?

[Dwindlin]

Dude, there is no comparison. In speed YYH owns Bleach i'm sorry. Sniper a D- class is so fast he can appear miles away in the blink of an eye. So, don't try and use that as some base of speed. The fact of the matter is, is that Kuwabara could own Toguro. Toguro was so powerful that mountain destorying reiguns didn't even hurt him. Ok, period. A class demons are so powerful they can take out countries. No Bleach Captain stands a chance. Even if they fought him all at once. Kuwabara would rapestomp all of them.

Hiei at the beginning of YYH. Does the little after image trick that was so amazing in bleach.

P.S. In the manga Seikouki has no special properties. It's just considered the holiest energy in spirit world. Therefore, the poster above stating the S classes cannot destory the world is wrong. ^_^.

Oh yeah, and just to add, When Kuwabara and Yusuke dodged those bullets they were low C- class. C+ class are so fast they can detach people's limbs without them even noticing. Yusuke's C- class speed which is so fast that even kuwabara didn't even know what was going on, is quiet possibly to much for the fastest bleach characters. Show me a scene where a Bleach character is so fast they can perform attacks before people can even comprehend that they moved.

[Dwindlin]

Please, Seiryuu is so fast he'd make most bleach characters heads spin. At the beginning of the Series YYH characters are extremely fast. Seiryuu can throw a 100 punches in a split second. He's a D class demon.

YYH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bleach. There is no comparison. Sensui with one punch would annihilate every bleach character in existence. He can destory a entire plateau with just the shockwave of a punch. This plateau contained mountain ranges as insignificant little specks.

Toguro Single handly would chew up every bleach character and spit them out. Maybe not at once. But, he would murder them.

[Dark Janza]

Ecen a D class Hiei was fast enough to leave after images.

Toguro wasn't strong enough in my mind, but he was still cause problems for quite a few Bleach characters.

Think about this. Kuwabara as A class was able to cut through ultra powerful barriers. Bleach characters wouldn't be able to block any attacks from him.

[Vizard Hiei]

this is a joke right? 1 A class demon such as kuwabara would slaughter the bleach universe

i made a topic like this yesterday on a diffrent website and people though i was stupid and they also though it was a one sided battle but when i proved them wrong with scans and stuff they still though that bleach>>>>>>>>yyh in speed, energy, reflexes, etc. but they only agreed with me on one thing yyh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bleach in strenght

but this is what i think

1 A class demon>>>>>>>>all bleach characters in strenght, speed, etc.

actually hiei(end of dark tournament)>>>>>>>>all bleach characters in speed, strenght, etc.