Kuwabara(end of series) vs All of Bleaches Captains

[Nefelpitou]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Dude there are visual proof that YYH that A class people are vulnerable to trucks and knifes

In that scene, those were knifes reinforced by Ki. Think Trunk's sword: a blade reinforced with Ki can have an indeterminate amount of power. You also keep using that scene to try and prove how slow A classes are, when that scene contradicts several speed showings at lower level earlier in the YYH Manga.

I think that the scene may have been a case of Plot Induced Stupidity. A great scene, but an outlier in terms of reliable feats, given all of the earlier feats that contradict it.

[Vizard Hiei]

dude B class demons getting hit by mountain destroying attacks and surviving means nothing then?

1 A class demon are thousands of times more durable than all the B class demons combined

why do people keep referring to A class demons being chased by trucks, knives etc.

it was pretty obvious that yusuke was not A class he was still B+ if he was A class then hiei would of not been able to match him in combat becuase hiei became A class after the yusuke vs sensui battle on earth and if he would of been A class the SDF would of came to stop him long ago

[Kel]

YYH > Bleach

I'll just come out and say your point for you so you can stop posting.

[GiantMidget]

Because Yusuke ran away from a truck and knifes.

Also Kuwabara is stupid and has shown no speed feats at all,m the class aret measured by speed and durablility, Hiei killed like 1000 of those s class in like 1 hit with his sword.

Point is Kuwabara is stupid, when he sees Aizen its over period.

Also Kel we're not talking about YYHverse overall, we're talking about individual characters in the show and Kuwbara cannot beat Aizen, maybe Hiei and Kurama can but not Kuwabara.

Thats like saying since DBZ> Naruto Chi chi can beat 4T Naruto.

[Kel]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Also Kel we're not talking about YYHverse overall, we're talking about individual characters in the show and Kuwbara cannot beat Aizen, maybe Hiei and Kurama can but not Kuwabara.

Except topics keep popping up arguing virtually the exact same thing, and it's fairly idiotic.

[GiantMidget]

Is that my problem its these YYH fanboys who keep making bleach and DBZ threads to glorify YYH.

[Nefelpitou]

^ You're right. This thread never should've been made.

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Because Yusuke ran away from a truck and knifes.

You're right, but he was also running at speeds far slower than he showed before. He was also seemingly afraid of a gun being pointed at him (in the Manga, he thought it was pointed at him initially) when we see him not-so-freaked out in Tarukane's mansion.

My point: the Sniper scene was fun, but it was full of Plot Induced Stupidity. That is, Mr. Togashi made Yusuke slower and weaker in order to suit the plot. Same thing happens in Marvel comics. Like when Spiderman beat Firelord. Or when Thor took down a Celestial. Given previous showings, it shouldn't have happened.

If you take feats from that scene in the YYH Manga alone, without looking at all the other earlier feats that contradict it, you gonna get the wrong idea.

[Vizard Hiei]

A class kuwabara is far faster than aizen when the match first starts aizen would be chopped to pieces

[GiantMidget]

How many times do I have to say it just because your a class A doesnt mean your faster then a class B. Yusuke was class A yet he was running away from trucks, and it hap[pen so we can disregard it, that has become the marker for Yusukes speed at class A, and Kuwabara is not faster then Yusuke.

[Vizard Hiei]

yusuke was never A class around that time he was B+ class still

and you still keep using the running away from trucks part when they clearly dodged bullets as easily as making a sandwich earlier in the manga

[Nefelpitou]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

How many times do I have to say it just because your a class A doesnt mean your faster then a class B. Yusuke was class A yet he was running away from trucks, and it hap[pen so we can disregard it, that has become the marker for Yusukes speed at class A, and Kuwabara is not faster then Yusuke.

Yet Yusuke was moving so slow in that ONE SCENE that people could still see him. As a D- class, he was moving faster than the eye could see to keep up with Hiei. As a C+ class, he was moving so fast he couldn't be seen at all for extended periods of time. C+ classes were moving at supersonic speeds.

Speed also generally jumps up with class levels. Yusuke got faster as he got stronger, as did Kuwabara, Hiei and Kurama. Can't you see that the scene you are using is full of Plot Induced Stupidity.

[GiantMidget]

It doesn't matter how Fast Yusuke is or Hiei, speed is not always the case with class, Kuwabara is not fast period. Those A class demons in the dudgeon were slow as hell too yet they were A class like Hiei.

[Vizard Hiei]

in that dungeon there was 500 A class demons stuffed into a small room which is probably the reason why hiei killed them all with one dragon of the darkness flame

[GiantMidget]

He didn't do that he sliced them individually and that room was huge.

@ that scan you posted in the other thread about Kuwabara's speed

That still wouldn't be faster then Aizen, Byakuya in an instant went past ichigo broke his sword with his hands and stab him as well and went back in place and that was before ichigo reached the ground to slice renji and that was with his limiter of 20% power, all in an instant and Byakuya is still like a noob compared to Aizen who is at the pinnacle of every aspect of a shinigami, just by Kuwabara seeing Aizen with his zapactou he is already under the illusion Kuwabara isn't the type of fighter to just go for the kill, lets say Kuwabara can keep up with Aizen's speed, then what? he will still see his sword and be under the illusion and its not just Aizen hes fighting, Mayuri will be there to release poison gas and lets just say Aizen can't kill him after he puts an illusion on him Soifon canautomatically kill anyone if she stings them twice.

[Vizard Hiei]

yea but thats at C class level and A class kuwabara should be thousands of times faster than that

[GiantMidget]

So where is your proof of this thousand times faster speed? A class Yusuke struggling to out run a truck?

[Vizard Hiei]

all i am is that it makes sense


but B+ class yusuke being is bull

[Fresh1]

GiantMidget is pretty much right, I love YYH to death but there are plenty of plot holes that make it evident Kuwabara would be lucky to beat even one Captain, everything on his speed is pretty much speculation, he wasn't extremely fast by any means towards to end of the series, as far as the gun dodging goes I don't know what to tell you, in his case he seemed to only decline in speed from there.

Prolly going to end up having to close this thread since its really nothing more then speculation then anything and 13 captains v/s 1 Kuwabara is overkill, if your thinking logically anyway.

[Vizard Hiei]

anyways besides speed A class kuwabara could destroy countries

if youb want proof i have proof

[Fresh1]

Your next post needs to contain some evidence that Kuwabara can destroy countries or stop throwing around these testaments to his unproven power your claiming.