Naruto Manga Chapter 425 discussion thread

[bigtsunadetitti]

I really sincerely hope that kishi isn't even considering killing off kakashi, because not only is he the fav character, he also is the bomb and is required for this manga to be interesting. He is a dynamic character that has been there from the beggining and has shaped this story into what it is. If he goes... I will personally travel to nihon and wipe kishi's ass with a wood rasp. Several times.

[Poncho Sama]

You know what's interesting. Naruto can have one KB in sage mode. One KB in Kyuubi mode. One KB in regular mode and a couple KB doing FRS. I want to see that.

[sikwidit]

Originally Posted by erosennin6996

I respect your opinion Penguinism, but you have not given a logical reason why Naruto can't learn the amphibian sage fusion jutsu Fukasaku tried to do with him. He's learnt every other sage technique why not this one. It appears to be just one more jutsu. there was no mention of it being different or usable only by the Toads. So Naruto should be able to learn it like he learnd every other sage jutsu. And therefore if Naruto could learn it then his KB could do it with him. Of course there's the problem with their size, but perhaps Fukasaku has a solution for that.

I see only three possibilities at this point. One, Naruto learns the fusion technique and fuses with his own KB to complete the sage mode. Two, Fukasaku introduces the key and Naruto gains control of the Kyuubi chakra eliminating the problem. Or three, Naruto is captured and the Kyuubi removed, but he somehow survives.

Personally I'd like to see both one and two happen. Three however is my least attractive proposition and I will probably stop reading this manga if that happens any time before the end of the series.

2 sounds great. but i dont think naruto will just use his control over the kyuubi just so he could fuse with fukasaku. He's gonna actually use it to find a way to let the kyuubi draw nature chakra for him.

and stop with the i'll stop reading this manga if this or that happens shit. im so tired of people saying that. u all know that when ur mad about something and say ur gonna stop reading the manga u never do and in a few chapters yall on kishi's dick."so thats why that happened, ur a true writer kishi." Seriously its just ridiculous

[bigtsunadetitti]

Originally Posted by OpTiMuSGOTFRAG

Yep, this is Kakashi's time to shine. When he comes to, he's going to live up to the legendary name that he has built in a way that we haven't seen him do before.

He will finally showcase that he is ready to be Hokage. We'll also have an opportunity to see what God realm pain can do when he's pushed to fight more seriously.

Kakashi can look just as badass with it off. Don't be taken aback by the way his father looks without a mask on. No way Kakashi will look that un-cool without a mask. Kakashi will look cooler than that just as how Itachi, Sasuke, God Realm Pain and a number of other shinobi have looked amazing without masks.

I agree.

Also kudos on the mask comment. Personally I estimate that kakashi is so awesome that even though he's Japanese, he has the ability to grow, and indeed does posses, a Ron Burgandy caliber moustache.

[loom]

Kishi left on such a high note last 2 weeks and gives us this half baked chapter as a return present. Was expecting much more. The chapter was named Kakashi but kakashi had just about 4 or 5 panels. Nothing significant happened except the info on kyuubi rejecting the frog. As a side note, the anbu guys are quite badass!!

[the rizay 1]

Why did kishi show konahomaru. I think konahomaru saw danzo kill that frog. That seems to be the only logical way he can have a impact on whats going to happen.

[Hanukkah Harry]

kakashi got a nail to the brain
he's dead

That was the last we saw of him. That's why the chapter was called "Hatake Kakashi". They'll probably remove the mask when they find his body.

Point is, he's dead. No one can heal him if he's already dead. Slug can heal bad wounds, but when you're hit in the brain, instantly dead. No coming back. End of story.

[haydee]

After finally getting to read the scanlated chapter, I do think Kakashi's dead. We already have an idea about his past since there was that in between short manga chapters on his life as a kid and so forth. I dont think just becuase it shows him talking to his dad that its a sign he will come back from the dead. I hope I'm wrong cuase I will miss Kakashi.
Konohamaru definately saw something and I want to know what, that look on his face shows his looking for someone.

[Olsen617]

Originally Posted by zshortysmall

kakashi got a nail to the brain
he's dead

That was the last we saw of him. That's why the chapter was called "Hatake Kakashi". They'll probably remove the mask when they find his body.

Point is, he's dead. No one can heal him if he's already dead. Slug can heal bad wounds, but when you're hit in the brain, instantly dead. No coming back. End of story.

... Sorry, no. Kakashi avoided the nail by sending it into another dimension with his MS and is dying or has died from chakra depletion.

I apologize for posting simply to correct someone but that seemed necessary.

Also I apologize for sounding like an ass in my correction.

[naffizi]

question....why does naruto even need fukasu to fuse so as to use sage chakra?

answer..... He doesn't.....like every other jutsu he learned he'll use kb. He can use kb to distract while he is motionless....amassing the sage chakra..so its senseless even having fukasu

anbu = awesome

kakashi = alive


pein = ????????????????

kishi = cliffhanger specialist

[Soph_dre]

Originally Posted by bigtsunadetitti

I really sincerely hope that kishi isn't even considering killing off kakashi, because not only is he the fav character, he also is the bomb and is required for this manga to be interesting. He is a dynamic character that has been there from the beggining and has shaped this story into what it is. If he goes... I will personally travel to nihon and wipe kishi's ass with a wood rasp. Several times.

It's seems that he has slipped onto the border of life and death. His Sharingan should deactivate indefinitely if he passes away and comes back. He has been living for Obito with that eye. Personally, I hope he loses the Sharingan and begins to embrace the Hatake clan he seemingly rejected after his father's absense. Like you said, he is a dynamic character and it seems he could be in the midst of a transformation.

!!!The Return of the White Fang, F*** that Copy Ninja S***!!!

One more thing, ANBU is simply amazing!!! Wind Slicer>>>Four Pilar Lightning>>>Earth Element -Trap Door, then their like "That didn't work, let's just find the bastard and kill'em personally lol" (Not their words)

[Etah]

So Fukasakuu cannot fuse with naruto because of kyuubi right?

To use the the chakra of nature naruto needs a lot of chakra... and also, when he is in sage mode he is immune to pain and all that other cool stuff..

What if when naruto goes into sage mode, he can release all of that kyuubi chakra without transforming into kyuubi? Or what if he finds a way to go into super mode where he releases all that kyuubi chakra and then gets the equivalent in nature energy...

or
... what if, in his fight sometime, he is taken over by the kyuubi completely, and then he realizes that he is completely one with nature because he has no control over his body, so then he absorbs all of that nature energy and in going into sage mode, he regains control of his body, thus also being in a super sage mode

I bet that happens. Then naruto will NEVER have to worry about the kyuubi taking control over him again... he can just go into super sage mode to counter-act it. lol

[IonRom]

Kyuubi takes over when Naruto is stressed, unhappy, enraged. This are not the states the mind where you can access and mold Sage chakra. Pa frog said that you have to stay absolutely still to access it.
Does Naruto stay still when it goes into Kyuubi mode?
I agree with Cane the chapter is somewhat dissapointing coming after a week break but I guess Kishi is milking the cash cow that is Kakashi situation.
Optimus: how do you learn jutsus from dead bodies? Dead bodies don' t have a consciouses. If learn jutsu from captured enemies, the Rain villagers and the guys he captures during his forays. Jirayia knew Pain bodies from his journeys that didn' t take him into Rain country every time. Pain is capable of performing every jutsu it doesn' t mean that he knows all of them or can perform blood line ones. Remember that Sassori, Kakuzu, Orochimaru were able to access blood line abilities or elemental based jutsus through the dead flesh of their enemies maybe Pain has similar access. So Pain would transfer his conscious and try to see what that body has access to.

[DemiGod.PBm]

I think the page where Kakashi is apologizing to him loved ones, is quite telling - note that Sasuke is not in that group.

[Poncho Sama]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

I think the page where Kakashi is apologizing to him loved ones, is quite telling - note that Sasuke is not in that group.

Note that Sasuke IS in that group. Pay attention.

[DemiGod.PBm]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

Note that Sasuke IS in that group. Pay attention.

Damn that Sasuke, using the dialogue for concealment no jutsu - although the fan was somewhat of a give away. Thanks Poncho

[ACCUNE]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

You know what's interesting. Naruto can have one KB in sage mode. One KB in Kyuubi mode. One KB in regular mode and a couple KB doing FRS. I want to see that.

That would be wild the enemy would be overwhelmed and he has the chakra to do it.

[Lord Namvel]

kishi can do whatever he wants, it's his manga, he'll kill off anybody he wants, he could careless what's logical, he's rich, naruto isn't going anywhere irregardless of how this turns out, so deal with peeps. i hate it myself, but what can ya do?

[Lord_Sasori]

Sometimes killing off a good character adds to the story. If Pein is to be taking seriously, he needs to kill off a character who is actually worth something. Killing off a bunch of filler secondary characters with no story is quite lame.

However I am still holding on to Kakashi and the Rinnegan. It would be crazy if Pein took Kakashi's body when he escapes Konoha lolol.

I cant help but remember Kishi describing Kakashi's major event as dark blue and the rinnegan being dark blue as well.

[yo mama]

i know this is a lil off subject... just a thought. dont know if anyone else brought this up. is it possible for Tobi to be Obito? they both missing the same eye. tobi knows the 4th jutsus... obito was the 4th apprentice. the names look too similure too. move a T and take out an O...