Naruto's second Element?

[Poncho Sama]

Originally Posted by penguinism

Naruto 315 page 13 | One Manga

yamato: most peoples naturally leans toward 1 element

Naruto 316 page 05 | One Manga

kakashi states most jounin have 2 elements, kakashi states he can use 3

Key word is most. I would venture to say that Sasuke has two. Fire because he is an uchiha and lightening. That is fact.

[fuoff209]

Yes the wood element iz a combination of earth and water not a seperate affinity. Also i know i'm kind of late on the thread but let me say itz a good one. I hope naruto learnz earth or water. Or even both since there iz a possibility of learning 3. Also didn't the third use 3 against the fight with orochimaru, or waz it just fire and earth?

[penguinism]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

Key word is most. I would venture to say that Sasuke has two. Fire because he is an uchiha and lightening. That is fact.

hows that a fact? because u said so? lol

by MOST, my guess is some people dont seem to have elements...who? here are some examples: shino's family, hyuuga family, ino's family, choujo's family, etc

they use clan jutsu which seem to be more like ying/yang chakra, rather than element chakra

[Poncho Sama]

Originally Posted by penguinism

hows that a fact? because u said so? lol

by MOST, my guess is some people dont seem to have elements...who? here are some examples: shino's family, hyuuga family, ino's family, choujo's family, etc

they use clan jutsu which seem to be more like ying/yang chakra, rather than element chakra

What the hell are you talking about. I said Sasuke has two. Fire and lightening which proves you can have more than one affinity.

I never said anything about yin and yang or any of the other clans you mentioned. This argument is over.

[gamblerguy2005]

Originally Posted by fuoff209

Yes the wood element iz a combination of earth and water not a seperate affinity. Also i know i'm kind of late on the thread but let me say itz a good one. I hope naruto learnz earth or water. Or even both since there iz a possibility of learning 3. Also didn't the third use 3 against the fight with orochimaru, or waz it just fire and earth?

Right there.

[sikwidit]

Originally Posted by penguinism

hows that a fact? because u said so? lol

by MOST, my guess is some people dont seem to have elements...who? here are some examples: shino's family, hyuuga family, ino's family, choujo's family, etc

they use clan jutsu which seem to be more like ying/yang chakra, rather than element chakra

yeah they do. its just that they dont have a use for an element. their clan jutsus is what they use and an element is not needed so they just dont use it.
i thought sasuke had an affinity for both lightning and fire. he was a uchiha and uchiha's have an affinity for fire but when sasuke took the card test it was lightning. so my guess is that sasuke has an normal affinity for lightning but because of his uchiha blood and the sharingan he also has a affinity for fire.

[penguinism]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

What the hell are you talking about. I said Sasuke has two. Fire and lightening which proves you can have more than one affinity.

I never said anything about yin and yang or any of the other clans you mentioned. This argument is over.

k ill walk u through it, ur obviously slow on the comprehension

u said sasuke has two, fact...i said "hows that fact? cuz u said so?" implying its NOT fact, its just what u believe, i then went on to say TO ME when yamato said by "most" he was implying those that dont have an "elemental affinity" have a ying/yang affinity...which might include medical ninjutsu, shadow jutsu(like shika uses), etc


understand now? or shall i attempt to explain it in an even more simple way?

[Boogybro]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

What the hell are you talking about. I said Sasuke has two. Fire and lightening which proves you can have more than one affinity.

He was taught lightning by Kakashi lololol

[The stig]

Lol poncho, no one has two affinities other than possibly someone with the rin'negan.

But they can use more than one element by learning it.

Unless you're actually going to say kakashi has 3 affinities, yamato has two and jiraiya has god knows how many, the third has what, 4?

Seriously, pay a little more attention, you're usually better at this than most people.

@Penguinism: Yamato said most jonin have at least two elements, right?

That also implies that not all jonin, regular jonin, have two, or even one. As in hasn't learnt their affinity etc.

[zack_strife]

i always though that a person can have an affinity for more than 1 elemental affinity but that they are stronger in one and can draw upon it easier than the others. I am not saying that a person can have all 5 or 6 but is not limited to just 1.

P.S. I know this is anime filler but Asuma said the same thing to Naruto, who then got exited at the possibility of having latent water chakra as well.

[Victory21]

Originally Posted by The stig

Lol poncho, no one has two affinities other than possibly someone with the rin'negan.

But they can use more than one element by learning it.

Unless you're actually going to say kakashi has 3 affinities, yamato has two and jiraiya has god knows how many, the third has what, 4?

Seriously, pay a little more attention, you're usually better at this than most people.

@Penguinism: Yamato said most jonin have at least two elements, right?

That also implies that not all jonin, regular jonin, have two, or even one. As in hasn't learnt their affinity etc.

lol if you say no one has two affinities, then I must be mistaken. Since I've seen Sasuke used both Raiton and Katon jutsus. I would count that as two affinities or elements. Am I wrong?

From the looks of it most shinobi will unlock one element first and then move on to another. I maybe wrong but I think that most ninja's would mainly have two affinities. Unless you have another release like Yamato's Mokuton or Haku's Hyouton.

[The stig]

lol if you say no one has two affinities, then I must be mistaken. Since I've seen Sasuke used both Raiton and Katon jutsus. I would count that as two affinities or elements. Am I wrong?

This is what we're going on about lol.

Sasuke's NATURAL affinity is KATON, but he was later taught raiton.

He himself, his chakra, leans towards fire naturally, but he can be taught jutsu's in other elements, he just has a somewhat harder time to learn them.

Uh, how else to describe it...

Erm, it's like we are born with arms, 8 fingers and 2 thumbs, we naturally lean to being either right handed or left handed, but we can be taught to use the left hand if we're right handed and vise versa.

Does that help explain it better?

From the looks of it most shinobi will unlock one element first and then move on to another

This is what's implied, but just not that they have the affinity for the second one.

I maybe wrong but I think that most ninja's would mainly have two affinities.

Well judging by the wording in databooks and manga etc. you'd be considered wrong, but i don;t like saying that people are wrong lol.

[marius-sama]

Wow i cant belive theres still so much confusion around Afinitys.

Ill try clear it even more.

Evry ninja has 1 Affinity for an element its the element they lean towards the most.

Yamato is exception as he has 2 affinities that he leans to witch is earth and water, haku had water and wind, but they had this due to KG.
This is what allowed them to make a new element aka Wood or Ice.

Kakashi has only 1 affinity but he has learned to use other elements, as do most that become jounin.

Another way to explain it would probably be something like a rpg game, ur element affinity is the one element u can use 100% for jutsu, However u can learn to use other elements then ur affinity but they probably be at 80% or 60% or so on of strenght compared to the element u have an affinity for.



As for naruto getting another element to use i do belive he will learn to use another, either he will learn anothe element of his own chakra or he will try to learn what affinity Kyubi has ( im sure he also has a affinity ),

Personally i think naruto will learn fire if he goes for kyubies element as that is what i think it has, but we dont know yet.
If he learns to use a element of his own chakra im sure he will learn water or posibly fire.

The one thing that has stuck with me since it got explained in the FRS training is that normal people cant make new element u need a KG to do so, i personally think naruto will defy this by combining his own affinity and kyubis into a new element, the whole statment that only KG can use new eleements like wood/ice makes me think naruto is gona try to make one.

PErsonally id hope he make a Fire/Wind into new element that could stand up to sasukes amaratsu, ofc it's only speculation.

[Poncho Sama]

As I said. Yamato said MOST people lean toward one. Most is not ALL which means that there are people with more than one affinity, i.e Sasuke who has fire and lightening. If you bother to read the whole conversation the conclusion naruto reached is that Sasuke is and I quote "matched with both fire and lightening". As in he has TWO

Kakashi concludes by responding to Naruto saying that while Sasuke has TWO Naruto has a zero because they don't know what direction his chakra leans in.

[penguinism]

Originally Posted by Poncho Sama

Kakashi concludes by responding to Naruto saying that while Sasuke has TWO Naruto has a zero because they don't know what direction his chakra leans in.

no, he concludes by IGNORING NARUTO and continuing with his speech, he never acknowledged sasuke has two, therefore ur whole argument is once again left on one small point, that ITS WHAT YOU BELEIVE AND NOT WHATS FACT

u DO realize that kakashi could make that piece of paper turn into all 3 elements right? beacuse he has control over his elements he can choose which chakra he disperses into the paper and it will turn into that...but considering NO ONE can shoot out multiple elements from the same hand, it would still only show up as one element at a time...even people with KG elements need to use 2 hands to perform their KG cuz they need to put 1 element in each hand

the fact is sasuke has 2 elements, fire is his affinity and lightning is one he learned...he does NOT have 2 affinities...the only person in the manga with more than 1 affinity is nagato and the sage of 6 paths before him

[fuoff209]

I thought that someone can only use jutsu'z with wut element they have an affinity for, and some have more than 1 affinity. Sasuke haz an affinity for fire and lightning. I don't understand what iz so hard to understand. And how are u people saying sasuke doezn't have lightning affinity? Chidori iz lightning, how could he perform it if he doesn't also have lightning affinity also. If thatz the case then he should be able to use all 5 elementz right?

[The stig]

Oh this is just getting stupid.

You have the one affinity.

Just the one.

But you can learn others, just not all 5.

IT's the most simplest of things to understand but you're all making it so difficult and complicated and actually straying off the path of what this damn thread is about.

Naruto's possble second element.

I believe it will be water, but i also have a feeling he could learn three and the third would be fire, or at least, kyuubi has fire and naruto will learn to utilize that.

[sikwidit]

=bigtsunadetitti;3123726]Um, theorizing is just speculation in writing and...anyone can do that. Using your own theories to speculate...thats just going in circles.

As for the rest of what you said? ...

i dont think it's a far off theory to think that the kyuubi's chakra might be able to use all five elements easily. If i was talking about a normal ninja's chakra then yeah. I think kishi has been setting the kyuubi from day one to play an important role in naruto's life as a superior shinobi instead of running away from its power or just using when he's in deep shit. I also think thats one of the reasons kishi introduced killa Bee. He wasnt just using him a measuring stick for sasuke but also to show us how stronger naruto could become by becoming one with the Kyuubi.

and dont me

[m2dab]

i re-read some old chapters and im thinking it might be earth because of things like this

Naruto 104 page 17 | One Manga

[Mstevens24]

Originally Posted by KillMe

wind kage bunshin woudl be sweet too - would blow up and slice what ever its next to to hell

but yeah somehow water fits for me but would be kinda convinet - wind counters lighting and water counters fire =)

but fire counters wind and elect counters water does it not?