Light-good or evil

[Bradjune1980]

No ryukk had two books he would have killed the next person that took possesion of the book, like how he killed light at the end. And went about his merry way. That book was not going to go to anyone else. It begins and ends with light. Nuff said.

And your pretty much endorsing and giving a pass on every dictator ship with the comments on harsher punishment.

I do not praise war, but we do no historically that it one of the only tools to overthrow bad government. Stop putting words into my mouth that i never said. And i find it hypocritical your not ok with war yet you are ok with killing criminals and those that might be trying to preserve law and order.

The actions are not the direct result of anyones death. Your not making fair equations of the matter. You cannot hold someone responsible for what MIGHT HAVE HAPPEND. They are not responsible for killing millions at all tehy are in no way shape or form directly responsible. That line of reasoning is insane. By your reasoning we should as the USA be sending our troops out to every warzone to stop them, since our inaction makes us responsible for all those people dying.

You are now just being plain intellectuly dishonest.

And who is Light to be able to judje the value of a person, once you start down that line of thought you can pretty much justify anyones death away. Its pure speculative bull crap, You cannot say that every criminal is going to kill more people. Some honestly reform.

As this goes on your making less and less sense. You contridict yourself in your standpoints fundementally almost every post now.

[Righteous Judgment]

Originally Posted by Bradjune1980

No ryukk had two books he would have killed the next person that took possesion of the book, like how he killed light at the end. And went about his merry way. That book was not going to go to anyone else. It begins and ends with light. Nuff said.

Ryuk had two books one he kept and one light used, Rem had two books one that died with her and the one Misa had. Even if Ryuk killed a successful light who lived onto his twilight years and then took light's book there would still be another book left in the human world without a shinigami attached to it. Light would obviously leave a successor.

And your pretty much endorsing and giving a pass on every dictator ship with the comments on harsher punishment.

My only comment is that harsher punishments don't work if conviction rates don't increase I don't see how that endorses anything

I do not praise war, but we do no historically that it one of the only tools to overthrow bad government. Stop putting words into my mouth that i never said. And i find it hypocritical your not ok with war yet you are ok with killing criminals and those that might be trying to preserve law and order.

countless 100s of thousands of innocent civilian casualties thanks to innumerable invasions/incursions/suicide bombings/blah blah blah far far outweigh any life taken by light.

War also isn't the solution to every problem India gained independence from Britain through peaceful protest.

The riots of angry blacks against a corrupt "Jim Crow" government didn't have any positive impact at all where as the civil rights movement did.

The actions are not the direct result of anyones death. Your not making fair equations of the matter. You cannot hold someone responsible for what MIGHT HAVE HAPPEND. They are not responsible for killing millions at all tehy are in no way shape or form directly responsible. That line of reasoning is insane. By your reasoning we should as the USA be sending our troops out to every warzone to stop them, since our inaction makes us responsible for all those people dying.

You are now just being plain intellectuly dishonest.

Oh come on now. They wanted a return to the status quo of the world before kira right? The way people died senselessly after kira's intervention is exactly the way they died before it, that is the status quo of the pre kira world. The grand majority of those people would not have been the victims of senseless acts of violence had Kira continued

Also Our sending people into every warzone would also result in an increase of deaths upfront while not guaranteeing any kind of peace in every scenario. We also can't spread our forces that thin now who is being "intellectuly dishonest". Honestly if a president for some reason or another gave a pardon to a serial rapist or murder and that person happened to commit more of those crimes upon being released I would hold that president responsible(thank god such a scenario will likely never happen).

So long as your judging someone by their actions as in the ones they commited then yes you can hold them responsible for what might happen if it does indeed happen.

And who is Light to be able to judje the value of a person, once you start down that line of thought you can pretty much justify anyones death away. Its pure speculative bull crap, You cannot say that every criminal is going to kill more people. Some honestly reform.

Some do reform sure but reform is the exception and recidivism rate is so so so much higher.

As this goes on your making less and less sense. You contridict yourself in your standpoints fundementally almost every post now.

I don't see how

[Evil_Ryu]

both i think, his intentions r good but he should leave this business to the police and stuff.

[Syfer Van Hyden]

^Yes that's what the majority of everyone thinks i suppose.

[khoale]

i think light is good

[sharingangal]

what evil said his intentions are good but how he goes about gettin them done is not

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Originally Posted by khoale

i think light is good

can u expand on that? What's the good part of him?

[Sasori da God]

the good part is his goal, if he was actualy real i would support him, actions speak louder than words, the bad i guess would be his lack of mercy

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Originally Posted by Sasori da God

the good part is his goal, if he was actualy real i would support him, actions speak louder than words, the bad i guess would be his lack of mercy

I find that his lack of mercy could be interpreted both ways. I believe that one MUST be AS assertive as he/she is merciful, there must be a balance.

[Jaxx_GR]

Well, I think Light is neither good nor evil. Begins with good intentions, to make a perfect world. In the end, he gets killed while being insane, while killing everyone who was in his path. Didn't like him as a character either.

[Kel]

@ people discussing the death note on earth after the end of the series: Go read the manga. There is an additional chapter that's like 50 pages long after Light's death, it explains everything and for whatever reason was not included in the anime. There will NOT be a successor to light or another death note spinoff.

@Topic: Light is good imo. If I had the Note Book I'd use it for my own gains, and he used it to make a world where people could be safe. It's extremely simple to just obey the law. He wasn't making any randomly idiotic demands, or living lavishly while people suffered in poverty like most dictators do. he was just an average person with a job cleaning up the scum on the world's boot. I praise him.

[dionys]

he was doing well till his power went to his head.

[Keerua]

Light was a hero in my book, untill he killed L and smiled when doing it, at that moment he could just fuck himself, fucking twat.

[NO_body]

light is evil i mean come on he'll kill anyone he killed his own father that's enough for me to say he's evil all the talk about riding the world of evil was bullshit maybe at first but then at was all about him getting power and being a god

[Madara.Uchiha]

Kira/Light was doing the right thing. He only killed criminals until the latter bits of the series anyways.

Originally Posted by dionys

he was doing well till his power went to his head.

Yup. quoted from truth.

Originally Posted by Keerua

Light was a hero in my book, untill he killed L and smiled when doing it, at that moment he could just fuck himself, fucking twat.

Yup. that part in the anime made me think along of those lines.

[thefig2010]

Light is....ummm how u say..........Bipolar ^_^ ok..........sometimes he's nice and stuff......then on the drop of a hat he turns into this evil sadistic manipulating monster that only looks out for himself.........He thinks what he's doing is good and for the sake of Humanity...but its for himself cause he wants 2 be god of the new world and he would kill anyone who got in his way....

[Chéke]

I don't think you can choose. Light was good to begin with but by purchasing the good new world he had to do so many bad things that he became bad. Like 2face (harvey dent) said: Die like a hero or live long enough to see yourself becoming the villain

[Ninjastink]

Light started out good, but definitely became evil IMO. He was totally twisted for the majority of the series...

[Righteous Judgment]

Originally Posted by NO_body

light is evil i mean come on he'll kill anyone he killed his own father that's enough for me to say he's evil all the talk about riding the world of evil was bullshit maybe at first but then at was all about him getting power and being a god

People keep mentioning that he got corrupt over time but that is inaccurate he is one of the most consistent Shonen protagonists ever
-He never killed his father(Mello's Gang is responsible for that)
-He needed clout to attain his goals(Obviously this means power political/influential)
-He stated his intent to be "Shin Sekai No Kami Da" (God of the New World) in the very first episode

If you think he's evil at the end then you should think he was evil at the beginning and vice versa

[loic8855]

hes good... creating an utopia free of evil is good (i think)