Bleach Manga Chapter 336 Discussion

[IonRom]

remcqueen read the manga thread for the answers you seek, plus there other theories on the threads in this section. I think that this chapter marks the turning point in the battle: good guys will start to lose after this chapter.

[Marlie]

Originally Posted by Digital Masta

Until he gets over his AIDS attack...catches her fist when she thinks she's about to land the finishing blow and kicks her ass.


Also...Stark could have an emotional attachment to her, which is why he selected her as his fraccion, not neccesarily because she's strong.

I mean her comments and reactions were not from someone who was goofing off. She was like, "Uhh...no way."

Could be. Maybe she was being bullied and Stark took her in a Fraccion or maybe he knew her before the became Arrancar. I hope they have some kinda deep history...like the Kenpachi and Yachiru of the Espada.

[Dussan]

Originally Posted by remcqueen

I usually don't comment on bleach but I am confused. This is not a bash but a legitmate question. Where is this leading too? I know there is a twist coming soon but I can't see it or wrap my head around where this could end up. Usually in bleach once you get well into the arc things start to fall into place and you have serveral options of where kubo is going and the fun was seeing how close you get, But I haven't a clue where he is going with this ichigo the main char we haven't seen in how many weeks? I haven't given up just want some direction. help!!

This is standard shonen manga tournament stuff. I think it's done to establish who is at what level ofthe "food" chain.

THe main plot will not be revealed until Aizen or one of his leautenants step in to the mix and start monologuing.

My guess when Aizen steps out it will shift to Ichigo. Unfortunately Kubo has gone back to his original pace, with fights being multi-tiered and drawn out.

[The stig]

So matsumoto is dying...?

I say orihime is going to turn up or the vizards and she going to be saved lol.

[Rurouni272000]

She will be saved by Hinamori's Kidou while Kira and Hisagi take on Allon... altho I'm really hoping that they get pwned too.

[remcqueen]

Thanks Dussan and IonRom, I'll look around in this thread and see if things start to make since. But this tournament fighting is nothing like HM it's more of a mish mash of some people winning and others losing with no logical link as to why they got beat. I think you are right tho Dussan once aizen starts to get involved it will definitely get a lot clearer as to what this interim fighting was all about. Again thanks for your replies.

[Rurouni272000]

Once again, I am losing respect for Ukitake...

He should just pwn (or ignore) Lilinette and go destroy Halibel's fraccion. I'm sure he could do it within a minute if he released, and if he has any faith in Shunsui that is what he should be doing right now, NOT playing around with someone that he can't even fight.

[Marlie]

I'm not. If you know anything about the guy you know he's a good natured guy that does'nt like to fight. Ukitake does'nt crush opponents and just move on. He's not Soi or Byakuya or any of those other guys. Once you've earned enough stripes as him you can afford to be like that.

[Dussan]

Originally Posted by Rurouni272000

Once again, I am losing respect for Ukitake...

He should just pwn (or ignore) Lilinette and go destroy Halibel's fraccion. I'm sure he could do it within a minute if he released, and if he has any faith in Shunsui that is what he should be doing right now, NOT playing around with someone that he can't even fight.

Why lose respect, he is just trying to be cool. Also thanks to Ichigo we know that anything that doesn't necessarily come from Soul Society is evil. The little kid may turn out to be an ally later on down the road.

[Marlie]

I doubt it about the allies part...but some part of me wants to believe that some of the Arrancar once abandoned by Aizen would actually try to stay someone what neutral in this war. They're split into different factions with different agendas. Once Aizen abandons them what else can they do. There might be some that may try to attack SS or follow Aizen and there may be some that defect and stay behind and make a new life now that they're human again. I'm still wondering what the fuck is gonna happen with Grimmjow.

[Delpheous2089]

Originally Posted by Marlie

I doubt it about the allies part...but some part of me wants to believe that some of the Arrancar once abandoned by Aizen would actually try to stay someone what neutral in this war. They're split into different factions with different agendas. Once Aizen abandons them what else can they do. There might be some that may try to attack SS or follow Aizen and there may be some that defect and stay behind and make a new life now that they're human again. I'm still wondering what the fuck is gonna happen with Grimmjow.

Grimm is at the top of my list to help Ichigo fight Uliq. He hates him, and that whole thing with Uliq always stealing his "prey" or whatever seemed to go fairly deep. They've probably fought before, hence why Grimm could trap him in the first place.


I doubt he helps SS though, he'll probably just end up a neutral character, or dead. Probably dead. He's tapped out unless Kubo does give him some direct connections to some unknown faction of characters we've yet to see revealed.

[Rurouni272000]

Whatever, he doesn't need to put the beatdown on Lilinette, he could just ignore her or w/e. But because of his attitude he is allowing Hinamori and Matsumoto to die, and putting two VCs that have already fought once against 3 released Fraccion and a creature more powerful than all of them. That's BS.

People got mad at Ikkaku for not fighting to his full power against Po, but nobody is biffed at Ukitake? Those are some skewed standards I see there.

[Dussan]

Originally Posted by Rurouni272000

Whatever, he doesn't need to put the beatdown on Lilinette, he could just ignore her or w/e. But because of his attitude he is allowing Hinamori and Matsumoto to die, and putting two VCs that have already fought once against 3 released Fraccion and a creature more powerful than all of them. That's BS.

People got mad at Ikkaku for not fighting to his full power against Po, but nobody is biffed at Ukitake? Those are some skewed standards I see there.

This is Kubo's style. He cant deviate from Dragonball established shonen formula. If he does it causes his brain to hurt I imagine.

ALso you really can't expect him to turn his back on the little kid. And its' also a Japanese thing about getting serious with those that are beneath you. He unleash the ultra beatdown on some little kid, I think overkill goes against his nature.

Either way his actions fit with his character. SO I am not disappointed in what I see from him, nor surprised. I'm assumingin the next chapter or two, the kid will do some "I"m serious now" power up and make Ukitake take her serious, and then he says something about how it's about time she got serious.

Now what would be really cool and something new and fresh Kubo could do. Is have the kid slit her own throat in frustration and the suicide would crush Ukitake's spirit making him incapable of fighting. Little bit of Shouju emo stuff to give this little fight a bit of substance.

[XandorXerxes]

Originally Posted by Rurouni272000

Whatever, he doesn't need to put the beatdown on Lilinette, he could just ignore her or w/e. But because of his attitude he is allowing Hinamori and Matsumoto to die, and putting two VCs that have already fought once against 3 released Fraccion and a creature more powerful than all of them. That's BS.

People got mad at Ikkaku for not fighting to his full power against Po, but nobody is biffed at Ukitake? Those are some skewed standards I see there.

I agree. There's no excuse for anyone to be sitting out, no matter how "cool" they are. If Kubo wants to portray this as a war, then the only reason to sit out is to find the opportune time to strike. If Stark / Shinsui wanted to sit out and drink tea together because they're lazy, that's one thing. They're "checking" each other. But especially if Lilinette is a nothing, Ukitake needs to be saving Matsumoto and the VCs instead of telling small children Arrancar to be going home. Let one of the VCs do that, it's the only reason to bring them to the battle in the first place.

[Nicho Kiennes]

Is it me or does it look like Ukitake is sitting on one of the pillars that the shinigami are protecting. If so then that might simply be the reason, he's not sitting out he is protecting the pillar whilst Kira and 69 go help Matsumoto, after all who is looking after their pillars?

[XandorXerxes]

Originally Posted by Nicho Kiennes

Is it me or does it look like Ukitake is sitting on one of the pillars that the shinigami are protecting. If so then that might simply be the reason, he's not sitting out he is protecting the pillar whilst Kira and 69 go help Matsumoto, after all who is looking after their pillars?

A good hypothesis, and I'd be accepting of that if it were true. Unfortunately he's just sitting on top of a building:
Bleach 335 page 11 | One Manga

You do bring up a good point though - who is guarding the pillars now?

[Azn]

I was under the impression that all of the fraccions are in conflict now, so unless the shinigamis lose, the hollows will be busy fighting. So even though the pillars might not be protected, its still far from harm

[Marlie]

You'd have to assume Komamura's protecting them now. There are no spare forces on the Espada side to attack them.

[Digital Masta]

Komamura is probably specifically protecting the broken pillar as that would be the most delicate spot.

And why the hell does Linette have two hollow holes? Or maybe her eye is just missing.

[Delpheous2089]

Originally Posted by XandorXerxes

I agree. There's no excuse for anyone to be sitting out, no matter how "cool" they are. If Kubo wants to portray this as a war, then the only reason to sit out is to find the opportune time to strike. If Stark / Shinsui wanted to sit out and drink tea together because they're lazy, that's one thing. They're "checking" each other. But especially if Lilinette is a nothing, Ukitake needs to be saving Matsumoto and the VCs instead of telling small children Arrancar to be going home. Let one of the VCs do that, it's the only reason to bring them to the battle in the first place.

I'm thinking there's more to Ukitake watching Linett then we realize.


For one point...Everyone is fighting in totally different areas, and apparently they're doing so far enough away from each other, that they can't physically see what's going on.

And as for Linette, he apparently just realized she IS in fact weak...which means he's probably about to put her down right now anyway. She attacked him, not the other way around. I'm sure he was sitting down, watching the other fight, waiting to see if she would actually do anything...but then she didn't so...now he has to fight.

I think it's best to wait till this next chapter, or when he pops up again to figure out how exactly he's going to deal with her. My guess is some sort of barrier Demon Art...but then again, I think Linette is more powerful then he's giving her credit for.