Multiverse

[Keerua]

If there is a universe for every possible outcome it is possible to win the lottery 1000 times in a row, now does the idea of multiverse mean that the universe for that possibility has no choice but to act out the event? It is illogical for a lottery to keep handing out $$ to the same person 1000 times.

There is also a possiblity that I will live for ever, but that does not include choice in any way while dishing out $$ for lottery does.

[Rεı]

enjoy your mindfucks

[Ravi]

Your thinking is too constricted.

I could make up ∞ ways to be able to recieve money from the lottery ∞ times.
That is, if I were one of the ∞ me's which would coincidentally be able to do that.

[Keerua]

Yes but your explanation has nothing to do with the original possible outcomes of me buying lottery tickets, there is a Ravi that can think infinite ways of doing something infinitely but that ravi is not an outcome of the 10000 lottery outcomes.


Let me rephrase my question


I buy a lottery ticket each day for 10000 days. Now there are two outcomes to this

a) I win 10000 times in a row
b) Every other outcome

a) is obviously very unlikely but in the multiverse theory that doesn't matter, however unlikely there is a universe where that event takes place.

Nothing else added to that scenario and nothing else substracted. Given this scenario it is impossible for a lottery to give me 1000 000 million $ over 28 years.

So:

Either multiverse = hoax/impossible
or

a multiverse forces other outcomes to make a certain outcome possible in which case this is a bigger mindfuck than the multiverse for each outcome theory as I can't even fucking imagine the infinite series of shit this would lead to for EACH shit.

I am not a fan of the second explanation as it doesn't have anything to do with the outcome of me buying lottery tickets 10000 times.

[Ravi]

Originally Posted by Keerua

I buy a lottery ticket each day for 10000 days. Now there are two outcomes to this

a) I win 10000 times in a row
b) Every other outcome

a) is obviously very unlikely but in the multiverse theory that doesn't matter, however unlikely there is a universe where that event takes place.

Nothing else added to that scenario and nothing else substracted. Given this scenario it is impossible for a lottery to give me 1000 000 million $ over 28 years.

So:

Either multiverse = hoax/impossible
or

a multiverse forces other outcomes to make a certain outcome possible in which case this is a bigger mindfuck than the multiverse for each outcome theory as I can't even fucking imagine the infinite series of shit this would lead to for EACH shit.

I am not a fan of the second explanation as it doesn't have anything to do with the outcome of me buying lottery tickets 10000 times.

In essence, the chance of any of your named 'other outcomes' are individually the same as the option A. Atleast, when you conform to the multiverse theory.

You conclusion from that is false, (I underlined it) inside the multiverse theory they say it's entirely sure that described universe exists'.
When given an ∞ amount of possabilites, there will be ∞ universes that conform to A, ∞ universes to conform with anything you feel like saying. However, nobody ever seems to use physics in this equation, in that case, there's be an ∞ amount of possabilities as long as they go by the common rules of physics. Which is kinda weird, if you ask me =/

So, multiverse = theory / thought experiment and we really can't tell anything about what's really the truth =/

Keep in mind that it has nothing to do with causality and chance, I tend to look at it as some kind of multiplier...

But hey, I don't know shit XD

[Keerua]

You conclusion from that is false, (I underlined it) inside the multiverse theory they say it's entirely sure that described universe exists'.

What I meant to say is that there is no link between the likeliness (is this a word?) of an event and a universe existing with that event.

I don't think I can phrase the problem any better, what I am trying to say is that if an alternate universe exists (even as theory or thought experiment it can be disproved if its foundation is illogical) for every outcome of an event and an outcome of me playing the lottery is that I win every day for 50 years.

That is a POSSIBLE outcome by chance but IMPOSSIBLE because it involes someone conciously giving you alot of money every day for 50 years without either running out of money (thus giving you money for 49 years and not 50 years)

So does the alternate universe change the laws of logic and make the lottery game something it is not? By making the lottery business keep giving you money although they are on the losing end every day for x years? And by making the lottery business never run out of money?

Or is there no alternate universe for this outcome because it is "impossible" (a lottery business has finite money and will bankrupt) in our own universe thus making the outcome impossible and just improbable?

If no on 1: Then the alternate universe for that outcome cannot exist.
If no on 2: Then humans can actually render an outcome impossible?



I realise it is a theory, I got nothing better to do on the train from/to school lol and sometimes remnants of wikipedia articles haunt me and fuck my mind and it is fun to discuss.


And for the record, I don't know shit either XD

[Ravi]

What if the dude giving out the rewards is a retard?
What if you happen to suck his cock for 1000 times and he gives you the money then?
What if there's a flink at the bank company and the lottery business remains to have 100 mil to the end of times? (Maybe they'll print more money for you)

The possabilites are not limited to the simple chance concerned with winning the lottery.

What if I convince the man to give the money to me? What if he is struck by instant retardation?!
There's an infinite arroy of retarded occurences which could grant me another 1000 x mill.

But yeah, like you, I wonder if said universes are bound by rules of physics.
The improbable is entirely possible (in this theory it extends to be a certainty), but is the impossible happening of me defeating gravity and gaining the ability to fly also among the abilities?

I'm getting bored. I need a drink >_>

[WaveMaster]

I'm posting from work LOOZLZOLZLZ

[Ericgamer1]

Probablity and statistics are two different things.

[SHADENINJA]

Whats really gonna get you later is when you consider that in some dimensions there is a multiverse, and in others there is not

simultaneously

[Mika-kun]

This doesn't answer the Since beggining of time kestion...

Do you liek Mudkipz?

[WaveMaster]

Originally Posted by Mika-kun

This doesn't answer the Since beggining of time kestion...

Do you liek Mudkipz?

Old meme is old.

[LONGTIME]

Hmmm, I am sure probability would come into play in these universes.

And just because something can happen that doesn't mean it will.

[Keerua]

Originally Posted by LONGTIME

Hmmm, I am sure probability would come into play in these universes.

And just because something can happen that doesn't mean it will.

Yeah that is the part that confuses me the most.

[SHADENINJA]

It doesn't matter anyway

after the Anti-Monitor was destroyed, there is no Multiverse

[4thseal]

To answer your question, Keerua, yes.

[LONGTIME]

Imagine how many different combinations of things there are.

And then forget the vanity of being human. Would all the plants and animals not get a changed world for their own endeavors? Of course you could have many multiple deviations running at once but that is still way too many.

[Mika-kun]

Originally Posted by WaveMaster

Old meme is old.

Go play with your barbie dolls Wave.

[4thseal]

Originally Posted by Keerua

Yes but your explanation has nothing to do with the original possible outcomes of me buying lottery tickets, there is a Ravi that can think infinite ways of doing something infinitely but that ravi is not an outcome of the 10000 lottery outcomes.

Logic does not supersede reality. If a person purchased a ticket every week or whatever a thousand times then the possibility exist that each time they could win, so the possibility exists that they could win 1000 times in a row.