Ao Kiji vs the Naruto Verse

[LunarWolfX]

Originally Posted by Digital Masta

That's like saying, characters would lose to the Bleach characters because they won't be able to see them or interact with them.

Or that if you since the Speed Force only exist in the DC Universe that should you have a battle where the Flash faces against a non-DC character that the Flash would be powerless but his power source only exist in his universe.

Basic rule of the Battle Thread is that the characters can be affected by things that may only be specific to a certain universe.

One Piece doesn't use "chakra" however in this battle for the sake of the battle they would be affected by things like this, unless their abilities say otherwise, meaning in the case of genjutsu they have the ability to fight off illusions.

This is exactly what I meant by "misunderstanding". Tony cleared it up though, so his post should cover this. To reiterate my post, he doesn't have a chakra circulatory in his logia state, not that he doesn't have chakra at all.

Keep in mind he's freezing SALT WATER... You know, the kind that doesn't even freeze completely at the poles?


i cant help but pick this one apart, i remember in your other lame thread made for your amusement i pulled up the fact that theyre lightning bolts 5 times stronger then what your man crush can produce and you went on to say it doesnt matter the feat of his 200million volt is better... just thought it was funny you used that . continue on with this nonsense.

quit your crying already geeze, and that wasn't even Tony's thread.

[IppoSama]

deleted post ftw. Lunarx long story short you cant reject a logic when it doesnt suit your argument then adopt it when it does. If you wish to call that crying then so be it im crying all the way home.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by IppoSama

Keep in mind he's freezing SALT WATER... You know, the kind that doesn't even freeze completely at the poles?

i cant help but pick this one apart, i remember in your other lame thread made for your amusement i pulled up the fact that theyre lightning bolts 5 times stronger then what your man crush can produce and you went on to say it doesnt matter the feat of his 200million volt is better... just thought it was funny you used that . continue on with this nonsense.

How the hell are those examples similar? One is using the name of an attack to denounce an attack's power, despite the fact the attack has SHOWN much more power than a normal lightning bolt.

The other is a feat in which we are shown that Aokiji freezes miles of salt water for weeks on end. Salt water is (MUCH) harder to freeze than fresh water.

All you've done is make yourself look like a retard.

And what the hell is with all the Logia vs. Narutoverse threads? The original one was a practical joke on the retards on this forum, while this one was more of a fair match. ACE? Why him? Is it the new habit? I actually think Ace could win easier than Aokiji (Due to his firefist and power, not to mention he easily burns down Konoha), but it's still getting old.

[IppoSama]

Originally Posted by C. Hook

How the hell are those examples similar? One is using the name of an attack to denounce an attack's power, despite the fact the attack has SHOWN much more power than a normal lightning bolt.

The other is a feat in which we are shown that Aokiji freezes miles of salt water for weeks on end. Salt water is (MUCH) harder to freeze than fresh water.

All you've done is make yourself look like a retard.

And what the hell is with all the Logia vs. Narutoverse threads? The original one was a practical joke on the retards on this forum, while this one was more of a fair match. ACE? Why him? Is it the new habit? I actually think Ace could win easier than Aokiji (Due to his firefist and power, not to mention he easily burns down Konoha), but it's still getting old.

Enel has a maximum power of 200 million volts. correct? I said in nature (IRL holy crap) theyre are lightning bolts which produce 1 Billion volts. You proceeded to say it doesnt matter because hes shown feats stronger then a regular lightning bolt... Does that makes sense when there are lightning bolts 5 times stronger then his maximum? How does pointing that out make me a retard? Moving the next comparison was Ao kiji freezing salt water ( feat mixed in with rl (unless they use that as an example in OP "omgz hes freezing salt water" in which case thats fine) but if not i was pointing out that you rejected one fact then used another on the same basis. If you dont want to believe fine, ill keep to retarded self while you look like a dumbass for taking pieces of arguments here and there.

Btw all 3 logia win, especially if they dont tire from using their ablities.

[LunarWolfX]

Originally Posted by IppoSama

deleted post ftw. Lunarx long story short you cant reject a logic when it doesnt suit your argument then adopt it when it does. If you wish to call that crying then so be it im crying all the way home.

Like I said in the pm, it's not "pointing out", that part is okay, but add the whining, and bitching/flame is totally uncalled for. I accept you representing an opinion, but not when you start shit.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by IppoSama

Enel has a maximum power of 200 million volts. correct?

His shown feats disagree. Shown feats>Dialogue.

Originally Posted by IppoSama

How does pointing that out make me a retard?

Because Enel HAD to be using a lot more than 1 billion volts to destroy that city block with one lightning bolt (And it wasn't even his most powerful).

Originally Posted by IppoSama

Moving the next comparison was Ao kiji freezing salt water ( feat mixed in with rl (unless they use that as an example in OP "omgz hes freezing salt water" in which case thats fine) but if not i was pointing out that you rejected one fact then used another on the same basis. If you dont want to believe fine, ill keep to retarded self while you look like a dumbass for taking pieces of arguments here and there.

Because you're using an attack name instead of the actual feat of the attack. Tell me, have you seen a normal lightning bolt blow up an entire city block? No, it's not powerful enough. Therefore, Enel's lightning bolts are stronger than normal lightning bolts. There's no debate about it. Shown feats always trump character dialogue, as Kuma (Who claims to fire projectiles at the speed of light, yet the projectiles were dodged by Zoro after they were shot) shows.

Originally Posted by IppoSama

Btw all 3 logia win, especially if they dont tire from using their ablities.

Logia never run out, but they can tire physically in the same way a normal human does after much fighting. And I disagree about Ace winning, this actually seems pretty equal.

By the way, sorry I called you a retard, I was pretty angry at the time.

[vlaaad12345]

Freeze everyone game over,aokiji would speed rape every person in naruto.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by Apoo

Ao Kiji is blood lusted, and so is everyone in the naruto world.

Aokiji bloodlusted means he's constantly in logia form. Game over.

[Alexandrius]

^Which is why its mentally retarded to say that Genjutsu only affects him when he's not in Logia form. And do tell me, when is a Logia not in Logia form? When is Luffy not fucking made of rubber?

It's retarded. Genjutsu fucking mindrapes Ao Kiji either way you look at it, but if you're saying he can't be affected it's limiting the Naruto world a ridiculous amount.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by Alexandrius

^Which is why its mentally retarded to say that Genjutsu only affects him when he's not in Logia form.

Umm...

It's common sense genjutsu won't affect something without a brain and nervous/chakra system. In Logia form, if Aokiji has a brain, it is something that is completely unlike a normal brain.

Originally Posted by Alexandrius

And do tell me, when is a Logia not in Logia form? When is Luffy not fucking made of rubber?

Are you retarded? Logias are not in logia form several times. Enel is not in logia form when he eats an apple, Crocodile is not in logia form when he drinks wine, and both of them were in normal form when their weaknesses were used.

Luffy has a normal (Albeit rubbery, although it's not actual rubber) brain and nervous system, and is rubberish all the time. Aokiji does not have a brain in logia form and is not required to be in logia form.

Originally Posted by Alexandrius

It's retarded. Genjutsu fucking mindrapes Ao Kiji either way you look at it, but if you're saying he can't be affected it's limiting the Naruto world a ridiculous amount.

So how is Aokiji going to be fucked up by Genjutsu when he EDIT: What I just typed was pretty stupid, and I'm sorry about it. However, as we've told you numerous times, Aokiji has no noticeable brain in logia form.

Oh, and it's not limiting the Narutoverse at all. Saying Genjutsu should affect Aokiji just because it's more fair is like saying it should also affect Galactus because it's more fair. It's an attempt to handicap one side because you hate losing.

[Luffy]

Originally Posted by Alexandrius

^Which is why its mentally retarded to say that Genjutsu only affects him when he's not in Logia form. And do tell me, when is a Logia not in Logia form? When is Luffy not fucking made of rubber?

It's retarded. Genjutsu fucking mindrapes Ao Kiji either way you look at it, but if you're saying he can't be affected it's limiting the Naruto world a ridiculous amount.

You're just a casual OP fan, no wonder you don't keep up with facts.

Paramecia's like luffy are always in the state of their DF, luffy is always rubber, daz bones in always metal. Logia's 'turn on and off' their powers, and are not always their elements.

Genjutus does nothing to Akoji when he's in his element state. It has been brought up many times the fact that genjutsu works by targeting the brain. I don't know how else to explain the simple fact that if you don't have a brain, something that targets the brain is not going to work on you...there's really only so many ways of saying the same thing.

[San Goku]

lol @ Goku, fuckin retard, anyway if you have a concious in logia form and can think, your probably suceptable to genjutsu, although chances of getting caught in one are less, since its better for direct eye contact, well thats for sharingan. But there is more then one way other then eyes to be caught in genjutsu, it can also be sound or touch as well.

[wanaa]

So you are saying because he is made of ice means he has no brain? Where does it say he doesn't have a brain? Cause we can't see it? How else can he control himself without a brain?

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by wanaa

So you are saying because he is made of ice means he has no brain? Where does it say he doesn't have a brain? Cause we can't see it? How else can he control himself without a brain?

All Logias have no brains when in Logia mode, like when enel got stabbed through the head or when Aokiji got reduced to ice shards and still lived.

[wanaa]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

All Logias have no brains when in Logia mode, like when enel got stabbed through the head or when Aokiji got reduced to ice shards and still lived.

It never says they have no brain.....simply put its not nearly explained enough and you can't make up your own thoeries, and state them as fact. Though it is weird Enel's lightning revived him when he was obviously dead so maybe it can act on its own but who knows!!

[GiantMidget]

A spear went through his head and he yawned, Im pretty sure thats not what a guy with no brain does.

[San Goku]

A human can not think without a brain, and I assume he's human, so he has a brain. Its just that his powers enables him to avoid almost all physical attacks.

[GiantMidget]

Are you trying to make sense of their powers? Especially in OP where they are rubber humans and people who turn into animals?

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by San Goku

A human can not think without a brain, and I assume he's human, so he has a brain. Its just that his powers enables him to avoid almost all physical attacks.

Logias can turn into the pure form (READ: Non-humanoid form) of their element and retain their consciousness. Do you want to argue they have a brain in that state too? I see no reason to assume that they would have a brain when they clearly don't mind getting stabbed in the head in Logia form.

Also, a brain made out of ice is not a brain, because it doesn't have cells and therefore cannot be used to think. I win.

[Luffy]

Originally Posted by wanaa

It never says they have no brain.....simply put its not nearly explained enough and you can't make up your own thoeries, and state them as fact. Though it is weird Enel's lightning revived him when he was obviously dead so maybe it can act on its own but who knows!!

It does not have to be said we've seen it. How do you stick a spear into a guy's head and it goes out the other end and that guy has a brain?