Genei Ryodan vs Akatsuki

[Luffy]

lol, I'm on a roll with my threads here, this should be a fun one.

Please read below for the rules of the fight.

Disclaimer: To make this fight fair, the rules of nen will have to be watered down a bit. Lets make it so that all Ryodan members get to keep their Hatsu and all of the abilities and powers, but that opponents are able to to hurt them even though they don't use nen. All nen techniques are viable, except the unfair ones like IN (ability to conceal anything with nen so non nen users and even most unfocused nen user can't see them) are not allowed and non nen users can see all nen abilities. Other one though like Kou (concentrated nen for physical attacks) and En (spreading one's aura around to sense the presence of anything living) are. In addition, NEN techniques that are work against other nen techniques, also work against Naruto Jutus for fairness. For example, Kuroro's Skill Hunter can steal naruto jutsus if conditions are met.

In addition, speed will have to be equalized since most ryodan members can move at hypersonic speeds.

The Fight:

A big, non-inhabited Island, full of vegetation, beaches, rivers, mountains, and caves with a 150 mile radius. Both teams start at opposite ends. All current and former Ryodan members present, including dead ones like Uvogin. The same goes for the Akatsuki, all current and former members available, and healthy. Both teams are bloodlusted and anything goes, including teaming up, and detailed strategies and such. The leader of the Ryodan is Kuroro, while the leader of Akatsuki is Pain. Characters follow the orders of the team leader. NO MADARA!!!

Characters are in character, so if your strategy involves teaming up characters that don't like each other much and having them split from the team, that will be a disadvantage. For example, Sasori and Orochimaru would not make a good team, unless other characters are present to to keep them in check. Hidan and Kakuzu would make an ideal team.

The Akatsuki team

Sasori
Has 100 puppets, Hirako, and Sandaime

Deidara
Has the same amount of clay he had against Sasuke

Itachi
Is healthy

Kisame

Zetsu
Can only use techniques we've seen him use so far

Kakuzu
Has 5 hearts, can use no water techniques since we never saw him use one

Hidan

Oro
Is healthy, can use his hands and summon manda

Konan

Pain
Has all his bodies, and all of them can use techniques we've seen them use. Only one summon body.

I'm going to give a brief overview of the characters for those than don't know them. All of them are martial art experts, and casually travel at hypersonic speeds (but this has been equalized for this battle) and are very strong physically (Gai strong and above). Some of them have abilities that are not suited for straight-up fighting, but are more useful around a careful strategy. It's up to you to decide how you think characters will use their abilities. But first, the types of nen:

Reinforcement- people of this type usually have abilities that enhance their own physical power,defense, speed, accuracy, mental capabilities, etc or that of other objects, as well as the speed and power of their regeneration to injuries.

Transformation-The users of this kind can transform their auras into other things, ie give their aura's properties of already existing things like fire, and lightning or 'combined properties' like Hisoka's bungee gum.

Materialization. These guy can make an object completely out of nen, they can also give these objects different effects. For example, there is someone who can materialize a cape that has the ability to shrink other objects. Materialized objects can be destroyed but the user can just materialize the same object again. Other stricter conditions can apply on a case to case basis.

Manipulation. Users of this type can control other people or objects by using nen.

Emission. These users emit pure nen energy as projectiles, similar to ki blasts.

Specialization. Abilities that differ from the above fall under this type.

All nen users fall into one of these kinds and the abilities they can use are determined by this type. They can use the other types as well, but the power of the techniques they use that fall outside of their main type will be much weaker. For example, a reinforcement user can only use a transformation ability to I believe 60% of its potential.


Here are the member of the ryodan

1) Kuroro Lucifer (specialization type)

Leader of the team. His ability is called Skill Hunter, it allows him to steal other people's abilities and use them as his own, as long as several conditions are met.

Here are the conditions

1. He must witness the ability in action with his eyes.
2. He must ask about the ability and be answered by the victim.
3. His victim's palm must touch the handprint on the cover of Bandit's Secret. (A small book were all his stolen abilities are stored)
4. All of the above must be done within an hour.

To use one of the stolen abilities, he first conjures Bandit's Secret and turns to the page of the wanted ability. While using an ability, Chrollo must turn to the page with the ability on it and the book must remain opened in his right hand. Additionally, an ability vanishes from the book when its former owner dies. As long as he has stolen an ability and it remains in his book, the original user cannot use it.


For this fight, he has the current abilities stolen already


-Teleportation. He can teleport himself or others. The limits of this ability has not been seen yet, however, at the very least he can do so around a 30 meter radius or so, making him incredibly fast when he uses this ability, and it can be used on opponents as well.


-Indoor Fish. A peculiar ability. A conjured fish that can only survive in a completely sealed space. The fish looks like a skeleton and feeds on human flesh. While the person is being fed on, they neither feel pain or lose blood, and will stay conscious despite being mortally wounded. Once the fish disappears, the usual effects of the wounds manifest, often killing the victim.

-Fun Fun Cloth. This cloth is conjured, and can increase and decrease in size according to the user's will. Whatever is covered in the cloth decreases in size until it fits in the palm of a hand. The user can make it go back to its original size by letting it out of the bag. People can also be shrunk this way, without being injured.

And his most potent and dangerous ability

-Lovely Ghost Writer.

An ability stolen from Neon Nostrade. It creates accurate predictions of future events. The user cannot predict their own future. The ability requires:

1. A Person's Full Name (and, only if she sees the person, a photo would also do.)
2. Their Date of Birth
3. Their Blood Type
   

The target person writes the required information on a piece of paper, then hands it to the abilities user, who then calls the "Lovely Ghost Writer", a sort of green monster that attaches to the users arm and moves his pen. The user does not know what he writes, being in a trance-like state.The prophecies take the form of poetry, composed of 4 or 5 quatrains each corresponding to every week of the month. The first stanza is always about something that has already happened.This ability is a huge advantage for the ryodan, allowing Kuroro to predict the future of all his teammates, and give them a huge advantage in battle.

2) Feitan (transformation)

Feitan is cruel bastard that loves to kill. He is the guy in my avatar. His special ability is called Pain Packer, it allows him to turn 'pain' (aka damage) he has received into abilities. The only seen one so far is heat energy. Feitan turns all the damage he has received in battle into a miniature sun, the power of the sun is dependent on the dame he has received, the more damage he receives the more power his ability has. The ability scorches pretty much anything in sight, except for Feitan himself which conjures an armor that makes him immune to his own power. He is also incredibly fast, and proficient with a sword.

3) Hisoka (transformation)

The coolest clown in all of manga. Hisoka's abilities are based on his deceptive nature. His first ability, bungee gum allows him to turn his nen into a mixture of rubber and gum, taking on the sticky qualities of gum, and the durable and stretchable qualities of rubber (but much stronger and stickier of course), essentially creating a new material. If attached to another person, it is virtually indestructible and Hisoka can shrink it or extend it at will. His other ability, deceitful texture allows him to change the texture and outlook of something into something of his choosing, the change is temporary and is only an illusion not a physical change, however it is instrumental to hisoka's strategy of bewildering his opponents. For example, both of Hisoka's arm were cut off in one battle, but he was able to use his ability to make it seem like he re-attached his arms.

4) Machi. (transformation)

Her ability is called Nen Threads. Machi spins her aura into threads in which she uses in a variety of ways, including seaming together dislodged limbs, attaching strands to people in order to track their movement, and as a weapon to bind and cut her opponent. Her threads strength is inversely proportional to the length. The strength of each aura thread is inversely proportional to its length; strands smaller than a millimeter can support up to one-ton in weight. It has been said that she can make enough threads to circle the earth a couple of times over. Like mentioned above, she is also a great healer. Fixing back severed limbs in minutes down to the cellular level with her nen.

5) Uvogin (reinforcement)

The perfect Tank. This guy is all about hand to hand brawling. He is insanely strong. He can tank a bazooka to the head without a scratch, catches bullets with his mouth, and his scream is enough to shatter the eardrums of anyone who is nearby. His ultimate punch 'big bang impact' is strong enough to leave a crater the size of a small meteor on the ground.

6) Shalnark (manipulation)

He is a manipulation user. By putting one of his nen antenna (Black Voice) on someone's body he gains complete control of them. In addition, by putting the antenna on himself (autopilot), he gain incredible physical power but for a limited time.

7) Pakunoda (specialization)

She has the ability to draw the memories of others by physical touch. By making physical contact she can read a person's mind, in addition to all their thoughts and draw them out, even from infancy. She can also send her thoughts into others.

8) Shizuku (materialization)

Her ability is is to materialize a talking vacuum cleaner called deme-chan (that's right...) that can sucks anything in as long as it is not alive. This includes the blood of an opponent if they have any wounds. This is a usual way in which she beats them, by sucking their blood dry from their open wounds.

9) Franklin (Emission)

Franklin is a huge guy with a Frankensteinian appearance. His ability is of the emission type, called dual machine gun. He can shoot nen bullets from his hand at an incredible rate destroying anything that comes on his path. It can wipe out a room of 100 people in seconds.

10) Phinks (Reinforcement)

Phinks is also a brawler type of the reinforcement kind. His ability rypler cyclotron increases the strength of his punches for every spin he gives to his arm. So if he spins full circle his arm 30 times his attack will punch power will be insane, if his spins it 100 times, even stronger, etc.

11) Nobunaga (Reinforcement)

Nobunaga is a samurai. He is of the reinforcement type and any specific ability has yet to be revealed. He is insanely strong and fast, rivaling uvogin but instead of pure power he focuses on finesse. He is very talented samurai, and very proficient at using en.

12) Kortopi (materialization)

Kortopi's main ability is not suited for fighting. it is called Gallery Fake. Kortopi can make a perfect copy of any object (as long as it is non living) for 24 hours. There is no limit to the size of the object, he can even copy things like skyscrapers. In addition, as long as he touches the original object, he can track the movement of any copied object.

13) Bonolenov (Not specified, could be materialization/transformation/specialization)

Bonolenov is a member of a warrior tribe that make holes on their own bodies to produce sounds in battle. His ability 'battle le cantabile' allows him to change specific sound patterns he makes into effects. There have only been two effects seen so far. One effect summons a nen warrior to fight in his stead. Another summons a giant nen object resembling the look of the planet Jupiter to crush his opponents.

14) Kalluto (manipulation)

Her ability is called paper master. She is, you guessed it..able to control paper like Konan to attack. She cannot turn into paper herself like Konan, but she can use it in any way to attack making dragons and other similar manipulated objects out of paper. Her paper of course is much stronger than regular paper since it is reinforced by nen. In addition, she is able to create paper dolls of a person and through the paper she is able to hear anything said by that person and on that person's surrounding.

That's all of them, I hope most of you have read HxH already and have seen the genei ryodan in action, it's kind of hard to just go by my explanations although you can use wiki as well or even better, read HxH since it's awesome

Look forward to hearing your strategies.

[GiantMidget]

Both teams are pretty strong, also kinda hard to decided, gonna take a while to figure all this out, but I'm leaning towards Genei Ryodan.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by Apoo

Characters are in character, so if your strategy involves teaming up characters that don't like each other much and having them split from the team, that will be a disadvantage. For example, Sasori and Orochimaru would not make a good team, unless other characters are present to to keep them in check. Hidan and Kakuzu would make an ideal team.

Methinks you have a problem there.

[Luffy]

? They do like each other. They mostly joke around and stuff, but every time Hidan got hurt Kakuzu fixed him up.

[C. Hook]

Originally Posted by Apoo

? They do like each other. They mostly joke around and stuff, but every time Hidan got hurt Kakuzu fixed him up.

Eh, I always thought they hated each other. They always argue, and Kakuzu only helped Hidan AFTER his head was lopped off. He had the chance to do so before, but didn't, even when Hidan was screaming and calling for help.

Also, Kakuzu always calls Hidan stupid.

Oh well, I like both of them. Hidan's power in awesome, and Kakuzu's is also pretty neat. However, the way Kakuzu died was just...

[Luffy]

I never saw any real contempt between each them, like say what we learned of Oro and Sasori who really wanted to kill each other.

[LunarWolfX]

This doesn't seem like a fair fight given hxh feats. Before they even learned nen, Gon was able to send a guy crashing through a wall with a tiny shove.

Uvogin was shot by tanks, bullets, rockets, and wasn't ever phased by them. He killed a man by yelling very loud, and he killed another man by spitting flesh at him.

The power gap is enormous!

[Luffy]

Physically yeah, but there's bunch of stuff the akatsuki could do to try make this a match. Genjutus, Deidara's bomb's ,Sasori's poisons, etc. I did equalize speed though.

[San Goku]

I see none of them beating Lucifer or Feitan, a healthy Oro makes things interesting, he could summon 4th, 1st and 2nd....but I would still give it to Genei Ryodan. Hisoka would be trouble for most people, I see him facing Sasori a trixter against a puppeteer.

Genjutsu's will do some damage but not much, nen users are physically insanely strong especially everyone from Ryodan, and they're all masters at Gyo, they'll see through it.

Akatsuki has 4-5 immortals, so thats an advantage for Akatsuki

i'm still giving it to Genei Ryodan unless someone can prove otherwise.

Anime watchers should note there can be some spoilers, Tony you should put a disclaimer

[ipodnano]

Originally Posted by Apoo

Physically yeah, but there's bunch of stuff the akatsuki could do to try make this a match. Genjutus, Deidara's bomb's ,Sasori's poisons, etc. I did equalize speed though.

Like none of em can see a small particles of Deidara bomb's?.
Sasori poison wont even hit them..

They can just blow it away.

[Seimron]

I'll be honest... I don't really know the characters that are fighting againts Akatsuki since the only manga I read is Naruto but... if they breathe they die ( Deidara ) if they bleed they die ( Hidan ) If their skin can get peirced they die ( Sasori ) They die if they get seen by Itachi ( Ameratsu ) They die by getting sealed ( Susanoo ) They are mentally scarred by genjutsu/killed by lieing ( Itachi/Hell Pain ) If things get really bad Orochimaru can kill Zetsu and summon someone with his Edo-Tensei like 4th or such. Orochimaru is practically immune to physical hits since he is just a bunch of snakes, if he is hit the enemy is paralyzed. Really, I see no way in hell the enemy can win. Not to mention people like Hidan/Kakuzu/Kisame that have super strength and are immortal and can bring out oceans... Zetsu does some spying and they can't kill Zetsu because he can merge with ground and travel at crazy speeds. Konan can spy too. Not to mention a Pain that can fire missiles.

[Luffy]

There's a lot of stuff there than won't work against the ryodan. Hidan is waaay to slow even if speed is equalized a bit (if speed wasn't equalized then this wouldn't even be a contest since ryodan member are way too fast), and so is is sasori's poison, in addition to the ryodan's defence against those types of attacks. Deidara can't use his big bomb unless he's alone or he kills his own teammates too. Feitan has a chance to take out a couple of them in one shot via his abilities. Remember, if you read my preview of the ryodan, you'd know that Kuroro has a very good tool on his side, the ability to make prophecies of the future that are 100% correct, so that's going to help them out tremendously. In addition, most of them get alone really well which means they'll be able to form really good strategies. Shalnark has a chance to get a couple Akatsuki on his side via his manipulation ability. Franklin can kill off the slower members like sasori and his puppets and Hidan, etc pretty easy with powers. The only big threats would be Itachi, Kisame, and Pain, perhaps also Kakuzu and Oro, but there's just so much the ryodan can do, as well as work together to come up with amazing strategies.

[San Goku]

I just wanted to correct something with what you wrote with Akatsuki Tony. Kakuzu should be able to use water techniques, cause we did see him use one. His water clone, when Kakashi lotus slammed him into the ground. Ijust remembered when I re-watched that episode. Having said that, the outcome is still the same to Akatsuki's lose.

To the post above Tony, Diedara's final move wont much, cause Ryodan have Gyo, and bleeding is not likely either from Hidan....maybe Akatsuki can group together and someone else can get blood for Hidan.

Gyo, Ren, Hatsu, Ten....dammit, its been awhile and I forgot all my nen abilities, but Ryodan posses them all and are masters at them. This whole battle could pretty much be a easy match becasue of Shalnark. He's pretty much a shikamaru of Hunter X Hunter, and HxH has a couple of worthy Shika type of characters. He would figure out ppls abilites in no time.

[ipodnano]

i just want to ask since when Naruto did ever come with Hunter x Hunter powers?.

can naruto even move if these hunter x hunter character release their nen (aura)?.

remember Hisoka just release a little of nen and Gon / Killa couldn't move at all. Killua was strong back then he can even move 10 ton of gate by barehands when he was 12yr old...

Even if all the speed are the same, the power and strength of HxH character is far beyond than naruto series.

[San Goku]

Well remember you can be really strong and have no nen and have a bit of trouble with someone with a bit of nen and way weaker then you. Remember the Killua fight at the celestial towers. His first time fighting someone using nen. Akatsuki are masters at chakra control, Akatsuki has some pretty fast people. I just don't think they're as fast as Ryodan.

[Luffy]

Originally Posted by ipodnano

i just want to ask since when Naruto did ever come with Hunter x Hunter powers?.

can naruto even move if these hunter x hunter character release their nen (aura)?.

remember Hisoka just release a little of nen and Gon / Killa couldn't move at all. Killua was strong back then he can even move 10 ton of gate by barehands when he was 12yr old...

Even if all the speed are the same, the power and strength of HxH character is far beyond than naruto series.

For the purpose of this fight they can. All the unfair advantages they ryodan have with nen are gone for this fight. Read the OP

Originally Posted by San Goku

I just wanted to correct something with what you wrote with Akatsuki Tony. Kakuzu should be able to use water techniques, cause we did see him use one. His water clone, when Kakashi lotus slammed him into the ground. Ijust remembered when I re-watched that episode. Having said that, the outcome is still the same to Akatsuki's lose.

That's filler. He never used that move in the manga.

[San Goku]

Oh really, okay thank you my mistake.

EDIT

Just read the disclaimer, wow you took away En and In Tony, that levels that battlefield a bit, good job.

[Luffy]

Just read the disclaimer, wow you took away En and In Tony, that levels that battlefield a bit, good job.

Read it again lol. They can still use En, I took away in though.

[IonRom]

The rules for using En\Ren\Ten, the specialisations and abilities are quite complicated and then you have combination the user can make for example Hisoka or Lucifer.
The jutsus, abilities of the Naruto universe are much more simpler and the logic behind is more understandable\tangible than the one in HxH universe.
Let' s say we have Hisoka vs Itachi. I picked them because we know the majority of their abilities. Let' s say that Itachi can' t trap effectively him in genjutsu (insta win for him) Hisoka can use Gyo and thus Itachi can only use it as a stun or delaying weapon.
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