Byakuya vs Kenpachi

[ADpowah]

Originally Posted by endomilik

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U know that hollow ichigo is more stronger than vaizard ichigo mode.

Isn't Vaizard mode Ichigo both hollow ichigo and regular ichigo? How could Hollow Ichi be stronger than Vaiszard Ichi?

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by ADpowah

Isn't Vaizard mode Ichigo both hollow ichigo and regular ichigo? How could Hollow Ichi be stronger than Vaiszard Ichi?

no the vaizard is just ichigo using hollow power.

the hollow ichigo have more exp than ichigo and he's skill is much stronger than ichigo in vaizard form.

heck have u seen the hollow he stop getsuga tenshou so easily and also he was able to make byakuya completely worn out with just a single hit.

[Blackghost164]

Originally Posted by ADpowah

Isn't Vaizard mode Ichigo both hollow ichigo and regular ichigo? How could Hollow Ichi be stronger than Vaiszard Ichi?

at this time hollow ichigo is more experianced at using his own power, but we also see that when he goes all hollow he isnt extremely strong either

i think thats the point that soon when ichigo has mastered being a vizard his power will be drastically stronger then hichigo's

[GAARA721]

I Think Byakuya Would Take This One Easily Because Remember Ichigo Beat Him Without Even Being Close To A Bankai. And Ichigo Had To Go Bankai To Even Touch Byakuya. So Byakuya>>>>>>>>>>kenpachi

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Byakuya takes this, though i do know that Kenpachi can take an abundant number of hits, severe ones and still laugh at the enemy. Though Byakuya's speed and accuracy, power too, is not in Kenpachi's league.

[5thKazekage]

I Think Byakuya Win This One Easily Because Ichigo Beat Kempachi Without Even Knowing What A Bankai Was And Ichigo Had To Go To Bankai To Even Get Close To Byakuya! So I Think Byakuya Will Win This One In Matter Of About Ten Minutes Due To Kenpachi's Toughness But It's Nothing Compared To Byakuya's Blade. And O Yea Byakuya Get Even More Severe Cuts Than Kenpachi And Doesnt Even Show Expression To The Least Bit So That Shows That Byakuya Is Tough Too.

[Blackghost164]

i dont like this whole ichigo beat kenpachi without a bankai argument

we know that kenpachi was limiting himself during that fight, we know he's stronger then he was in that fight

he was taking on two captains at once and he didnt even think of it as a warm up

and i have a question, how do we know that kenpachi isnt fast? he enjoys his fights and doesnt like to avoid a battle but if we learned anything from him vs nnoitra its that he will use abilities he doesnt like to win the battle

the man is one of the most feared captains, he took on tousen and komumaru at the same time, he is called a beast, he beat a captain without even a shikai ability theres no way he could do all of this if he wasnt fast

as for the actual fight kenpachi vs byakuya, id say it ends just like ken vs ichigo, both being pushed to their limits and it ends up being a draw

[Dark Society]

Byakuya will win becuase he has bankai and Kenpachi will never have bankai. So Byakuya will obviously win. But Kenpachi still is the best ^.^

[Blackghost164]

^ kenpachi beat tousen who had a bankai

this isnt his first time fighting against someone that has a banaki

[Goraishi]

Originally Posted by Dark Society

Byakuya will win becuase he has bankai and Kenpachi will never have bankai. So Byakuya will obviously win. But Kenpachi still is the best ^.^

Going by the rate of manga, Bleachverse might collapse on itself if he gets bankai due to reaitsu. Also, don't say he 'will never have bankai' until the manga/anime are finished.

[Bonkai Renji]

Byakuya will beat kenny(kenpachi) with high level kidō spells and with his bankai. Byakuya will do that senka flash step and destroy the saketsu chain and the hakusui soul sleep, thus killing kenny.

The fight between ichigo and kenny was even because of kenny didn't know a kidō spell ichigo would of been in trouble.

[Goraishi]

Originally Posted by Bonkai Renji

Byakuya will beat kenny(kenpachi) with high level kidō spells and he bankai. Byakuya will do that senka flash step and destroy the saketsu chain and the hakusui soul sleep, thus killing kenny.

Don't both of those require an original body 'to go back to'? Which IIRC Ichigo is the only one that fits this category.

[Flamberge]

I'd say Byakuya. Shunpo, combined with Senbon Zakura Kageyoshi, is quite deadly I'd assume. And Kenpachi could take it for a while, but I'm sure 1000 blades, slashing you every which way would kill him, if not mortally wound him. So, all in all, Byakuya.

[Rukia Bankai]

Byakuya wins this. Even though Kenpachi can take senbonzakura like nothing, he lacks speed and Byakuya has plot kido that is unbeatable

[Anbukakashi14]

Originally Posted by Aurarian

Like i said it's really hard to pick a winner because we really haven't seen both fight at their true power and not much else than that.

I don't know about that. Byakuya said himself he "only shows annialation to those he has sworn to kill by his own hand." When he was fighting Ichigo. That implies to me he was fighting at full intensity. Where as when Kenpachi was fighting Ichigo, he was holding back for most of the battle. Besides, he drilled the fifth Espada until whats his face released, and his eye patch was still on.
As for Byakuya's advantage of having a Shikia and Bankai, Ken can just scatter the petals with a reiatsu burst, like he did against that light dude from the Bounto arc. Ken has more raw power and reiatsu that Byakuya, ergo, Ken pwns him.

[Bushido Brown]

Originally Posted by Anbukakashi14

As for Byakuya's advantage of having a Shikia and Bankai, Ken can just scatter the petals with a reiatsu burst, like he did against that light dude from the Bounto arc. Ken has more raw power and reiatsu that Byakuya, ergo, Ken pwns him.

Your really gonna bring filler nonsense into this discussion? Really? Know one considers that trash to be relevant.

[Kenpachi Z.]

I would say Kenpachi would win. He beat two captians with ease and only reason he lost to ichigo is becauce he is the main character. Kenpachi would easily beat Byakuya becauce when he is in his shi-kai state he has no defense if he gets up close and kenpachi can take plenty of hits. and if ichigo was not the main character i bet kenpachi could be him Bankai In vaizard form

[C. Hook]

Kenpachi lost to Ichigo, but that was Ichigo at FULL POWER, with all the power of both SHIROSAKI AND ZANGETSU. Bankai speed Ichigo beat Byakuya, Uuber powerful Ichigo beat Kenpachi.

It all comes down to how easily Kenpachi could tag a moving Byakuya. If he manages even one hit, he'll severely maim the bishie and cause him to lose speed.

[Ikkimatsu]

has no one seen the first bleach movie? Kenpachi kept up with one of the faster bad guys easily. Shunpo is nothing for him, he can move a lot quicker on his own and his awesome strength would break Byakuya into pieces. As for Captain Better-Than-You;s shikai or bankai, Zaraki's spiritual pressure would blow those petals to hell. And as for Kenpachi no getting stronger, since entering the Espada Arc, he has actually risen in power while byakuya hasn't changed at all. Why would kenpachi win? because Byakuya depends too much on those flowers of his and not his actual skills.

[bluewingedD]

You're new so I'll be nice.. Movies, are filler, as in not cannon, as in they don't mean shit when being used in an agreement.

And we've already been through and pretty much wrecked completely the other agruements you've made so I'm not going to comment on them again.