Bandana's in the mall

[Jikit]

Originally Posted by The stig

Yes, but people are stupid and have a one track mind lol.

I'm not targeting any spacific person, i'm slimply mean everyone in the entire world lol

Ok, but seriously.

People will see someone dressed in shirts, trousers, shoes, ties etc, all this, nice smart clothes, even smart casual and think "Oh yes, he's nice, pleasent, calm man i coudl walk up to and not get any greef.", but then people who see someone dressed, lets say, like you, especially if they're balck, not my fault, but it's the way people's minds seem to work, they will think "Oh no, a thug, a little gangsta, best stay out of his way or i'll get stabbed or shot or something.".

And it's all due to media, well, not all, but most.

It's like, someone will hear a story once in a while about a someone dressed in a certain way beating someone, and they won't think anything big of it other than he's a complete and utter t***. But when those stories start to become common and with that certain dress sense, people start to associate everyone wearing, lets say a hoody or tracky, with violence, drugs, gangs, crime etc.

And in all honestly, i do the same. I see someone dressed like, what society has dubbed, a scally, i will automatically think the worst of him. If i see someone, (i mean a white guy), with a shaved head to shaved short hair, then i will automatically think that he is a "rough" guy, as a scally, all because of the skin head look, all because of what these paticular looks are now associated with. If you lived around the areas i live in/around, you'd understand.

But, it's not the item of clothing that comits the crime, it's the person the clothing is covering.

I know that, but it doesn't stop the fact i can't help, but feel and think that way when i see people dressed like that.

If i see someone dressed like you, from the description you gave, i simply think, ok, he's clearly into hip hop, mainly because that look you have, is mostly associated with hip hop, i.e. the videos. Tbh, i think it's nice, as long as it isn't to baggy or overly done to stupid lengths.

I actually hate the baggy look lol.

Another example, when people see someone with their fringe over an eye, people think "emo", it's just become a look that actually was never anything to do with what that person is lol.

Thank you, I don't wear overly baggy jeans and if I do I wear a belt with them. I learned in high school thats not cool at all. I'm into the hip hop culture. I like to keep up with those trends and well as various other ones. I try to stay as multi verse in the fashion world as possible. Now that it's over I should have seen it coming because, that's just the world we live in people can't look past the surface. I got so caught up in freedom of speech and expression that I forgot that those things tend to get you looked down upon. Everyone is so damn conservative.

Originally Posted by The stig

Totally different from a bandana, baggy clothes etc type of thug lol. Al capone, Frank lucas, they were gangsters, not gangsta's. There's a difference between, lets say, the crips and bloods and frank lucas and Al Capone.

Oh and the fact gangsta's happen to get things like "thug life" tattooed onto their body doesn't help...

Al capone and frank lucas performed thuggish acts, but they weren't thugs themselves.

I'm trying to say that some of the more dangerous criminal are actually in suits and ties. They fit in with the the majority and from side the put in works in law, politics, media.

[The stig]

Thank you, I don't wear overly baggy jeans and if I do I wear a belt with them. I learned in high school thats not cool at all. I'm into the hip hop culture. I like to keep up with those trends and well as various other ones. I try to stay as multi verse in the fashion world as possible. Now that it's over I should have seen it coming because, that's just the world we live in people can't look past the surface. I got so caught up in freedom of speech and expression that I forgot that those things tend to get you looked down upon. Everyone is so damn conservative.

Exactly.

Freedom of speech and expression means absolutely jack in this day and age lol.

I used to wear all that "G-Unit" baggy stuff, but man, what was i thinking?

Now i just dress, what i consider normal i suppose, just jeans, nice hoody's etc. Just like, stuff you'd get from "pull and bear", not sure if the US has one of those shops lol.

And now, i don't get weird looks, i don't get people walking away from me or looking down on me etc.

Unless i'm walking my dog, some people feel the need to move away from my dog, though i suppose that's just a fear, it doesn't help that when someone gets close i move my hand down to the bottom of the lead by his collar, but if i didn't, he'd make a fuss, which not everyone likes so it's a lose/lose situation really lol.

I would be willing to bet that if i went out in my old black, g-unit hoody with the hood up and the pair of black basketball tracky jordan pants on with my bandana around my neck or something, with the dog "bouncing" my shoulders, i'd be dubbed as a thug lol.

Of course, i'd never dress like that, don't like it lol, only wore my tracky pants and hoody when i was in construction, or when it was raining lol.

I'm trying to say that some of the more dangerous criminal are actually in suits and ties. They fit in with the the majority and from side the put in works in law, politics, media.

Well yes, there's the CIA

J/K.

But you're right in what you say. After all, the triads and yakuza are "ruomoured" to run part of the goverment operations in japan and china lol.

[Jikit]

Ok, we are all dressed very similarly so we will be fashionable and match. We are all wearing Bandana's around our necks. Is everyone in this selection a thug?

Me

Some dude

Kanye I think

Some girl.

[Cane_The9lives]

Gang members generally dont look emo, or have hello kitty shirts on with yello bandana's...i actually see what the guard might have initially thought. I know your not in a gang, but ive seen alot of people(white and black) in gangs that wear simliar attire, almost exactly the way you are wearing it.

Although i have to say you have a very freindly face, i personally wouldnt have stopped yah, but thats me though.

[Jikit]

Originally Posted by Cane_The9lives

Gang members generally dont look emo, or have hello kitty shirts on with yello bandana's...i actually see what the guard might have initially thought. I know your not in a gang, but ive seen alot of people(white and black) in gangs that wear simliar attire, almost exactly the way you are wearing it.

Although i have to say you have a very freindly face, i personally wouldnt have stopped yah, but thats me though.

Can I'm saying that I see those kinds of things around the mall it's alright but when I do it it's not. Because, I fit a certain group. But look I'm not upset that it happened because I knew it would. I'm just saying if a girl in hello kitty shirt or an emo kid can do i why can't i? I mean I've seen people get with the same thing I'm doing and I've never seen a rule saying it's not allowed. People think I'm bitching because, I was asked to take it off. I'm upset because, I was asked to take do something of a rule posted nowhere visible upon entering the mall and I had see others do it. I also had purchased it in the mall.

[krozar]

If you're going to dress thug and if then security guards are going to treat you like a thug... then play the fucking part. Pull a gun on that honkey.

[Kel]

That bandana doesn't suit you, he was obviously the fashion police.

[The stig]

If you're going to dress thug and if then security guards are going to treat you like a thug... then play the fucking part. Pull a gun on that honkey.

But the thing is, he wasn't dressing thug.

There is actually, no such thing as "thug style", you may think there is, but in actual fact, there isn't.

The fact everyone is immediately associated a black guy in hip hop fashion with thugs is very steryotypical and racist.

For the record, i don't wear the bandana anymore, it just hangs up somewhere, come to think of it, i don't know where haha.

I mean, it's like me going "Tony deals in cocaine and is a drug lord", just because he's cuban. Or cane "Cane is always drunk" just because he's irish.

Or "Clay is a big fat idiot" because he's american.

All statements of which are not true.

Clay is not a big fat idiot, cane isn't always drunk and tony isn't a drug lord.

So, you really have to see wher jikit is coming from.

The fact that he's now vented and admitted that's what he was doing should of stopped this discussion, it's just turned into that thread about that NM member who got stopped for smoking lol.

And no, you should never judge a book by it's cover.

Everyone thinks a pedophile would look like some weedy, bald 40ish year old guy, but in actual fact, most pedophiles are 20-25. If that advert was true.

[Bara]

Just a point on the difference between what you are wearing and the others pictured. They aren't wearing bandannas with skulls and cross bones on them.

[Enishi]

Originally Posted by Jikit

Ok, we are all dressed very similarly so we will be fashionable and match. We are all wearing Bandana's around our necks. Is everyone in this selection a thug?

Me

Would've shot first then taken off the bandana. Clearly you look like a thug. You know black people get shit for dressing like thugs so why do it?

Originally Posted by Jikit

Some dude

Who the hell is he gonna rob? Pee-wee Herman?

Originally Posted by Jikit

Kanye I think

Just because a celebrity does it doesn't mean you have too as well.

Originally Posted by Jikit

Some girl.

Jesus Christ. Shoot her. She's ugly.

Just look at these people and tell me who is the highest threat. If you don't see it then you are living in bliss. Stereotyping is common and "wrong" but it is so true that it isn't funny. Try breaking out of the stereotype by not wearing a bandana.

[Kel]

Originally Posted by The stig

But the thing is, he wasn't dressing thug.

There is actually, no such thing as "thug style", you may think there is, but in actual fact, there isn't.

The fact everyone is immediately associated a black guy in hip hop fashion with thugs is very steryotypical and racist.

For the record, i don't wear the bandana anymore, it just hangs up somewhere, come to think of it, i don't know where haha.

I mean, it's like me going "Tony deals in cocaine and is a drug lord", just because he's cuban. Or cane "Cane is always drunk" just because he's irish.

Or "Clay is a big fat idiot" because he's american.

All statements of which are not true.

Clay is not a big fat idiot, cane isn't always drunk and tony isn't a drug lord.

So, you really have to see wher jikit is coming from.

The fact that he's now vented and admitted that's what he was doing should of stopped this discussion, it's just turned into that thread about that NM member who got stopped for smoking lol.

And no, you should never judge a book by it's cover.

Everyone thinks a pedophile would look like some weedy, bald 40ish year old guy, but in actual fact, most pedophiles are 20-25. If that advert was true.

Your statements are based on race, and the thing in question here was based more on what he was wearing/how he looked in it.

There is a thug style. Where the hell do you live?

[The stig]

thug (thg)
n.
1. A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
2. also Thug One of a band of professional assassins formerly active in northern India who worshiped Kali and offered their victims to her.

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[Hindi hag, perhaps from Sanskrit sthaga, a cheat, from sthagati, sthagayati, he conceals; see (s)teg- in Indo-European roots.]

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thugger·y n.
thuggish adj.

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thug
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a tough and violent man, esp. a criminal [Hindi thag thief]
thuggery n
thuggish adj
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Noun 1. thug - an aggressive and violent young criminal
hood, hoodlum, punk, strong-armer, toughie, goon, tough
bully - a hired thug
criminal, crook, felon, malefactor, outlaw - someone who has committed a crime or has been legally convicted of a crime

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thug
noun ruffian, hooligan, tough, heavy (slang) killer, murderer, robber, gangster, assassin, bandit, mugger (informal) cut-throat, bully boy, bruiser (informal) tsotsi S. African
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thug [θʌg] n → gamberro/a
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thug [θʌg] n → voyou m
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thug
n thug [θag]
a violent, brutal person Where are the young thugs who robbed the old man?skurkسَفّاح، سَفّاكглаворезbanditabølleder/die Gewaltverbrecher(in)κακοποιός, τραμπούκοςbestia; gamberrokõrilõikajaآدم جانیroistovoyouבִּריוֹןठगnasilnik, grubijanorgyilkos, gengszterorang jahatóþokkicriminale暴漢악한banditasbandītssamsengmisd adigerbanditt, morderzbirrufiãobătăuşголоворезlupič, vrah, gangsternasilnežrazbojnikbandit, våldsmanคนโหดร้ายhaydut暴徒, 兇手убивця; головорізٹھگ، رہزنkẻ sát nhân暴徒, 凶手

No where does that mention "A black man who dresses in hip hop associated clothing."

A thug has NOTHING to do with clothing, ffs.

More white people are thugs than black people, why don't we start saying lacost trackies are thug style?

EDIT:

There is a thug style. Where the hell do you live?

Look at my location...

And no the bloody isn't!

Where in that definition does it mention clothing?

A thug is a person, not a style...

Most thugs DON'T wear hip hop clothing!

Most thugs aren't wanabe gansters playing cops and robbers wearing only red and only blue.

THUG is an act, a person who performs brutal acts etc Not a stupid fucking style.

Thug may refer to:

• Thug, (ठग), a member of the defunct Indian cult Thuggee.
• Thug, a gangster or a petty thief
• Thug, a gardening term meaning an over-vigorous plant that spreads excessively.
• Thug, a wooden bat used in the game miniten.
• Thug, a type of allomancer in the Mistborn series of books by Brandon Sanderson
• ThugLine Records, a record label.
• Thug Worx Recordz or TWR, a record label.
• Thug Misses Entertainment, a record label.
• THUG, an abbreviation for Tony Hawk's Underground.
• T.H.U.G. (True Hero Under God), in relation to rap artist Z-Ro
• T.H.U.G.S., an acronym popularised by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
• T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E., an acronym coined by the late hip hop lyricist Tupac Shakur.

Thugs (thŭgz), former Indian religious sect of murderers and robbers, also called Phansigars [stranglers]. Membership was primarily hereditary and included both Hindus and Muslims, but all were devotees of the Hindu goddess Kali Kali (kä`lē) [Hindi,=the Black One], important goddess in popular Hinduism and Tantra .
..... Click the link for more information. and committed their murders as sacrifices to her. A pickax (representing the tooth of Kali, which she was said to have bestowed upon the organization) was consecrated after the victim's grave had been dug with it. For most of the year Thugs followed ordinary occupations, but in the autumn they went about in bands, disguised as merchants or religious mendicants. When they encountered wealthy travelers, they would ingratiate themselves and await an opportunity to kill. The murder was effected by strangling the victim with a scarf reserved for the purpose. Women and members of certain low castes, such as sweepers, washermen, and musicians, were usually exempted from attack. The Thugs, whose activities are known as far back as the 13th cent., were protected by their strong organization and by local officials with whom they would divide the spoils. Early in the period of British rule in India the decision was made to destroy the Thugs. Sir William Sleeman accomplished the repression (1829–48) by mass arrests and executions.

Just like emo is not actually a style of clothing.

This article is about the style of music. For other uses, see Emo (disambiguation).
Emo is a style of rock music which describes several independent variations of music with common stylistic roots. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate. In the mid-1980s, the term emo described a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, DC music scene of the mid-1980s. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotive hardcore"[1][2] or sometimes "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the emotional performances of bands in the Washington DC scene and some of the offshoot regional scenes such as Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and later, Moss Icon.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to refer to the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason had a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles. As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the mainstream style. As a result, the term "emo" became a vaguely defined identifier rather than a specific genre of music.

Here is scally, which is also a made up word, yet has a meaning.

Scally is a slang term for a social subculture youth, similar to "chav", but with different origins. The term is used across the UK, predominantly in the north-west of England and particularly in Liverpool and Manchester to describe mostly young, working class people.

Often romanticised through TV programmes like Brookside and Bread, the word 'scally' during the 1970s and 1980s meant someone who was a pioneer in fashion trends, and someone who was resourceful beyond his means with limited resources to begin with. During the 1990s the term started to be used to describe a yob or a hooligan.

chav
Noun
Brit slang, derogatory a young working-class person who dresses in casual sports clothes

If i have to do this all day, i probably will since i have no money to go out for my mates bday tonight Or shoes and ID, stupid rules saying can't wear trainers in clubs blah blah...

Do i need to go on?

Sorry for the long post, but people constantly saying thug is a style has pissed me off over the years.

[Jikit]

Originally Posted by Bara

Just a point on the difference between what you are wearing and the others pictured. They aren't wearing bandannas with skulls and cross bones on them.

That's not the one. Also I was wearing wearing all white at the mall. So it's like the opposite of that picture. The bandana I had on didn't have skulls it was checkered.

Originally Posted by Enishi

Stereotyping is common and "wrong" but it is so true that it isn't funny. Try breaking out of the stereotype by not wearing a bandana.

I break them every day by dressing VARIOUS WAYS!!! I choose to dress that way one day because, I had just purchased the bandana the prior day.

Originally Posted by The stig

If i have to do this all day, i probably will since i have no money to go out for my mates bday tonight Or shoes and ID, stupid rules saying can't wear trainers in clubs blah blah...

Do i need to go on?

Sorry for the long post, but people constantly saying thug is a style has pissed me off over the years.

Thank you I've been trying to state that one does not dress like a thug. People just thing that thug is a style when it's a type of person. It's rather stupid how stereotypes work they are rooted in the truth because, gang banging African American males do love the hip hop culture but so does the rest of the race. Associating one race with actions the actions of a few in the race is stupid.

What I wear is my business. If I commit no crime then what is the problem? Because, "I look like a threat?" Come on... What does a threat look like. Some of the moves famous serial killers didn't even look the part and came of as regular people. The VA Tech. student didn't dress like a thug, neither did the Columbine students. Each of these cases had huge massacres. But since they didn't "look like a threat" then they were fine. Generally people who stand out aren't as bad as those who don't.

[vAiz]

Just dress the way you like to, although its pretty odd that the Guard(?) at the Mall told you to go out.. Maybe he thought you were indeed related to thugs or whatsoever. However, you look like a friendly person so I should just suggest to wear different clothes next time you enter the same mall >_>

[Cane_The9lives]

Originally Posted by The stig

No where does that mention "A black man who dresses in hip hop associated clothing."

A thug has NOTHING to do with clothing, ffs.

You seem to misunderstand the way in which people in this thread are using the word "Thug"

They arent using the word in the exact way it has traditionally been used before the term became urbanized by society.
Thug is often colloquially used to describe anything that appears gang related, or "Gangsta" related. The black community have been the poster figures for gangs and the "Gangsta" movement, this isnt opinion this is fact.

Originally Posted by The stig

More white people are thugs than black people, why don't we start saying lacost trackies are thug style?

This is a baseless assertion, unless you have documentation and statistical analysis that shows that the majority of "Thugs"(however you percieve that word) are white.

If you cant provide evidence, then dont make the claim.

Originally Posted by The stig

Where in that definition does it mention clothing?

A thug is a person, not a style...

Again you fail to realize that in the modern era thug is used colloquially, it can mean a plethora of things, its no longer simply a paticular individual. Its a concept that includes(but not limited to):Clothing, lifestyle, beliefs blah blah.

Originally Posted by The stig

Most thugs DON'T wear hip hop clothing!