Bandana's in the mall

[The stig]

So what is this?

So which one is the "thug style"?

Open my eyes to the fucked up logic

[Cane_The9lives]

[quote=The stig;3020367]So what is this?

Dress that is most otftenly associated with gang activity, and the rap gangsta movement, what they are wearing can be refferred to as"thug apparrel"

This is a white boy who doesnt realize he is white.
There are slight thug implications, but hardly.

These individuals are not exactly wearing clothes comperable to the first image. They are wearing sports clothes, that are not neccisarily associated with the "Thug lifestyle"

Al capone, wearing the stereotypical "Mob" suite.

Some guy with his feet propped up, making a face.

Image does not work.

Someone with very bad taste in clothing, presumably a rapper.

[Hanukkah Harry]

^I think the last one was of a gay guy trying to be a rapper.

[The stig]

Dress that is most otftenly associated with gang activity, and the rap gangsta movement, what they are wearing can be refferred to as"thug apparrel"

Which is funny since i only typed in "Hip hop style", not rap gangster or thug.

This is a white boy who doesnt realize he is white.
There are slight thug implications, but hardly.

HAHAHA, funny, since that is a scally, who is the thug... And also funny since white guys are the ones who wore track suits first... What he's wearing actually has nothing to do with rap or gangs.

These individuals are not exactly wearing clothes comperable to the first image. They are wearing sports clothes, that are not neccisarily associated with the "Thug lifestyle"

Mm hm...

In actual fact, they are more thug than "black guys wearing hip hop clothing". Come to england, you'll see what i mean...

"Sports clothing" is often associated with thugs, "yobbos", "hoodies".

You've been living in america far to long.

Al capone, wearing the stereotypical "Mob" suite.

Well done, but he is more thug than any little "G"... So, why isn't his style considered thug?

I mean, all the gangsters are the most thug, yet, it's the black guys who dress in hip hop clothing that are associated with thug and are said to be wearing "thug style". Do i sense some racism here?

Some guy with his feet propped up, making a face.

Mm hm, the correct answer was a skinhead.

Again, ones associated with thug lifestyles more than any black kid wearing hip hop clothing...

So why isn't their hair style(skinhead), called "thug style"

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It was a none balck person wearing a white jacket with blue, and yellow stuff on it. It came up when i typed in "Hip hop fashion".

Someone with very bad taste in clothing, presumably a rapper.

He's bashy, a UK hip hop artist who is well known.

I happen to like that jacket, though it wouldn't suit me.

And why does it have to be a rapper who has the bad taste in clothing?

And isn't it all really just opinion?

[Cane_The9lives]

Originally Posted by The stig

Which is funny since i only typed in "Hip hop style", not rap gangster or thug.

Those styles are all heavily related, infact its near impossible to tell the difference since they are all associated with the same movement.

Originally Posted by Thestig

HAHAHA, funny, since that is a scally, who is the thug... And also funny since white guys are the ones who wore track suits first... What he's wearing actually has nothing to do with rap or gangs.

All you are doing is mixing and matching common urban stereotypes and not even realizing they are all closely related becuase of their origins, and what is commonly associated with them.
Ive seen pictures of gang members wearing track uniforms, ive seen rappers wear them, along with a excessive amount of jewelrly and hats cocked to the side.

Originally Posted by TheStig

In actual fact, they are more thug than "black guys wearing hip hop clothing". Come to england, you'll see what i mean...

You just hit the nail on the head.
You have(most likely) unknowingly addressed the fact that there are different perceptions on what consitutes a thug, in differing cultures and locations.

Before you were ranting about how thug couldnt be a style, and that it couldnt be percieved any differently, if you were not argueing that then your entire post from then on is a stark contradiction to your original point.

Originally Posted by Thestig

"Sports clothing" is often associated with thugs, "yobbos", "hoodies".

You are referencing a cultural perception associated with that cultures paticular stereotypes, and profiling systems.
You have to realize that clothing worn in a paticular way is often percieved differently in different communities that dont share the same moral values, or cultural perceptions.

Originally Posted by TheStig

You've been living in america far to long.

Again you uknowingly envoke the idea that stereotypes are different, depending on the countries, and cultures.
This completly contradicts your earlier points, in which you were argueing that those who were percieving what "Whats his face" was wearing, was indicative of a "thug style".

Originally Posted by Thestig

Well done, but he is more thug than any little "G"... So, why isn't his style considered thug?

Many people back in the day did consider al capone a thug and a gangtser. However those two concepts and stereotpyes were compleltly different than the modern day"Thug" and "Gangsta".

There was no rap "Thug" and "Gangtsa" movement back then, so the word thug and gangster invoked ideas of organized criminal, or cronie to organized crime members.

In the modern era, al capone would not be considered a"thug" comperable to what is commonly thought of as thug, when being associated with the rap "Gangsta" movement.

Originally Posted by TheStig

I mean, all the gangsters are the most thug, yet, it's the black guys who dress in hip hop clothing that are associated with thug and are said to be wearing "thug style". Do i sense some racism here?

No what you are sensing is your own misconceptions.
You are using the word and concept of thug, commonly used in this day an age(when associated with the rap movement) and attempting to associate it with an era in which the term meant somthing almost completly different.

In that time period, thug had yet to branch out into a style other than perhaps the clad suit look. In that period of time, it was more of a job and a way of life, than an actual look.
The iconic look wouldnt be cemented as stereotypical"Gangster look" until it history.

Originally Posted by TheStig

Mm hm, the correct answer was a skinhead.

That example was completly inadquate for anyone who wasnt argueing from your standpoint, to even recognize the correlation you were attempting to make.
All i saw was a guy with a shaved head giving me a face.
There was nothing else thatwould be indicitave of being a skinhead, since ive seen non skinheads before who looked almost just like that.

You should also research what a skinhead really is, it also was not historically somthing related to the racial gang movement until someone stole the idea, and used it in such a way.

You consistantly fail to realize... ideas, symbols, words can have double meanings becuase at one point in time, the word is changed into a completly different concept, from an outside source.

The swastika is a perfect example.

Originally Posted by TheStig

Again, ones associated with thug lifestyles more than any black kid wearing hip hop clothing...

Unless you are prepared to quantify theses erronious statements which imply that one race over the other is more associated with the idea of "thug" do not make them.

Originally Posted by TheStig

And why does it have to be a rapper who has the bad taste in clothing?

Because in my opinion rappers dress like idiots, it has nothing to do with the person in paticular, wrather the entire movement itself.

[San Goku]

Originally Posted by X2thaU

aren't you black? stop trying to rob malls and Security guards would stop bothering you.

lmao, stop stiring up trouble

[Jikit]

Good god >.> It's hard to be a black man in America. But on a more serious note. Come on guy's you can't say that labeling the African American population as the specification of thug life isn't wrong. Of course how gang members dress and typical African Americans people dress are pretty close because, we are of the same race with the same taste. I'm not ignorant to the fact that Gang Members rock the same thing I do. I'm also not ignorant that many other minorities as well as whites also rock some of the same gear. In America it's almost a crime just to be black and that's wrong. Obama is getting so much shit because, he's only HALF BLACK. It's like we are an inferior race because, we choose to represent ourselves differently than the norm.

Just because I want to embrace my culture doesn't mean I'm a criminal. Dudes, it's just sickining.

[The stig]

@cane: I said al copones style lol, not him himself.

Also, i'm still saying thug isn't a style.

EDIT: The only way i'll say thug is a style is if someone picks up a fashion magazine that says "thug style" and that shows a bunch of clothing underneath it...

[Cane_The9lives]

Originally Posted by The stig

@cane: I said al copones style lol, not him himself.

Also, i'm still saying thug isn't a style.

EDIT: The only way i'll say thug is a style is if someone picks up a fashion magazine that says "thug style" and that shows a bunch of clothing underneath it...

Thug is like every other colliqual term, it can be associated with many things.

Just how rap is no longer simply a style of singing, its a way of life and even has its own recognizing charcteristics as far as clothing, and speech.

[The stig]

^CLothing is hip hop, not rap, hip hop is all forms of rap.

How is it a life lol?

[Cane_The9lives]

Originally Posted by The stig

^CLothing is hip hop, not rap, hip hop is all forms of rap.

How is it a life lol?

Hip hop is a cultural way of life for many people.

Rap by association is also a cultural movement.

[ACCUNE]

Jikit was this your first time being singled out in this matter ? (Not trying to be funny,just a general question)

[Jikit]

Originally Posted by ACCUNE

Jikit was this your first time being singled out in this matter ? (Not trying to be funny,just a general question)

Yes it is my first time I was raced primarily in white communities. That's part of the reason I decided to go to a Historically Black College to find out more about my people and culture. I never really saw race all I saw was people until I got in to the "real world" I still just seem people but some have to see what i see there are no races there are just people with different completions.

[ACCUNE]

Originally Posted by Jikit

Yes it is my first time I was raced primarily in white communities. That's part of the reason I decided to go to a Historically Black College to find out more about my people and culture. I never really saw race all I saw was people until I got in to the "real world" I still just seem people but some have to see what i see there are no races there are just people with different completions.

I can relate to you in a way though I never had a "Black White single out situation".I had a Foreigner/National situation and it perplexed me s because for the most part like you I saw people on an even field, but was not naive to other situations and I've never experienced anything like that before.

[The stig]

It's all well and good saying "I see only people, not colour blah blah blah", but deep down, everyone's racist, just a little.

Me, i see people, only people, we're all human, but when someone who isn't white pisses me off, lets say a muslim or someone on the phone (i think a lot of UK will understand lol).

I can become the most racist bastard you've seen lol, and i do let some racism out.

I'd be willing to bet that everyone in this thread has or will at one stage have a racist thought or perform some sort of racist act lol.

[ACCUNE]

^I agree Stig for the most part we all have thoughts that are contrary to the person we are our want to become.It just when you let those thoughts flourish in your head it becomes a problem.

[The stig]

^I'm in full agreement.

By no means was i trying to defend the security guard, or rent-a-cop, what ever he was. Mall cop.

I was simply saying, that at times, we are no better than him, if this was infact due to the fact jikit was black, though i don't agree with anything racist lol.