Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia

Azn · 08-08-2008, 08:11 PM

Georgia says Russian aircraft bombed its air bases - Yahoo! News

DZHAVA, Georgia - Russia sent columns of tanks and reportedly bombed Georgian air bases Friday after Georgia launched a major military offensive Friday to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia, threatening to ignite a broader conflict.
Hundreds of civilians were reported dead in the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won defacto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Witnesses said the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was devastated.
"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who had fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. "It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged."
The fighting broke out as much of the world's attention was focused on the start of the Olympic Games and many leaders, including Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Bush, were in Beijing.
The timing suggests Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili may have been counting on surprise to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia — a key to his hold on power.
Saakashvili agreed the timing was not coincidental, but accused Russia of being the aggressor. "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he said in an interview with CNN. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country."
The Russian stock market plunged around 6.5 percent on Friday, apparently in response to the fighting.
Diplomats called for another emergency session of the United Nations Security Council, its second since early Friday morning seeking to prevent an all-out war.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had spoken to the parties involved and was working to end the fighting, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos told reporters.
Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili told CNN that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.
Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.
The U.N. refugee agency said Friday that hundreds were fleeing the fighting in South Ossetia and seeking safety elsewhere in Georgia or neighboring Russia.
The leader of South Ossetia's rebel government, Eduard Kokoity, said about 1,400 people were killed in the onslaught, the Interfax news agency reported. The toll could not be independently confirmed.
Ten Russian peacekeepers were killed and 30 wounded when their barracks were hit in Georgian shelling, said Russian Ground Forces spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov. Russia has soldiers in South Ossetia as peacekeeping forces but Georgia alleges they back the separatists.
Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases inside Georgia, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base.
Russia's Defense Ministry said it was sending reinforcements for its peacekeepers, and Russian state television and Georgian officials reported a convoy of tanks had crossed the border. The convoy was expected to reach the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, by evening, Channel One television said.
The International Committee of the Red Cross, citing local medical officials, said that Tskhinvali's main hospital had closed down after coming under fire from artillery.

Water, electricity and telephone lines in the city also have been cut off, ICRC spokeswoman Maia Kardava said by telephone from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi.
Georgian State Minister for Reintegration Temur Yakobashvili said government troops were now in full control of Tskhinvali, but the RIA-Novosti news agency quoted Konashenkov as saying late Friday that Russian tanks were firing on Georgian positions in the city.
"We are facing Russian aggression," said Georgia's Security Council chief Kakha Lomaya. "They have sent in their troops and weapons and they are bombing our towns."
Putin has warned that the Georgian attack will draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship.
Chairing a session of his Security Council in the Kremlin, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also vowed that Moscow will protect Russian citizens.
"In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said, according to Russian news reports. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished."
On Friday, an AP reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia — supporting the reports of an incursion. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia.
"I saw them (the Georgians) shelling my village," said Maria, who gave only her first name. She said she and other villagers spent the night in a field and then fled toward the Russian border as the fighting escalated.
Yakobashvili said Georgian forces had shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory but gave no details. Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgia report about one Russian plane downed and had no immediate comment on the latest claim.
Yakobashvili said that one Russian plane had dropped a bomb on the Vaziani military base near the Georgian capital, but no one was hurt.
More than 1,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers were at the base last month to teach combat skills to Georgian troops. Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain.
South Ossetia officials said Georgia attacked with aircraft, armor and heavy artillery. Georgian troops fired missiles at Tskhinvali, an official said, and many buildings were on fire.
Georgia's president said Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities.
A senior Russian diplomat in charge of the South Ossetian conflict, Yuri Popov, dismissed the Georgian claims of Russian bombings as misinformation, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported.
Russia's Defense Ministry denounced the Georgian attack as a "dirty adventure." "Blood shed in South Ossetia will weigh on their conscience," the ministry said in a statement posted on its Web site.
Saakashvili long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and built up ties with Moscow.
Relations between Georgia and Russia worsened notably this year as Georgia pushed to join NATO and Russia dispatched additional peacekeeper forces to Abkhazia.
The Georgian attack came just hours after Saakashvili announced a unilateral cease-fire in a television broadcast late Thursday in which he also urged South Ossetian separatist leaders to enter talks on resolving the conflict.
Georgian officials later blamed South Ossetian separatists for thwarting the cease-fire by shelling Georgian villages in the area.

There will probably be an all out war (probably not but, who knows these days). Two countries with bad relations, and Georgia seriously wants their two provinces back. Will be interesting. Go russia!

If you guys are to lazy to read, guess this vid provides some more info http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26714&src=news

edit: wow woops. Title says george. Can a mod fix that to Georgia

**nidaba** · 08-08-2008, 08:20 PM

Alright, first let me admit that I'm really bad about keeping up with current events. I know Georgia and Russia have had animosity forever, but...isn't Georgia tiny? I know the US has ties with them and has provided support, but am I missing something here? Do they have any chance at all against a country so much larger than them? I don't really see the US choosing to actually attack Russia. =/

Azn · 08-08-2008, 08:23 PM

Yea there will obviously be some cease fire and some middle ground agreement but, least something's happening.

Righteous Judgment · 08-08-2008, 09:00 PM

Completely idiotic Russia would rape these fuckers and the everyone knows the US is too overstretched to bother with interceding here.

I get it Georgia didn't like their status quo with Russia and nothing but force would change that status quo, but they don't have the kind of force that would result in a favorable outcome for them.

Gathan · 08-08-2008, 09:07 PM

^Yep basically Georgia in a conflict with Russia will become Russia's province again LOL!

GaaranGaara · 08-08-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gathan

^Yep basically Georgia in a conflict with Russia will become Russia's province again LOL!

I sure hope not. They might get excited and want to try and take some provinces near their other borders aswell (Finland).

I doubt they'd be that stupid because Finland is a major trading partner for them and a member of the EU.

Renzo · 09-08-2008, 09:46 AM

totally thought it was Russia invading ATL when i saw this on the news

Keerua · 09-08-2008, 01:31 PM

Georgians are terrorists, it is Russias war on terror now, they don't need no permission, I am gonna snap if someone intervenes.

Gambler · 09-08-2008, 05:04 PM

Yea, this isn't good.

I'm hoping the U.S. stays out of it, but I also hope that Georgia prevails from this conflict. Doubtful as that is, Russia doesn't need any more influence on the world stage than it has already.

krozar · 09-08-2008, 05:16 PM

The US will stay out of it militarily.

Putin is a pretty good leader though for what Russia needs. If anyone is successfully waging war on terrorism, it's Putin. One thing the commies were good at was keeping the radicals in their place. Used to hear about Chechnya in the news every week with some attack or another. Ever since that school bombing, it's been dead silent from over there. Putin went in and had enough of that shit.

GaaranGaara · 09-08-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krozar

Putin is a pretty good leader though for what Russia needs. If anyone is successfully waging war on terrorism, it's Putin. One thing the commies were good at was keeping the radicals in their place. Used to hear about Chechnya in the news every week with some attack or another. Ever since that school bombing, it's been dead silent from over there. Putin went in and had enough of that shit.

Yeh, I quess he is a decent one.

Though Medvedev is the president nowdays and Putin is the prime minister (after his presidency). I'm guessing Putin is still totally running the show. As Medvedev is just his lapdog.

Azn · 09-08-2008, 08:16 PM

Russian troops raid Georgian town; scores dead - Yahoo! News

We saw it coming. Russia is fightin back. I lol'd at Georgia saying it was unprovoked agression though.

/win · 09-08-2008, 10:08 PM

U.S. is not getting involved. i'm glad we're keeping out of something that isn't our business for once.

Majin · 10-08-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by krozar

The US will stay out of it militarily.

Putin is a pretty good leader though for what Russia needs. If anyone is successfully waging war on terrorism, it's Putin. One thing the commies were good at was keeping the radicals in their place. Used to hear about Chechnya in the news every week with some attack or another. Ever since that school bombing, it's been dead silent from over there. Putin went in and had enough of that shit.

Pretty much the problem with liberals and republicans.

You got the tyrant with balls who will step the fuck up when shit hits the fan, or the annoyingly pc 'lets be friends' group.

haydee · 10-08-2008, 06:22 PM

No shock on this turn of events...with Goergia wanting a ceasefire.

Georgia declares cease-fire, wants talks - Russia - MSNBC.com

No freaking clue why this even started. But sad as heck to see the poeple caught in the crossfire just becuase some idiots decided they wanted to take over that specific peice of land.

GaaranGaara · 10-08-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by haydee

No freaking clue why this even started. But sad as heck to see the poeple caught in the crossfire just becuase some idiots decided they wanted to take over that specific peice of land.

Actually no, any idiots didn't want to take over anything. From what I've gathered. Georgia's army marched to south Ossetia because the locals are saying "we don't want be apart of Georgia no more" They want to be independent but from what I know Georgia has been denying them. This crisis has been boiling for some time and now it exploded

So WTF is Russia doing there? Well it just so happens that these locals are kinda friendly with Russia. And I think Russia sees this as a chance to whack Georgia.

Of course these weren't the official reasons given. If I remember correctly Russia stated that "There are russians in that area we need to protect"

But I think that if the South-Ossetians think to gain independence with the help of Russia they are fools.

Now, I want to state that I'm not a 100% sure of this and it's just my take on things.

**FireSight** · 10-08-2008, 08:14 PM

South Ossetians actually want to be part of russia rather than Georgia, and they have basically been unofficially a part of Russia for years... and Georgia decided that they were going to finally take offense to that. Russia has provided visa's for most of the people in that province, and so were a bit ticked off at the attack, and stepped in.

Bradjune1980 · 11-08-2008, 06:15 PM

Unofficially? that means its not part of Russia. Just because they gave passports and visas to the citizens does not make the Russian citizens. So all of Russia's claims are Bull.

Everyone in this thread needs to go back to school and be re taught what Sovereignty means. When Georgia broke off Ossetia was part of that break off and part of Georgia.

Anyone that knows anything about military operations could see that this was planned for months on russias part. They have also been giving weapons to the Ossetian's, and helped the ethnic cleansing in the norther province that was stolen from Georgia. They have also had public officials targeted for assassination by Russia.

Georgia had every right to send troops into its own province as a Sovereign nation. Russia has no reason to be in that area at all. Plus they have now advanced beyond the borders of that region and are taking other cities.

Your making the victims of Russian aggression, the perpetrators its sick.
Anyone in favor of Russian aggression needs to get a clue.

The double standards of people are sickening.

Gathan · 11-08-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradjune1980

Unofficially? that means its not part of Russia. Just because they gave passports and visas to the citizens does not make the Russian citizens. So all of Russia's claims are Bull.

Everyone in this thread needs to go back to school and be re taught what Sovereignty means. When Georgia broke off Ossetia was part of that break off and part of Georgia.

Anyone that knows anything about military operations could see that this was planned for months on russias part. They have also been giving weapons to the Ossetian's, and helped the ethnic cleansing in the norther province that was stolen from Georgia. They have also had public officials targeted for assassination by Russia.

Georgia had every right to send troops into its own province as a Sovereign nation. Russia has no reason to be in that area at all. Plus they have now advanced beyond the borders of that region and are taking other cities.

Your making the victims of Russian aggression, the perpetrators its sick.
Anyone in favor of Russian aggression needs to get a clue.

The double standards of people are sickening.

So your saying its alright for Georgia to have broken off from Russia, but its not alright for South Ossetia to break off from Georgia
Using your logic it would have been ok for Russia to attack Georgia when it broke off.
And you want to talk about double standards wow

Bradjune1980 · 11-08-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gathan

So your saying its alright for Georgia to have broken off from Russia, but its not alright for South Ossetia to break off from Georgia
Using your logic it would have been ok for Russia to attack Georgia when it broke off.
And you want to talk about double standards wow

So every country that broke off after the Berlin wall fell should go back to Russia?

Are you retarded. You must be.

Georgia was recognized by the world community along with all the other breakaway countries.

And by the same token russia has been getting sanctioned for its interference with Gerogia for years by the world community. Just because your ignorant of what is happening in the world doesnt make it ok for russia to trample on another countries rights.

Its like a repeat of hitler in WW2 all over again.

08-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#1
Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,385 My Mood: Rep Power: 26	Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Georgia says Russian aircraft bombed its air bases - Yahoo! News DZHAVA, Georgia - Russia sent columns of tanks and reportedly bombed Georgian air bases Friday after Georgia launched a major military offensive Friday to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia, threatening to ignite a broader conflict. Hundreds of civilians were reported dead in the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won defacto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Witnesses said the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was devastated. "I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who had fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. "It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged." The fighting broke out as much of the world's attention was focused on the start of the Olympic Games and many leaders, including Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Bush, were in Beijing. The timing suggests Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili may have been counting on surprise to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia — a key to his hold on power. Saakashvili agreed the timing was not coincidental, but accused Russia of being the aggressor. "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he said in an interview with CNN. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country." The Russian stock market plunged around 6.5 percent on Friday, apparently in response to the fighting. Diplomats called for another emergency session of the United Nations Security Council, its second since early Friday morning seeking to prevent an all-out war. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had spoken to the parties involved and was working to end the fighting, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos told reporters. Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili told CNN that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting. Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region. The U.N. refugee agency said Friday that hundreds were fleeing the fighting in South Ossetia and seeking safety elsewhere in Georgia or neighboring Russia. The leader of South Ossetia's rebel government, Eduard Kokoity, said about 1,400 people were killed in the onslaught, the Interfax news agency reported. The toll could not be independently confirmed. Ten Russian peacekeepers were killed and 30 wounded when their barracks were hit in Georgian shelling, said Russian Ground Forces spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov. Russia has soldiers in South Ossetia as peacekeeping forces but Georgia alleges they back the separatists. Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases inside Georgia, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base. Russia's Defense Ministry said it was sending reinforcements for its peacekeepers, and Russian state television and Georgian officials reported a convoy of tanks had crossed the border. The convoy was expected to reach the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, by evening, Channel One television said. The International Committee of the Red Cross, citing local medical officials, said that Tskhinvali's main hospital had closed down after coming under fire from artillery. Water, electricity and telephone lines in the city also have been cut off, ICRC spokeswoman Maia Kardava said by telephone from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi. Georgian State Minister for Reintegration Temur Yakobashvili said government troops were now in full control of Tskhinvali, but the RIA-Novosti news agency quoted Konashenkov as saying late Friday that Russian tanks were firing on Georgian positions in the city. "We are facing Russian aggression," said Georgia's Security Council chief Kakha Lomaya. "They have sent in their troops and weapons and they are bombing our towns." Putin has warned that the Georgian attack will draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship. Chairing a session of his Security Council in the Kremlin, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also vowed that Moscow will protect Russian citizens. "In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said, according to Russian news reports. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished." On Friday, an AP reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia — supporting the reports of an incursion. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia. "I saw them (the Georgians) shelling my village," said Maria, who gave only her first name. She said she and other villagers spent the night in a field and then fled toward the Russian border as the fighting escalated. Yakobashvili said Georgian forces had shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory but gave no details. Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgia report about one Russian plane downed and had no immediate comment on the latest claim. Yakobashvili said that one Russian plane had dropped a bomb on the Vaziani military base near the Georgian capital, but no one was hurt. More than 1,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers were at the base last month to teach combat skills to Georgian troops. Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. South Ossetia officials said Georgia attacked with aircraft, armor and heavy artillery. Georgian troops fired missiles at Tskhinvali, an official said, and many buildings were on fire. Georgia's president said Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities. A senior Russian diplomat in charge of the South Ossetian conflict, Yuri Popov, dismissed the Georgian claims of Russian bombings as misinformation, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported. Russia's Defense Ministry denounced the Georgian attack as a "dirty adventure." "Blood shed in South Ossetia will weigh on their conscience," the ministry said in a statement posted on its Web site. Saakashvili long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and built up ties with Moscow. Relations between Georgia and Russia worsened notably this year as Georgia pushed to join NATO and Russia dispatched additional peacekeeper forces to Abkhazia. The Georgian attack came just hours after Saakashvili announced a unilateral cease-fire in a television broadcast late Thursday in which he also urged South Ossetian separatist leaders to enter talks on resolving the conflict. Georgian officials later blamed South Ossetian separatists for thwarting the cease-fire by shelling Georgian villages in the area. There will probably be an all out war (probably not but, who knows these days). Two countries with bad relations, and Georgia seriously wants their two provinces back. Will be interesting. Go russia! If you guys are to lazy to read, guess this vid provides some more info http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26714&src=news edit: wow woops. Title says george. Can a mod fix that to Georgia Last edited by Azn; 08-08-2008 at 08:21 PM.

08-08-2008, 08:20 PM	#2
nidaba Draw Me a Sheep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Never separate me from these stars Posts: 12,820 My Mood: Rep Power: 101 Total Awards: 3	re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Alright, first let me admit that I'm really bad about keeping up with current events. I know Georgia and Russia have had animosity forever, but...isn't Georgia tiny? I know the US has ties with them and has provided support, but am I missing something here? Do they have any chance at all against a country so much larger than them? I don't really see the US choosing to actually attack Russia. =/ __________________ What makes the desert beautiful, is that somewhere it hides a well.

08-08-2008, 08:23 PM	#3
Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,385 My Mood: Rep Power: 26	re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Yea there will obviously be some cease fire and some middle ground agreement but, least something's happening.

08-08-2008, 09:07 PM	#5
Gathan ANBU Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,570 Rep Power: 9	re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia ^Yep basically Georgia in a conflict with Russia will become Russia's province again LOL!

09-08-2008, 09:46 AM	#7
Renzo Antennas to Heaven Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newport News Posts: 3,362 My Mood: Rep Power: 22	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia totally thought it was Russia invading ATL when i saw this on the news __________________ The angels in your palm Sing gentle worried songs And the sweetness of our dreams Like mountains made of steam

09-08-2008, 01:31 PM	#8
Keerua Raitei Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Noway Posts: 1,388 My Mood: Rep Power: 19	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Georgians are terrorists, it is Russias war on terror now, they don't need no permission, I am gonna snap if someone intervenes. __________________ All I am about to do is strike you 8 times okay?

09-08-2008, 05:04 PM	#9
Gambler ANBU Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,179 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Yea, this isn't good. I'm hoping the U.S. stays out of it, but I also hope that Georgia prevails from this conflict. Doubtful as that is, Russia doesn't need any more influence on the world stage than it has already.

09-08-2008, 05:16 PM	#10
krozar Absolut Krozar Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The land of SEXIST email hackers. Posts: 16,152 My Mood: Rep Power: 164 Total Awards: 4	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia The US will stay out of it militarily. Putin is a pretty good leader though for what Russia needs. If anyone is successfully waging war on terrorism, it's Putin. One thing the commies were good at was keeping the radicals in their place. Used to hear about Chechnya in the news every week with some attack or another. Ever since that school bombing, it's been dead silent from over there. Putin went in and had enough of that shit. __________________ Maka sees what you did there!

09-08-2008, 08:16 PM	#12
Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,385 My Mood: Rep Power: 26	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Russian troops raid Georgian town; scores dead - Yahoo! News We saw it coming. Russia is fightin back. I lol'd at Georgia saying it was unprovoked agression though.

09-08-2008, 10:08 PM	#13
/win ANBU Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: walking down the road of life Posts: 1,861 My Mood: Rep Power: 11	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia U.S. is not getting involved. i'm glad we're keeping out of something that isn't our business for once. __________________

10-08-2008, 06:22 PM	#15
haydee Special Jounin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,638 Rep Power: 44 Total Awards: 2	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia No shock on this turn of events...with Goergia wanting a ceasefire. Georgia declares cease-fire, wants talks - Russia - MSNBC.com No freaking clue why this even started. But sad as heck to see the poeple caught in the crossfire just becuase some idiots decided they wanted to take over that specific peice of land. __________________ Hitman Reborn from Hana @ LJ

10-08-2008, 08:14 PM	#17
FireSight Chosen of Slaanesh Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,529 My Mood: Rep Power: 14	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia South Ossetians actually want to be part of russia rather than Georgia, and they have basically been unofficially a part of Russia for years... and Georgia decided that they were going to finally take offense to that. Russia has provided visa's for most of the people in that province, and so were a bit ticked off at the attack, and stepped in. __________________ Fallout 3 Anthem Oh, beautiful, for gray-ash skies For guns moun-ted on chains For scor-pi-ons thrash-ing about On ir-radi-ated plains! AMERICA, AMERICA! God sent His Hell to thee! 'Twas for thy good, And so we should Glow bright for all to see!

11-08-2008, 06:15 PM	#18
Bradjune1980 Special Jounin Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Moving to Florida soon! Posts: 3,384 My Mood: Rep Power: 20 Total Awards: 2	Re: Georgia attempts to retake South Ossetia Unofficially? that means its not part of Russia. Just because they gave passports and visas to the citizens does not make the Russian citizens. So all of Russia's claims are Bull. Everyone in this thread needs to go back to school and be re taught what Sovereignty means. When Georgia broke off Ossetia was part of that break off and part of Georgia. Anyone that knows anything about military operations could see that this was planned for months on russias part. They have also been giving weapons to the Ossetian's, and helped the ethnic cleansing in the norther province that was stolen from Georgia. They have also had public officials targeted for assassination by Russia. Georgia had every right to send troops into its own province as a Sovereign nation. Russia has no reason to be in that area at all. Plus they have now advanced beyond the borders of that region and are taking other cities. Your making the victims of Russian aggression, the perpetrators its sick. Anyone in favor of Russian aggression needs to get a clue. The double standards of people are sickening. __________________ http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/in...itle=Main_Page Go here to read japanese light novels. They are the source of many of the shows you love. Last edited by Bradjune1980; 11-08-2008 at 06:17 PM.