The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread - Page 158

PC Chris · 19-11-2008, 02:22 AM

But she represents everything the democrats stand for!!!!! /sarcasm

Gambler · 19-11-2008, 02:26 AM

What?

San Goku · 19-11-2008, 02:26 AM

Are you saying it stops chances for Palin in the senate cause if Steven's won he would loose it right away being a convicted felon and it would go to Palin?

More news, Obama found his new A.G, don't have a link for it.

Gambler · 19-11-2008, 02:39 AM

It wouldn't have gone directly to Palin, but yes Stephens wouldn't be allowed to hold the seat, and Palin could have fought for it (she'd probably win it too, with her name recognition).

krozar · 19-11-2008, 03:37 AM

Glad to see this.

You can't even vote as a convicted felon! Yet, he could have won a Senate seat. Glad sanity ruled.

San Goku · 19-11-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by krozar

Glad to see this.

You can't even vote as a convicted felon! Yet, he could have won a Senate seat. Glad sanity ruled.

lol, this shows that laws just don't apply to the little ppl.

PC Chris · 19-11-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambler

What?

Look back earlier in this thread, I'm paraphrasing what brad said.

krozar · 19-11-2008, 03:54 AM

I know that most State and local offices require being an eligible voter. But the Constitution spells out qualifications for a US Senator:

Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution sets three qualifications for senators: 1) each senator must be at least 30 years old, 2) must have been a citizen of the United States for at least the past nine years, and 3) must be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state they seek to represent.

[...]

The Senate (not the judiciary) is the sole judge of a Senator's qualifications. During its early years, however, the Senate did not closely scrutinize the qualifications of members. As a result, three Senators that were constitutionally disqualified due to age were admitted to the Senate: Henry Clay (aged 29 in 1806), and Armistead Thomson Mason (aged 28 in 1816) and John Eaton (aged 28 in 1818). Such an occurrence, however, has not been repeated since.[15] In 1934, Rush D. Holt, Sr. was elected to the Senate at the age of 29; he waited until he turned 30 to take the oath of office. Likewise, Joe Biden was elected to the Senate shortly before his 30th birthday in 1972; he had passed his 30th birthday by the time the Senate conducted its swearing-in ceremony for that year's electees in January 1973.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution disqualifies from the Senate any federal or state officer who had taken the requisite oath to support the Constitution, but later engaged in rebellion or aids the enemies of the United States. This provision, which came into force soon after the end of the Civil War, was intended to prevent those who sided with the Confederacy from serving. That Amendment, however, also provides a method to remove that disqualification: a two-thirds vote of both chambers of Congress.

San Goku · 19-11-2008, 04:00 AM

WoW, I didn't know age of 30 was openly a qualification an individual must have.

Hanukkah Harry · 19-11-2008, 04:00 AM

If Dems get 60, I'll never stop laughing. I'm not really sure about if being fillibuster proof will be good in the end or not, but just getting it will be hilarious.

Hanukkah Harry · 19-11-2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Goku

WoW, I didn't know age of 30 was openly a qualification an individual must have.

25 for Representative
30 for Senator
35 for President

I think you have to be 40 to be on the Supreme Court, but I'm not sure.

krozar · 19-11-2008, 04:20 AM

With 58 caucusing with the Dems, I am very happy. If Obama shows to be the President as he was a campaigner, then he will get support from some Republicans. Sure, they'll have to give them some pork (funny when the tables are turned that it's the Republicans that want pork, but you'll see) to ensure cloture.

With Obama appealing to his "movement" via his site, txt, and Youtube (where his weekly Presidential address will be shown as well) and his charismatic ability int he media, he'll have a lot of tools at his disposal.

The media is a source of power. Bush was always playing the brute force game and lacked real skills. Now we get to see a President who can use real diplomacy and suavé politics.

It's like going from a Hobbes view of the Sovereign to the Locke view of the Sovereign (if anyone here knows their political thinkers).

Hanukkah Harry · 19-11-2008, 05:27 AM

Hobbes to Locke is a great way of putting it. (I know my political thinkers. 4 on AP Euro last year

)

For those that don't know, Hobbes was a supporter of absolutism, and that the government keeps control over the people, who he thought were naturally evil.

Locke was a supporter of a contract between the government and the people, who he though were naturally good. This was the closest thing to democracy at the time, though democracy had been invented 2000 years before. It kinda disappeared until England got a legislature.

Kickz · 19-11-2008, 11:22 PM

Anyone else lol @ Al-Qaida #2 calling Obama a "house nigger"... The guy must be scared like comedians that he's got nothin to bitch about now that Bush is going.=p

~~Luffy~~ · 19-11-2008, 11:24 PM

anyone get the irony that the cave/sand niggers are calling other people house niggers? lol

Yes that was a joke post, I'm not racist, don't go reporting this...............

PC Chris · 19-11-2008, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kickz

Anyone else lol @ Al-Qaida #2 calling Obama a "house nigger"... The guy must be scared like comedians that he's got nothin to bitch about now that Bush is going.=p

who's number 2?

Gambler · 20-11-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PC Chris

who's number 2?

Except his name has a lot of "Ahks" and "Alibars" in it, and he wears a turban.

San Goku · 20-11-2008, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambler

Except his name has a lot of "Ahks" and "Alibars" in it, and he wears a turban.

lmao win!!

Quote:

Anyone else lol @ Al-Qaida #2 calling Obama a "house nigger"... The guy must be scared like comedians that he's got nothin to bitch about now that Bush is going.=p

When you see someone that epic like Obama that shows now flaws yet, you have to resort to name calling I guess....bitches...

Quote:

anyone get the irony that the cave/sand niggers are calling other people house niggers? lol

Yes that was a joke post, I'm not racist, don't go reporting this...............

yes Tony we know

.....at least I do

EDIT

So what did you all think about the bailout hearing today..... I thought I ask here, may as well I like this thread.

Righteous Judgment · 20-11-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoo

anyone get the irony that the cave/sand niggers are calling other people house niggers? lol

I'm reporting this! its very offensive to arabs/south asians/middle easterners and blacks

19-11-2008, 02:22 AM	#3141
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19-11-2008, 02:26 AM	#3142
Gambler ANBU Aski Champion! Radial Snake Champion! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,185 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread What?

19-11-2008, 02:26 AM	#3143
San Goku Mizukage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chillin with Avon Barksdale and Marlo Stanfield Posts: 14,559 My Mood: Rep Power: 84 Total Awards: 1	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread Are you saying it stops chances for Palin in the senate cause if Steven's won he would loose it right away being a convicted felon and it would go to Palin? More news, Obama found his new A.G, don't have a link for it.

19-11-2008, 02:39 AM	#3144
Gambler ANBU Aski Champion! Radial Snake Champion! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,185 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread It wouldn't have gone directly to Palin, but yes Stephens wouldn't be allowed to hold the seat, and Palin could have fought for it (she'd probably win it too, with her name recognition).

19-11-2008, 03:37 AM	#3145
krozar Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Death City Nevada Posts: 16,427 My Mood: Rep Power: 168 Total Awards: 4	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread Glad to see this. You can't even vote as a convicted felon! Yet, he could have won a Senate seat. Glad sanity ruled. __________________ "I don't know what to do with girls...." - The Futa Crona

19-11-2008, 03:54 AM	#3148
krozar Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Death City Nevada Posts: 16,427 My Mood: Rep Power: 168 Total Awards: 4	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread I know that most State and local offices require being an eligible voter. But the Constitution spells out qualifications for a US Senator: Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution sets three qualifications for senators: 1) each senator must be at least 30 years old, 2) must have been a citizen of the United States for at least the past nine years, and 3) must be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state they seek to represent. [...] The Senate (not the judiciary) is the sole judge of a Senator's qualifications. During its early years, however, the Senate did not closely scrutinize the qualifications of members. As a result, three Senators that were constitutionally disqualified due to age were admitted to the Senate: Henry Clay (aged 29 in 1806), and Armistead Thomson Mason (aged 28 in 1816) and John Eaton (aged 28 in 1818). Such an occurrence, however, has not been repeated since.[15] In 1934, Rush D. Holt, Sr. was elected to the Senate at the age of 29; he waited until he turned 30 to take the oath of office. Likewise, Joe Biden was elected to the Senate shortly before his 30th birthday in 1972; he had passed his 30th birthday by the time the Senate conducted its swearing-in ceremony for that year's electees in January 1973. The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution disqualifies from the Senate any federal or state officer who had taken the requisite oath to support the Constitution, but later engaged in rebellion or aids the enemies of the United States. This provision, which came into force soon after the end of the Civil War, was intended to prevent those who sided with the Confederacy from serving. That Amendment, however, also provides a method to remove that disqualification: a two-thirds vote of both chambers of Congress. __________________ "I don't know what to do with girls...." - The Futa Crona

19-11-2008, 04:00 AM	#3149
San Goku Mizukage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chillin with Avon Barksdale and Marlo Stanfield Posts: 14,559 My Mood: Rep Power: 84 Total Awards: 1	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread WoW, I didn't know age of 30 was openly a qualification an individual must have.

19-11-2008, 04:00 AM	#3150
Hanukkah Harry Medical-nin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: By the time you find me, it'll be too late Posts: 850 Rep Power: 10	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread If Dems get 60, I'll never stop laughing. I'm not really sure about if being fillibuster proof will be good in the end or not, but just getting it will be hilarious. __________________

19-11-2008, 04:20 AM	#3152
krozar Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Death City Nevada Posts: 16,427 My Mood: Rep Power: 168 Total Awards: 4	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread With 58 caucusing with the Dems, I am very happy. If Obama shows to be the President as he was a campaigner, then he will get support from some Republicans. Sure, they'll have to give them some pork (funny when the tables are turned that it's the Republicans that want pork, but you'll see) to ensure cloture. With Obama appealing to his "movement" via his site, txt, and Youtube (where his weekly Presidential address will be shown as well) and his charismatic ability int he media, he'll have a lot of tools at his disposal. The media is a source of power. Bush was always playing the brute force game and lacked real skills. Now we get to see a President who can use real diplomacy and suavé politics. It's like going from a Hobbes view of the Sovereign to the Locke view of the Sovereign (if anyone here knows their political thinkers). __________________ "I don't know what to do with girls...." - The Futa Crona Last edited by krozar; 19-11-2008 at 04:23 AM.

19-11-2008, 05:27 AM	#3153
Hanukkah Harry Medical-nin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: By the time you find me, it'll be too late Posts: 850 Rep Power: 10	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread Hobbes to Locke is a great way of putting it. (I know my political thinkers. 4 on AP Euro last year ) For those that don't know, Hobbes was a supporter of absolutism, and that the government keeps control over the people, who he thought were naturally evil. Locke was a supporter of a contract between the government and the people, who he though were naturally good. This was the closest thing to democracy at the time, though democracy had been invented 2000 years before. It kinda disappeared until England got a legislature. __________________

19-11-2008, 11:22 PM	#3154
Kickz Special Jounin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Akihabara district Posts: 3,598 Rep Power: 28	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread Anyone else lol @ Al-Qaida #2 calling Obama a "house nigger"... The guy must be scared like comedians that he's got nothin to bitch about now that Bush is going.=p __________________ PS3 gametag: Kickzman2 Currently playing; Resistance 2, Call of Duty 5, Valkyria Chronicles, and Fifa '09.

19-11-2008, 11:24 PM	#3155
~~Luffy~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida [305-"Wade" County] Posts: 21,576 Rep Power: 0 Total Awards: 2	Re: The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread anyone get the irony that the cave/sand niggers are calling other people house niggers? lol Yes that was a joke post, I'm not racist, don't go reporting this............... Last edited by Luffy; 19-11-2008 at 11:25 PM.