The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread

krozar · 20-05-2008, 12:32 AM

EDIT:With the permission of the OP, I've changed this thread to be the official 2008 presidential election thread. Anything and everything regarding the 2008 election should go in here, instead of in a new thread.

~Tony

I hit the calculator. If I give Clinton a hefty 30% margin win in Kentucky and Obama a very conservative 10% victory margin in Oregon (should be far higher) it works out like this:

Clench nomination: 2026

Obama: 1958 (68 short)
Clinton: 1772 (254 short)

Remaining Super Delegates: 225

After the Tuesday's count Obama will only need 30% of the share of Super Delegates to win. Clinton receiving 70% will still leave her 96 delegates short of the 2026.

The remaining contests after Tuesday:

Montana: 16 delegates (heavily Obama favored)
South Dakota: 15 delegates (heavily Obama favored)
Puerto Rico: 55 delegates (heavily Clinton favored)

Campaigning is already underway in San Juan in hopes to decrease Clinton's delegate gain there.

Yesterday Obama referred to himself as the Democratic nominee.

Clinton's camp already looking for a way to pay off their $20,000,000 in campaign debt. Obama's campaign has had talks with them in order to assist in this (exchanging money is illegal, but Obama can raise the money seperately).

Primary systems of Oregon and Kentucky:

Kentucky: Closed Primary. 28 day registration deadline. Party switch deadline is Dec. 31, 2007.
Oregon: Closed primary. 21 day registration and switch deadline. (MAIL-IN ONLY. There are no polling places)

To get quick results on Tuesday night:

Kentucky's night tally website:
electionresults.ky.gov - View Election Results

Elections results beginning at 8pm Pacific:
Oregon Secretary of State Elections Division

Hopefully the closed primaries, especially in Kentucky, will put a bit of a damper on Operation Chaos.

Also, Clinton is looking a bit petty though for bashing caucus states. Changing rules after a fact is also called "cheating" in any reasonable standard. His campaign worked hard for the caucus turnout. His tactic paid off.

With only 30% needed after Tuesday, I have a feeling more Supers will declare their candidate.

Kickz · 20-05-2008, 12:36 AM

Congrats to Obama, time to turn focus onto McCain.

*Sparda* · 20-05-2008, 12:37 AM

Puerto Rico can vote? I thought they were just an "Unofficial" state.

Well seems like Obama is on his way to becoming the first black president.

Dking · 20-05-2008, 12:40 AM

Im ignorant about politics, but im guessing this means Obama basically won?

X2thaU · 20-05-2008, 12:40 AM

seriously, this is a disgrace to the democratic party, and to the U.S. govt in general. I hope future candidates learn from this

Nivikran · 20-05-2008, 12:44 AM

YouTube - McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare

obama will crush him.

Kickz · 20-05-2008, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Sparda*

Puerto Rico can vote? I thought they were just an "Unofficial" state.
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They can in the primary but not in the general election.

X2thaU · 20-05-2008, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nivikran

obama will crush him.

you do know that obama is black right?

krozar · 20-05-2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X2thaU

seriously, this is a disgrace to the democratic party, and to the U.S. govt in general. I hope future candidates learn from this

A Hillary supporter?

X2thaU · 20-05-2008, 12:55 AM

no, i was 50-50 on obama/hillary (i'd vote mccain).....but Hilary just needs to stop being a sore loser. She selfish actions are so STUPID. Seriously, what a self serving idiot.

krozar · 20-05-2008, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickzman

They can in the primary but not in the general election.

I am glad they will play a part in this primary because Florida's delegates do not count. Many Puerto Ricans have residency in Florida or have a lot of family in Florida and so they vote by virtual proxy in the general election as it's unconstitutional to allow them to vote in the general election. Their say in a primary is important for the party.

Bonkai Renji · 20-05-2008, 12:58 AM

I hope Obama beats McCain by a far mile because maybe the other nations will stop looking on America as a racist country and that we are not like we use to be 200 years ago.

Nivikran · 20-05-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X2thaU

you do know that obama is black right?

Ya,but mccain resembles bush's actions too much & americans are tired of bush.

It would be funny if Mccain did win..

X2thaU · 20-05-2008, 01:00 AM

lol wtf. who cares what other nations think, we are fucking America

Dking · 20-05-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonkai Renji

I hope Obama beats McCain by a far mile because maybe the other nations will stop looking on America as a racist country and that we are not like we use to be 200 years ago.

But America is a racist country..

X2thaU · 20-05-2008, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nivikran

Ya,but mccain resembles bush's actions too much & americans are tired of bush.

It would be funny if Mccain did win..

what. Obama knows NOTHING about foreign affairs. NOTHING.

Renzo · 20-05-2008, 01:01 AM

we aren't a rascist country if Obama loses..

we are a sensible country.

krozar · 20-05-2008, 01:04 AM

McCain is too wishywashy. Despite Obama's short tenureship in the Senate, I can have more faith on where his policy will stand vesus McCain. McCain has never had a clear and decisive goal, he only cared about campaign ethics after he got caught, and he has lobbyists and special interests running his campaign. He also went after Obama for the possibility of talks with Iran, but 4 years ago McCain said that talks with Iran and Hamas should not be ruled out.

Kickz · 20-05-2008, 01:06 AM

I heard that Bush/Military is planning several air strikes in Iran b4 November vote. Not good for Obama b/c he wants to negotiate w/o force.

20-05-2008, 12:32 AM	#1
krozar Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Death City Nevada Posts: 16,425 My Mood: Rep Power: 168 Total Awards: 4	The Official 2008 U.S Presidential Election Thread EDIT:With the permission of the OP, I've changed this thread to be the official 2008 presidential election thread. Anything and everything regarding the 2008 election should go in here, instead of in a new thread. ~Tony I hit the calculator. If I give Clinton a hefty 30% margin win in Kentucky and Obama a very conservative 10% victory margin in Oregon (should be far higher) it works out like this: Clench nomination: 2026 Obama: 1958 (68 short) Clinton: 1772 (254 short) Remaining Super Delegates: 225 After the Tuesday's count Obama will only need 30% of the share of Super Delegates to win. Clinton receiving 70% will still leave her 96 delegates short of the 2026. The remaining contests after Tuesday: *Montana: 16 delegates (heavily Obama favored) South Dakota: 15 delegates (heavily Obama favored) Puerto Rico: 55 delegates (heavily Clinton favored) Campaigning is already underway in San Juan in hopes to decrease Clinton's delegate gain there. Yesterday Obama referred to himself as the Democratic nominee. Clinton's camp already looking for a way to pay off their $20,000,000 in campaign debt. Obama's campaign has had talks with them in order to assist in this (exchanging money is illegal, but Obama can raise the money seperately). Primary systems of Oregon and Kentucky:* *Kentucky: Closed Primary. 28 day registration deadline. Party switch deadline is Dec. 31, 2007. Oregon: Closed primary. 21 day registration and switch deadline. (MAIL-IN ONLY. There are no polling places) To get quick results on Tuesday night: Kentucky's night tally website: electionresults.ky.gov - View Election Results Elections results beginning at 8pm Pacific: Oregon Secretary of State Elections Division Hopefully the closed primaries, especially in Kentucky, will put a bit of a damper on Operation Chaos. Also, Clinton is looking a bit petty though for bashing caucus states. Changing rules after a fact is also called "cheating" in any reasonable standard. His campaign worked hard for the caucus turnout. His tactic paid off. With only 30% needed after Tuesday, I have a feeling more Supers will declare their candidate. __________________ "I don't know what to do with girls...." - The Futa Crona Last edited by Luffy; 16-06-2008 at 11:46 PM.*

20-05-2008, 12:36 AM	#2
Kickz Special Jounin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Akihabara district Posts: 3,598 Rep Power: 28	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) Congrats to Obama, time to turn focus onto McCain. __________________ PS3 gametag: Kickzman2 Currently playing; Resistance 2, Call of Duty 5, Valkyria Chronicles, and Fifa '09.

20-05-2008, 12:37 AM	#3
Sparda Hunter-nin Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The X-Mansion Posts: 2,808 My Mood: Rep Power: 33	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) Puerto Rico can vote? I thought they were just an "Unofficial" state. Well seems like Obama is on his way to becoming the first black president. __________________

20-05-2008, 12:40 AM	#4
Dking Hunter-nin Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ::::::::::::::::: Posts: 2,934 Rep Power: 23 Total Awards: 1	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) Im ignorant about politics, but im guessing this means Obama basically won? __________________ I'll be on that way left shit Better get right or get left shit Better hit right or get left hit Even if you threw the best pitch Yes bitch

20-05-2008, 12:40 AM	#5
X2thaU Akatsuki Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,314 Rep Power: 53 Total Awards: 2	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) seriously, this is a disgrace to the democratic party, and to the U.S. govt in general. I hope future candidates learn from this __________________

20-05-2008, 12:44 AM	#6
Nivikran Hunter-nin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,704 My Mood: Rep Power: 50 Total Awards: 1	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) YouTube - McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare obama will crush him. __________________

20-05-2008, 12:55 AM	#10
X2thaU Akatsuki Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,314 Rep Power: 53 Total Awards: 2	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) no, i was 50-50 on obama/hillary (i'd vote mccain).....but Hilary just needs to stop being a sore loser. She selfish actions are so STUPID. Seriously, what a self serving idiot. __________________

20-05-2008, 12:58 AM	#12
Bonkai Renji Chuunin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Between Heaven and Hell Posts: 314 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) I hope Obama beats McCain by a far mile because maybe the other nations will stop looking on America as a racist country and that we are not like we use to be 200 years ago. __________________ "I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they would have to say....And that's what no one did."~Marilyn Manson Kurosaki Ichigo FC, , Monkey D.Luffy FC

20-05-2008, 01:00 AM	#14
X2thaU Akatsuki Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,314 Rep Power: 53 Total Awards: 2	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) lol wtf. who cares what other nations think, we are fucking America __________________

20-05-2008, 01:01 AM	#17
Renzo Antennas to Heaven Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newport News Posts: 3,424 My Mood: Rep Power: 23	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) we aren't a rascist country if Obama loses.. we are a sensible country. __________________ The angels in your palm Sing gentle worried songs And the sweetness of our dreams Like mountains made of steam

20-05-2008, 01:04 AM	#18
krozar Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Death City Nevada Posts: 16,425 My Mood: Rep Power: 168 Total Awards: 4	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) McCain is too wishywashy. Despite Obama's short tenureship in the Senate, I can have more faith on where his policy will stand vesus McCain. McCain has never had a clear and decisive goal, he only cared about campaign ethics after he got caught, and he has lobbyists and special interests running his campaign. He also went after Obama for the possibility of talks with Iran, but 4 years ago McCain said that talks with Iran and Hamas should not be ruled out. __________________ "I don't know what to do with girls...." - The Futa Crona

20-05-2008, 01:06 AM	#19
Kickz Special Jounin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Akihabara district Posts: 3,598 Rep Power: 28	Re: Obama will wrap it up tomorrow night (Tue. May 20) I heard that Bush/Military is planning several air strikes in Iran b4 November vote. Not good for Obama b/c he wants to negotiate w/o force. __________________ PS3 gametag: Kickzman2 Currently playing; Resistance 2, Call of Duty 5, Valkyria Chronicles, and Fifa '09.