New Month New Problems - Page 2

**SEXYTIME** · 02-07-2008, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haohmaru

Is that picture supposed to mean something bad??

also donated 50 bucks

notmebug2 · 02-07-2008, 02:46 AM

Why are you not offloading mysql off to a secondary server, I know sites larger than this that run of a Duel core 2ghz 4Gb for webtraffic with a dedicated DB server, (2.2ghz duel 2GB ram)

And since you are at SL the DB servers are cheap as they give them no public bandwidth.

That setup right there would be about $320 / month saving you $280

Also firesight. I know more about this than you, be quiet.

**FireSight** · 02-07-2008, 02:51 AM

Meh, you know more about servers than me, I'll admit, but your rudeness is inexcusable.

On the other hand, I'm the guy who can get your internet connection turned off if I find your IP, and it would be entirely legal... well... if you live in the USA, anyways.

Horray for working for ISPs.

*edit* I wouldn't do that though, that's just jackassery. And I'm working on my server knowledge... but my local college fucked up the courses and changed the server configuration course into a damned intro to linux course without telling any of us beforehand! Grah!

**Kakashi** · 02-07-2008, 02:51 AM

Two servers, two points of failure. Not only would I need a Raid setup on the main HTTP Server but one for the DB as well. Furthermore double the licenses and management. Besides 2GB Ram for a database which in itself is over 2GB is size is not enough. Clearly acting smart isn't working out for you but feel free to come at another angle

notmebug2 · 02-07-2008, 02:57 AM

So you are claiming the setup's for forums larger than yours, with both more forum activity and web traffic are wrong.

I am basing my claims on the published invoices of another site. They handle more traffic via alexa and more active users via the bottom of the page.

**Kakashi** · 02-07-2008, 03:07 AM

Well I don't believe you know the history of this website or how much it's gone through to remain up after all these years. There is a degree of felxibility on the server which allows it to withstand attacks and not crumble over at the first sign. Not all other forums go through that.

Furthermore we have one of the most active and largest anime galleries, and other anime websites on this server which I am not going to disclose. What I am Trying to say is judging the strain on the server from active users is ignorant. Not only that you have no idea how many queries and modificaitons are present on the forums, nor do you know about the way the modified version of this forums is displayed to users.

Handling traffic is one thing. This server could handle millions upon millions of users if it were a static webpage. Unfortunately that is not the case. Behind each login and refresh of the page complex scripts take place which identify normal users from botnets. Records are kept of IP addressess, frequency of those IP's, point of access and resources accessed by that IP and then a decision is made on what type of page is shown.

To you a novice it seems like you click on refresh and voila the page appears. That couldn't be further from the truth.

Anyways I've answered enough of your queries.

~~The One~~ · 02-07-2008, 03:33 AM

notme, you just got pwned.

hopefully i can get $20 from my paycheck, moms being a stickler on money...making me save a lot...

ifeanyi84 · 02-07-2008, 07:38 AM

yup...got you on the donation. i'm on the site often enough, that i think it's worth it.

Korbei · 02-07-2008, 11:36 AM

I donate as much as I can monthly but money is tight atm. I did donate yesterday, It just hasnt gone through yet :(

zero0saiyan · 02-07-2008, 11:40 PM

Hey how are ya Kakashi,

I was trying to get a hold of ya earlier but if i may introduce EC suite to you thats the company i work for and, see where we can help.

I have been going over your site and see that you use PayPal, Not to put PayPal down. You do know that are people who can use PayPal and have you ever thought of using a another processor to handle your transactions. Because what if there is someone trying to sign-up but can't use PayPal.Thats where your secondary would come in and handle that transaction for you.

Let me know what you think.

-Zero0Saiyan-

**SEXYTIME** · 02-07-2008, 11:43 PM

yeah kakashi if u accepted other ways to donate such as personal checks and credit cards you would probably make a lot more in donations. A lot of people dont like paypal.

4thseal · 03-07-2008, 01:48 AM

^the forum does accept personal checks and other forms of payments via mail.

If the site were to accept credit card payments, kakashi would have to set up some sort of merchant gate way, which would still cost money each month.

**SEXYTIME** · 03-07-2008, 01:56 AM

true but it would be a question of how much profit being able to take credit cards could bring to the site after merchant account costs

4thseal · 03-07-2008, 02:10 AM

I see your point and I don't know enough about merchant gateways to know the exact cost on merchant accounts, but i assume that it'd be costly to take payments from various parts of the world, to solve the problem mentioned a few post above about not being able to use paypal. So, i see why kakashi would stick with paypal alone for online transactions if the cost does not out wiegh the return, especially as paypal does take credit card payments and such.

**SEXYTIME** · 03-07-2008, 02:23 AM

some times paypal freezes accounts for no reason

CloudX1 · 03-07-2008, 07:15 AM

Donated 10 $ all i can do ATM thanks for the good work

**Kakashi** · 03-07-2008, 08:01 AM

The site does accept all credit card payments. Simply select that you don't have a paypal account and you will be given that option.

Paypal is our credit card processor as well.

**SEXYTIME** · 03-07-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakashi

The site does accept all credit card payments. Simply select that you don't have a paypal account and you will be given that option.

Paypal is our credit card processor as well.

you're freaking simply amazing lol even tho i do use paypal to donate and is that u in your avatar

b@st@rd · 03-07-2008, 01:29 PM

This thread makes me lol @ the technical discussions.

zero0saiyan · 03-07-2008, 05:27 PM

As i mention before EC Suite it can act as an another processor to handle the transactions, we only charge 4.9%+$1.00 USD per transaction. ecsuite.com is out main site.

Kakashi take a look and tell me what you think. As far as any charges the 4.9%+$1.00 USD is all we charge and there is nothing else.

you can try us out and cancel at any time.

-Zero0Saiyan-

02-07-2008, 02:46 AM	#22
notmebug2 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems Why are you not offloading mysql off to a secondary server, I know sites larger than this that run of a Duel core 2ghz 4Gb for webtraffic with a dedicated DB server, (2.2ghz duel 2GB ram) And since you are at SL the DB servers are cheap as they give them no public bandwidth. That setup right there would be about $320 / month saving you $280 Also firesight. I know more about this than you, be quiet.

02-07-2008, 02:51 AM	#23
FireSight Chosen of Slaanesh Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,512 My Mood: Rep Power: 14	Re: New Month New Problems Meh, you know more about servers than me, I'll admit, but your rudeness is inexcusable. On the other hand, I'm the guy who can get your internet connection turned off if I find your IP, and it would be entirely legal... well... if you live in the USA, anyways. Horray for working for ISPs. edit I wouldn't do that though, that's just jackassery. And I'm working on my server knowledge... but my local college fucked up the courses and changed the server configuration course into a damned intro to linux course without telling any of us beforehand! Grah! __________________ Fallout 3 Anthem Oh, beautiful, for gray-ash skies For guns moun-ted on chains For scor-pi-ons thrash-ing about On ir-radi-ated plains! AMERICA, AMERICA! God sent His Hell to thee! 'Twas for thy good, And so we should Glow bright for all to see! Last edited by FireSight; 02-07-2008 at 02:52 AM.

02-07-2008, 02:51 AM	#24
Kakashi Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London , UK Posts: 5,721 My Mood: Rep Power: 666	Re: New Month New Problems Two servers, two points of failure. Not only would I need a Raid setup on the main HTTP Server but one for the DB as well. Furthermore double the licenses and management. Besides 2GB Ram for a database which in itself is over 2GB is size is not enough. Clearly acting smart isn't working out for you but feel free to come at another angle __________________

02-07-2008, 02:57 AM	#25
notmebug2 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems So you are claiming the setup's for forums larger than yours, with both more forum activity and web traffic are wrong. I am basing my claims on the published invoices of another site. They handle more traffic via alexa and more active users via the bottom of the page.

02-07-2008, 03:07 AM	#26
Kakashi Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London , UK Posts: 5,721 My Mood: Rep Power: 666	Re: New Month New Problems Well I don't believe you know the history of this website or how much it's gone through to remain up after all these years. There is a degree of felxibility on the server which allows it to withstand attacks and not crumble over at the first sign. Not all other forums go through that. Furthermore we have one of the most active and largest anime galleries, and other anime websites on this server which I am not going to disclose. What I am Trying to say is judging the strain on the server from active users is ignorant. Not only that you have no idea how many queries and modificaitons are present on the forums, nor do you know about the way the modified version of this forums is displayed to users. Handling traffic is one thing. This server could handle millions upon millions of users if it were a static webpage. Unfortunately that is not the case. Behind each login and refresh of the page complex scripts take place which identify normal users from botnets. Records are kept of IP addressess, frequency of those IP's, point of access and resources accessed by that IP and then a decision is made on what type of page is shown. To you a novice it seems like you click on refresh and voila the page appears. That couldn't be further from the truth. Anyways I've answered enough of your queries. __________________

02-07-2008, 03:33 AM	#27
~~The One~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 3,235 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems notme, you just got pwned. hopefully i can get $20 from my paycheck, moms being a stickler on money...making me save a lot...

02-07-2008, 07:38 AM	#28
ifeanyi84 Hunter-nin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lying underneath the underneath. Posts: 2,830 My Mood: Rep Power: 12	Re: New Month New Problems yup...got you on the donation. i'm on the site often enough, that i think it's worth it.

02-07-2008, 11:36 AM	#29
Korbei Medical-nin Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 594 My Mood: Rep Power: 9	Re: New Month New Problems I donate as much as I can monthly but money is tight atm. I did donate yesterday, It just hasnt gone through yet :(

02-07-2008, 11:40 PM	#30
zero0saiyan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 0 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems Hey how are ya Kakashi, I was trying to get a hold of ya earlier but if i may introduce EC suite to you thats the company i work for and, see where we can help. I have been going over your site and see that you use PayPal, Not to put PayPal down. You do know that are people who can use PayPal and have you ever thought of using a another processor to handle your transactions. Because what if there is someone trying to sign-up but can't use PayPal.Thats where your secondary would come in and handle that transaction for you. Let me know what you think. -Zero0Saiyan-

02-07-2008, 11:43 PM	#31
SEXYTIME Donator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,171 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: New Month New Problems yeah kakashi if u accepted other ways to donate such as personal checks and credit cards you would probably make a lot more in donations. A lot of people dont like paypal.

03-07-2008, 01:48 AM	#32
4thseal the Brown Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Never separate me from these stars... Posts: 10,958 My Mood: Rep Power: 56	Re: New Month New Problems ^the forum does accept personal checks and other forms of payments via mail. If the site were to accept credit card payments, kakashi would have to set up some sort of merchant gate way, which would still cost money each month. __________________ Now Available! (cover by DarkDays) Exposed #14: Read & Comment

03-07-2008, 01:56 AM	#33
SEXYTIME Donator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,171 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: New Month New Problems true but it would be a question of how much profit being able to take credit cards could bring to the site after merchant account costs

03-07-2008, 02:10 AM	#34
4thseal the Brown Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Never separate me from these stars... Posts: 10,958 My Mood: Rep Power: 56	Re: New Month New Problems I see your point and I don't know enough about merchant gateways to know the exact cost on merchant accounts, but i assume that it'd be costly to take payments from various parts of the world, to solve the problem mentioned a few post above about not being able to use paypal. So, i see why kakashi would stick with paypal alone for online transactions if the cost does not out wiegh the return, especially as paypal does take credit card payments and such. __________________ Now Available! (cover by DarkDays) Exposed #14: Read & Comment Last edited by 4thseal; 03-07-2008 at 02:12 AM.

03-07-2008, 02:23 AM	#35
SEXYTIME Donator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,171 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: New Month New Problems some times paypal freezes accounts for no reason

03-07-2008, 07:15 AM	#36
CloudX1 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems Donated 10 $ all i can do ATM thanks for the good work

03-07-2008, 08:01 AM	#37
Kakashi Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London , UK Posts: 5,721 My Mood: Rep Power: 666	Re: New Month New Problems The site does accept all credit card payments. Simply select that you don't have a paypal account and you will be given that option. Paypal is our credit card processor as well.

03-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#39
b@st@rd [--Beer--] Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,229 Rep Power: 92	Re: New Month New Problems This thread makes me lol @ the technical discussions. __________________

03-07-2008, 05:27 PM	#40
zero0saiyan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 0 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: New Month New Problems As i mention before EC Suite it can act as an another processor to handle the transactions, we only charge 4.9%+$1.00 USD per transaction. ecsuite.com is out main site. Kakashi take a look and tell me what you think. As far as any charges the 4.9%+$1.00 USD is all we charge and there is nothing else. you can try us out and cancel at any time. -Zero0Saiyan-