#3 hokage vs 4 tail naruto.

[Yedi]

I think this fight would be really interesting, whom would win?

[Holy Cowboy]

Number 3 hokage can do the death god jutsu. Making this fight null.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

Number 3 hokage can do the death god jutsu. Making this fight null.

But would he use and would he be able to pull out the ninetails? he had problem with Orichimaru so I wouldn't say that the 4th tail would face serious problem if he used it.

[Holy Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Yedi

But would he use and would he be able to pull out the ninetails? he had problem with Orichimaru so I wouldn't say that the 4th tail would face serious problem if he used it.

Nevermind that the two used 50 billion jutsus and what not already before doing death god jutsu and that Number 3 had to use KBs to seal the other two bodies in that after said 50 billion jutsus were used.

Fine details basically say this battle is null.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

Nevermind that the two used 50 billion jutsus and what not already before doing death god jutsu and that Number 3 had to use KBs to seal the other two bodies in that after said 50 billion jutsus were used.

Fine details basically say this battle is null.

You disregard the Kyubis chakra. If now the fourth tail kyubi can play around with Chakra as it was air I don't see the problem even if the 3rd hokage haven't used any jujutsu before that. Addition to this do you really think that the Kyubi would let him get close? If Orichimaru had a really had time to get close to the 4 tail Naruto then the 3rd Hokage would have a real hard time to get close too.

[Holy Cowboy]

Someone is conveniently forgetting about Minato. Also, Oro didn't have a hard time getting up close. He chose to have a mainly long range battle.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

Someone is conveniently forgetting about Minato. Also, Oro didn't have a hard time getting up close. He chose to have a mainly long range battle.

Forgetting about Minato? what am I forgetting about Minato? it is never stated that he used the death god Jujutsu to seal the Kyubi. Why do you think Oro did choose a long range battle? just because he liked to be in long range? -.- it is simply because he didn't want to approach and get sliced.

[NarutoSamaman]

Originally Posted by Yedi

Forgetting about Minato? what am I forgetting about Minato? it is never stated that he used the death god Jujutsu to seal the Kyubi. Why do you think Oro did choose a long range battle? just because he liked to be in long range? -.- it is simply because he didn't want to approach and get sliced.

? I think it's probably the most well known fact that he used it to seal the nine tails hence why he also died as a result. Regarding some earlier posts about the 3rd using the death god jutsu=win, I don't see how sacrificing one's self is a win in a battle in this context. It's a stalemate.

We are assuming he isn't battling to save the village(then you could say he won) but a 1 on 1 fight it'd be a draw at best, or he'd lose.

[Holy Cowboy]

Thank you Narutosamaman. I didn't say Hokage would win. Just that it would make this battle null, pointless, however you wanna put it. This makes me wonder if Yedi is reading the same manga as us ( if at all ), or just watching the anime. Here is also a wiki entry for the death god jutsu for the time being.

"
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
The Dead Demon Consuming Seal (屍鬼封尽, Shiki Fūjin?, English TV: "Sealing Jutsu: Reaper Death Seal") is a seal created by the Fourth Hokage that invokes the powers of the death god (shinigami, simply dubbed the "reaper" in the English version). Once called upon, the death god hovers behind the user and remains invisible to the opponent until it has grasped their soul. After the sealing is completed the death god consumes the user's soul soon afterwards, killing them. Once a soul has been eaten it resides within the death god's stomach, destined to do battle with its fellow souls for all eternity.[27]
Unlike many of the other seals used throughout the series, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal has served different purposes for each of its uses. When first used by the Fourth, it aided in sealing the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox within Naruto Uzumaki. When later used by the Third Hokage's shadow clones, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal sealed the souls of the First and Second Hokage within the clones' bodies. In this instance, the death god consumed the Hokage's souls in addition to the souls of the clones, suggesting that it consumes whatever souls are present within the user's body. When the actual Third Hokage uses the seal, it sealed Orochimaru's arms, preventing their use. "

Please keep in mind that when Naruto ( the anime character cast of ) battles are done, the manga ( and databooks ) is what is used for reference, not the anime.

edit- thanks to cane for confirming it in the naruto manga section. So for the third time, this battle is null, pointless whatever. How many times is it gonna need to be said?

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

Thank you Narutosamaman. I didn't say Hokage would win. Just that it would make this battle null, pointless, however you wanna put it. This makes me wonder if Yedi is reading the same manga as us ( if at all ), or just watching the anime. Here is also a wiki entry for the death god jutsu for the time being.

"
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
The Dead Demon Consuming Seal (屍鬼封尽, Shiki Fūjin?, English TV: "Sealing Jutsu: Reaper Death Seal") is a seal created by the Fourth Hokage that invokes the powers of the death god (shinigami, simply dubbed the "reaper" in the English version). Once called upon, the death god hovers behind the user and remains invisible to the opponent until it has grasped their soul. After the sealing is completed the death god consumes the user's soul soon afterwards, killing them. Once a soul has been eaten it resides within the death god's stomach, destined to do battle with its fellow souls for all eternity.[27]
Unlike many of the other seals used throughout the series, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal has served different purposes for each of its uses. When first used by the Fourth, it aided in sealing the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox within Naruto Uzumaki. When later used by the Third Hokage's shadow clones, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal sealed the souls of the First and Second Hokage within the clones' bodies. In this instance, the death god consumed the Hokage's souls in addition to the souls of the clones, suggesting that it consumes whatever souls are present within the user's body. When the actual Third Hokage uses the seal, it sealed Orochimaru's arms, preventing their use. "

Please keep in mind that when Naruto ( the anime character cast of ) battles are done, the manga ( and databooks ) is what is used for reference, not the anime.

edit- thanks to cane for confirming it in the naruto manga section. So for the third time, this battle is null, pointless whatever. How many times is it gonna need to be said?

Stop bring in wikipedia into this. I accept that I was wrong and seemingly I must have misread it. But if now Orichimaru could survive the death god Jujutsu the Kyubi can and you argument is pointless.

[Holy Cowboy]

Wikipedia ( and other sources like it ) are brought in for a quickened reference to specific details. So yeah it is gonna be brought it into most any fight in the battle arena if needed. Now for the fine details. Oro was resisting quite a bit ( who wouldn't ). However, the main contribution for that incident was the 3rd's life giving out before the jutsu could be completed ( chakra, injuries, etc. ) so the 3rd had the death god do something different in exchange for his soul.

Minato could have asked the death god to kill the Kyuubi. However, he requested the death god to seal part of the kyuubi into Naruto and other parts into toad scroll. All of this being covered in the manga.

Translation: Kyuubi dies. 3rd Hokage dies. Making ( for the fourth time of telling ) this battle null, pointless, etc.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

Wikipedia ( and other sources like it ) are brought in for a quickened reference to specific details. So yeah it is gonna be brought it into most any fight in the battle arena if needed. Now for the fine details. Oro was resisting quite a bit ( who wouldn't ). However, the main contribution for that incident was the 3rd's life giving out before the jutsu could be completed ( chakra, injuries, etc. ) so the 3rd had the death god do something different in exchange for his soul.

Minato could have asked the death god to kill the Kyuubi. However, he requested the death god to seal part of the kyuubi into Naruto and other parts into toad scroll. All of this being covered in the manga.

Translation: Kyuubi dies. 3rd Hokage dies. Making ( for the fourth time of telling ) this battle null, pointless, etc.

The thing with wikepedia is that you shouldn't copy paste it and always be critical on the information, but this is not a matter now, just remember it in the future.

1. So you say that Oros damages would be greater then those the Kyubi would cause before the 3rd grabbed onto the 4 tail Naruto? and I also would like to correct that the Chakra which he would grab onto is corresive, so I don't see the problem with him freeing from the jujutsu.

2. It is a sealing technique not an instant kill technique, therefore 4t tail Naruto won't be killed when he grabs onto him.

3. I have stated my reason why it won't be so above.

[Holy Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Yedi

1. The thing with wikepedia is that you shouldn't copy paste it and always be critical on the information, but this is not a matter now, just remember it in the future.

2. So you say that Oros damages would be greater then those the Kyubi would cause before the 3rd grabbed onto the 4 tail Naruto? and I also would like to correct that the Chakra which he would grab onto is corresive, so I don't see the problem with him freeing from the jujutsu.

3. It is a sealing technique not an instant kill technique, therefore 4t tail Naruto won't be killed when he grabs onto him.

4. I have stated my reason why it won't be so above.

1. Wikipedia was quickest reference I could think of for information on the jutsu. When it comes series like Naruto where there is an anime and a manga to it, one is considered canon while the other isn't to an extent. Fine details like the death god jutsu and the abilities 9tails has, have to be taken into consideration. Cane confirmation post and Narutosamaman's shows this.

2. 3rd was holding onto Oro to keep him from getting away ( something he can't afford given his current body condition at the time, remaining chakra at the time, and the cost of the jutsu ). I would like to correct that the chakra may be corrosive to the 3rd if he touches it, but it wouldn't mean jack to the shinigami.

3. I never said that the death god jutsu was an instant kill technique. However, it is more than a sealing technique. It is whatever the user wants it to be provided they pay the price. Also, who said that the 3rd had to grab onto someone for it to work? 4tail Naruto will be killed if the jutsu is completed as intended.

4. I have stated my reason why i will be so above ( fifth time of telling ). Fine details are against you, dude. Sorry.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy

1. Wikipedia was quickest reference I could think of for information on the jutsu. When it comes series like Naruto where there is an anime and a manga to it, one is considered canon while the other isn't to an extent. Fine details like the death god jutsu and the abilities 9tails has, have to be taken into consideration. Cane confirmation post and Narutosamaman's shows this.

2. 3rd was holding onto Oro to keep him from getting away ( something he can't afford given his current body condition at the time, remaining chakra at the time, and the cost of the jutsu ). I would like to correct that the chakra may be corrosive to the 3rd if he touches it, but it wouldn't mean jack to the shinigami.

3. I never said that the death god jutsu was an instant kill technique. However, it is more than a sealing technique. It is whatever the user wants it to be provided they pay the price. Also, who said that the 3rd had to grab onto someone for it to work? 4tail Naruto will be killed if the jutsu is completed as intended.

4. I have stated my reason why i will be so above ( fifth time of telling ). Fine details are against you, dude. Sorry.

1. well let leave this out of the question from now on.

2. Keeping Oro from getting away? Oro couldn't move when the jujutsu comenced, so how could he get away? -.- You commence the sealing by putting your hands on the persons shoulder. So you agree that chakra is corrosive? then the 3rd hokage would still be getting damaged while he tries to pull out the soul and it might lead to killing him, and the deathgod isn't the person whom does the jujutsu.

3. And were is it stated that it is more then a sealing technique? and whom says you don't need to hold onto the person for it too work? we have seen the jujutsu three times and every time the person hold onto the other person, so it more likely my statement is correct.

4. Fine details? I wouldn't call your statements fine detailed.

[zack_strife]

Personally i don't think that you need to hold onto the guys shoulders or anything, as the 4th would have been disintergrated if he tried to grap hold of the Kyuubi, i mean its made out of pure chakra that burns and acts like a poison.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by UCHIHA-NARUTO

Personally i don't think that you need to hold onto the guys shoulders or anything, as the 4th would have been disintergrated if he tried to grap hold of the Kyuubi, i mean its made out of pure chakra that burns and acts like a poison.

As everyone should know the Kyubi wasn't pure chakra when the 4th grabbed onto him -.- the 4th sealed the actual Biju.

[Sasori da God]

^ where the fuck did you get that from

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Sasori da God

^ where the fuck did you get that from

Me? I did get it from the intro were we actually see the Biju in his( or her) physical body.

[Sasori da God]

aka a FILLER, meaning its non cannon

[zack_strife]

^ Thanks Sasori ^_^ It is quite common knowledge that all bijuu are made up of pure chakra which is so heavily densed that it appears as a physical form.