3rd Hokage (in his Prime) Vs Pain

[bluelion7342]

Now that we have seen Pains abilities (or most of them) how would he fair against the professor?

Chances are the 3rd will have to summon Enma to help fight the 6 pains. Not to mention he taught the sannin and has an extensive knowledge on the happenings of Konoha and was around during its early years. His knowledge of bloodline limits, techniques, experience make him incredibly formidable.

will he stand a chance against Pain?

IMO he can more than stand up against him. Pain would really be pushed to his boundaries in fighting Sarutobi.

thoughts?

[bluewingedD]

Pain was pushed to his limits fighting Jairya. He would do the same thing to the 3rd as he did to jairya. Start off with one body then three. After thos three are killed, bring out the other three for a sneak attack. Revive the other three that were killed, and comense to taken down the already worn down 3rd.

[bluelion7342]

true. but you have to admit that once Enma was summoned the 3rd and enma took down to kages much easier.

3rd in his prime could make more efficien clones to fight the pains. its a tough call.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by bluelion7342

true. but you have to admit that once Enma was summoned the 3rd and enma took down to kages much easier.

3rd in his prime could make more efficien clones to fight the pains. its a tough call.

the kage clones are much much weaker then the original, also when he makes clones each clone is weakened, but all of pains bodies are full powered.

[GiantMidget]

That won't work because There are 6 pains and if he uses six KB he will lose even faster because he can't afford to split his strength between 6 beings, while all 6 of Pains bodies are 100%, if he uses the death reaper thing, Pain ca merely stab him with his black chakra sword fucking up his chakra control therefore releasing the technique.

[bluelion7342]

i guess it depends if pain is one soul or not. Which i think he is, except just one soul that somehow is using 6 or now 5 bodies.


when the 3rd did that technique it was pitch black. now way the rinnegan would be able to share vision if everyone is seeing black.

enma is good to at least fight half the pains by himself.

we still dont really know of that many of pains techniques. other than summoning and but the 3rd knows pretty much all known techniques in konoha.

i dont think pain could take on the 3rd in his prime.

[bluewingedD]

it was pitch black because of the 1st hokage's genjutsu, not because of the death god technique, the 3rd wouldn't be able to hit with that attack. while pain has the rinnegan, and he would have to take out all si of the body's at the same time. He wouldn't win with that technique, even if he did, he wouldn't be the winner it would be a tie. but he won't connect with that attack.

[bluelion7342]

oh yea, i forgot that that wasnt the thirds tecnique it was the 1st hokages move. bear in mind though that the 3rd reaction time will bemuch better than when he was older, so where he to grab one pain or the main pain he could quickly pull out the soul. or kinda do the same that thing he did with orochimaru.

but that attack would be more so a trump card. since it exchanges souls with the user.

[HITMAN OF KONOHA]

pain said that the only reason they defeated jiraiya was because of their secret. If pain uses the same strategy against the 3rd it would be difficult for the 3rd. I say the 3rd might win because he is in his prime during the fight so his chakra level is much higher than when he fought orochimaru. If all else fails I say pull out the eight gates for the win.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by HITMAN OF KONOHA

pain said that the only reason they defeated jiraiya was because of their secret. If pain uses the same strategy against the 3rd it would be difficult for the 3rd. I say the 3rd might win because he is in his prime during the fight so his chakra level is much higher than when he fought orochimaru. If all else fails I say pull out the eight gates for the win.

No, he said he might have lost if he had kept his identity as a secret meaning he had to bring out more then 3 bodies which gave away the secret.
the 3rd would wasted all his energy be revives them and be fating 3 bodies then he reveals the other 3 and be at 100% and crubstomps the third with his black swords disabling his gates if he even has them.

[bluelion7342]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

No, he said he might have lost if he had kept his identity as a secret meaning he had to bring out more then 3 bodies which gave away the secret.
the 3rd would wasted all his energy be revives them and be fating 3 bodies then he reveals the other 3 and be at 100% and crubstomps the third with his black swords disabling his gates if he even has them.

true. but the 3rd was a lot sharper than jiraiya. He still outsmarted orochimaru in his old age. I can only imagine how sharp he would be against Pain. The only disadvantage the 3rd has is that he didnt train nagato, yahiko or konan so he wouldnt know their back story.

but seeming that jiraiya knew about the 6 paths sage, im pretty sure the 3rd will know too. I think the 3rd in his prime would do well enough against Pain to win.

[ifeanyi84]

considering that sarutobi would not know pain's secret, he would probably just meet the same fate as jiraiya.

[eddieson]

Pein would most likely when this cause I don't even think that he was really trying in his fight with Jiraiya until around the end of the fight.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by bluelion7342

true. but the 3rd was a lot sharper than jiraiya. He still outsmarted orochimaru in his old age. I can only imagine how sharp he would be against Pain. The only disadvantage the 3rd has is that he didnt train nagato, yahiko or konan so he wouldnt know their back story.

but seeming that jiraiya knew about the 6 paths sage, im pretty sure the 3rd will know too. I think the 3rd in his prime would do well enough against Pain to win.

Where does it say the third is more powerful then Jiraiya? Itachi and Kisame avoids fighting Jiriaya and they didn't even know about his hermit mode yet, all the third is known for is knowing alot of jutsus and just knowing alot doesn't mean shit. Gambunta>Enma too, If pain can curbstomp Jiraiya that easily when all 6 is out The third has no chance.

[bluelion7342]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Where does it say the third is more powerful then Jiraiya? Itachi and Kisame avoids fighting Jiriaya and they didn't even know about his hermit mode yet, all the third is known for is knowing alot of jutsus and just knowing alot doesn't mean shit. Gambunta>Enma too, If pain can curbstomp Jiraiya that easily when all 6 is out The third has no chance.

it must mean something because he was chosen as hokage at a young age. To be fair pain was kinda struggling when it was 3 on 1, he had to bring out the entire 6 to take down jiraiya. Because jiraiya did effectively kill 3 of them before that 4th one revived them. that genjutsu f'ed pain up pretty badly.

[GiantMidget]

I wouldn't say obviously, he knew that he could revive the 3 bodies, so he wasn't as cautious thats a given. 4 bodies was all he needed to over power jiraiya in hermit mode, all 6 can wtfpwn the third.

[Azn]

^ Yea..

This is so obvious. Pain is godly, and has the rinnegan eye. The 3rd is just a normal man that has talent. The 6 pain will be able to take down the 3rd easily.

[GiantMidget]

Yea pain isnt bullshitting when he claims he's god.

[Uchihaeyez]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Yea pain isnt bullshitting when he claims he's god.

No.

God is soppose to be a perfect, there is no trick to beating God.


Pein says that if jiraiya had known his secret then he would'nt have stood a chance.

Above anything else Pein is a ninja, and he can be beaten, he stated so himself, he is no immortal.

[Sasuke's Legacy]

^ Lulz, no offense but I don't think he meant it that literally.

He can be beaten, he's not immortal as far as we know...

But I do think he will win. Simply because Jiraiya couldn't figure out the secret after being his teacher, so how could Sarutobi?