Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] - Page 10

Girfinkle1 · 09-01-2008, 10:46 PM

well if he had fainted he would be dead but if hes pushed too far or uses the mangekyo and fails hes done for

GiantMidget · 09-01-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Girfinkle1

well if he had fainted he would be dead but if hes pushed too far or uses the mangekyo and fails hes done for

but he has never given out during a battle before, he even used the MS multiple times in battle, kakashi has much more stamina and chakra then you think

Girfinkle1 · 09-01-2008, 11:43 PM

no i know how much stamina and chakra he heas the evidence is the kazuku battle but sasuke has more. he has summoned the manda used 7 chidoris the cs2 a giant snake summon and the his speed

GiantMidget · 09-01-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Girfinkle1

no i know how much stamina and chakra he heas the evidence is the kazuku battle but sasuke has more. he has summoned the manda used 7 chidoris the cs2 a giant snake summon and the his speed

More stamina and chakra doesn't matter when kakashi can beat him before that this battle isn't going to drawn out like the last one, all of DD's attacks takes time to use and he stays away from Sasuke dragging out the fight. Naruto has more chakra then kakashi as well, it doesn't mean he will beat him. Kakashi used the MS multiple times against DD, itachi got tired after 2 MS uses.

Girfinkle1 · 10-01-2008, 12:11 AM

itachi got tired kakashi got hospitalized for a week big difference. and i disagree this battle will be long.kakashi won't be stupid enough to use the ms and kakashi won't be able to use the chidori on sasuke unless sasuke is unable to defend. sasuke can just flash out of kakashis way. this would have to be a long battle and it probably will happen. i actuall think kakashi will be killed by sasuke and thats how sasuke will end up dieing. naruto will no longer hesitate to hurt sasuke and theres the final fight of the manga.

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantMidget

More stamina and chakra doesn't matter when kakashi can beat him before that this battle isn't going to drawn out like the last one, all of DD's attacks takes time to use and he stays away from Sasuke dragging out the fight. Naruto has more chakra then kakashi as well, it doesn't mean he will beat him. Kakashi used the MS multiple times against DD, itachi got tired after 2 MS uses.

Actually while i do think kakashi would beat sasuke, he makes a good point on the whole stamina thing.

With sasuke's speed kakashi would be forced to use his sharingan to keep up with his movements, and then all sasuke would have to do is evade attack as his chakra slowly wears down.

Kakashi would probably figure out a way to counter this, but that is a good strategy tho.

bluewingedD · 10-01-2008, 12:17 AM

And there in lies your ignorance on this subject. Thank you, for giving me a reason why not to take any more of your post seriouly. Lightening blade and MS, have very little to do with Kakashi's victory. Seeing that Kakashi knows over 1000 jutsu, some of them will most likely be wind element, which gives him a big advantage over Sasuke, Kakashi, is more experenced then Sasuke. his sharigan is more develope, the only thing Sasuke has over kakashi is a little more speed, and a little more chakra. And the only reason that Kakashi was hospitalized was because he's using the ultimate form, of a KG, form a clan he's not even from. Of course his body is going to have some draw backs.

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 12:26 AM

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And there in lies your ignorance on this subject. Thank you, for giving me a reason why not to take any more of your post seriouly. Lightening blade and MS, have very little to do with Kakashi's victory. Seeing that Kakashi knows over 1000 jutsu, some of them will most likely be wind element, which gives him a big advantage over Sasuke, Kakashi, is more experenced then Sasuke. his sharigan is more develope, the only thing Sasuke has over kakashi is a little more speed, and a little more chakra. And the only reason that Kakashi was hospitalized was because he's using the ultimate form, of a KG, form a clan he's not even from. Of course his body is going to have some draw backs.

LOL. Here lies my ignorance? How about you go back a few pages, and read how everything you just stated about kakashi was already said by me.

I simply aknowledged Sasuke's large amount of chakra has an advantage.

Lol that was way too funny.

You take none of MY post seriousley?

Your whole post was an echo of the last 4 pages.

Girfinkle1 · 10-01-2008, 12:40 AM

blue wingedD do u not understand the sharingan? it can mimick attacks and since kakashi doesn't have a bloodling all of kakashis attacks can be mimicked and since sasuke has more ninjutsu and stamina he can keep it up longer than kakashi can.
i h8 how people say kakashis sharingan is more developed than sasukes. sasuke has mastered the sharingan proir to the ms completely kakashi isn't going to use the ms so thats not an issue and sasuke has uchiha blood so if anything the sharingan is in sasukes favor

GiantMidget · 10-01-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Girfinkle1

blue wingedD do u not understand the sharingan? it can mimick attacks and since kakashi doesn't have a bloodling all of kakashis attacks can be mimicked and since sasuke has more ninjutsu and stamina he can keep it up longer than kakashi can.
i h8 how people say kakashis sharingan is more developed than sasukes. sasuke has mastered the sharingan proir to the ms completely kakashi isn't going to use the ms so thats not an issue and sasuke has uchiha blood so if anything the sharingan is in sasukes favor

Do you understand the sharingan? it can mimic attacsk but ir has nothing to do with the bloodline of the oponenet.
More ninjutsu? kakashi has over 1000 techniques and there are bound to be wind techniques.
Keeping up longer will do no good when you die before that, kakashi might have less stamina, but there was never an instance that kakashi has run out of stamina and couldn't keep fighting in the middle of a fight.
Maybe because kakashis is more developed? kakashi has had the sharingan for sasukes whole life, Sasuke was taught by kakashi for a while about his sharingan, then taught by someone who barely knows anything about the sharingan for 2.5 years til this point today where does it stated that his sharingan is as developed as kakashi or if he mastered it more then kakashi?

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Do you understand the sharingan? it can mimic attacsk but ir has nothing to do with the bloodline of the oponenet.
More ninjutsu? kakashi has over 1000 techniques and there are bound to be wind techniques.
Keeping up longer will do no good when you die before that, kakashi might have less stamina, but there was never an instance that kakashi has run out of stamina and couldn't keep fighting in the middle of a fight.
Maybe because kakashis is more developed? kakashi has had the sharingan for sasukes whole life, Sasuke was taught by kakashi for a while about his sharingan, then taught by someone who barely knows anything about the sharingan for 2.5 years til this point today where does it stated that his sharingan is as developed as kakashi or if he mastered it more then kakashi?

Well we'll definetly know if his mastery of sharingan is on itachi's level, so i guess we'll just have to wait till then to actually anwser

GiantMidget · 10-01-2008, 03:22 AM

Yea, but kakashi is no less a genius of Itachi, he has been training his sharingan for the past 2.5 years as well and even manage to achieve MS.

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 03:25 AM

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Yea, but kakashi is no less a genius of Itachi, he has been training his sharingan for the past 2.5 years as well and even manage to achieve MS.

Itachi's been training with his sharingan for 12 years, and has had his MS for about 6.

Using the logic you used, kakashi's not on his level.

GiantMidget · 10-01-2008, 03:36 AM

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Itachi's been training with his sharingan for 12 years, and has had his MS for about 6.

Using the logic you used, kakashi's not on his level.

Yea, but he should be above sasuke, but grinfkle says he's even below Sasuke.

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 03:44 AM

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Yea, but he should be above sasuke, but grinfkle says he's even below Sasuke.

idunnoe, i think it seems like sasuke is because he relays on his sharingan constantly, and spams genjutsu so much it seems like's really adept at it. But kakashi doesnt use it as much or rely on it as much so it seems like he's not that great at it.

But i dont really know who is.

Azn · 10-01-2008, 03:51 AM

Sasuke doesnt spam genjutsus. Right now, if im correct, he has level 3 sharingan. But yea, he does use it in almost every single fight he's been in.

Uchihaeyez · 10-01-2008, 03:52 AM

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Sasuke doesnt spam genjutsus. Right now, if im correct, he has level 3 sharingan. But yea, he does use it in almost every single fight he's been in.

He spams is almost as much as Itachi does.

ifeanyi84 · 10-01-2008, 12:15 PM

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1 is settled than riaki= chidori
4 i don't know how u see the itachi kakashi battle as kakashi keeping up with itachi kakashi got owned in every aspect of that fight don't even try to play it off as them being equal. not only that but kakashi even stated that itachi wasn't even at full strength.
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next time post something u'll actually stand by. naruto hadn't seen any of the other characters since they were genin sohis statement was completely made up nor did he know the depths of any of the characters abilities so we can't go by his stetement. while we can go by kakashis stement of saying naruto is stronger than him because kakashi knows his own abilities greater than any1 else does. but we fans don't agree with that becuase we don't want to. (myself included)
7 try doing this for me look out both eyes than cover 1 up... ur periferal vision is nowhere near as good
9 kakashi is the creater and sasuke is the successor once again the chidori is the riaki the name change when he cut a lighningbolt in half thats the only difference. sasuke can do whatever he wants with it and has taken down 2 kage level opponents hes demonstrated kage level abilities.

this numbers shit is annoying but here goes:
1)i've addressed this. raikiri is not chidori. go to the databook and see that they are listed as separate jutsu of different ranks.
4)when did kakashi state that itachi wasnt at full strength?
6)what are you talking about? are you arguing just to argue? i said what i stand by. kakashi is much smarter and much more experienced than sasuke. at the time of that quote, what naruto said was true. kiba has shown improvement with his sense of smell, but that doesnt change the fact that kakashi has a brain like shikamaru and thus is much smarter than sasuke. you started this number stuff, and now you're acting like you dont even remember the points you were tryin to make. get it together.
7)whatever...notice how i said you'll see the same thing in front of you. that has nothing to do with periphery. depth perception is all about what is in front of you, because the stuff in front of you is the only thing you actually see with both eyes. on the periphery you only see out of one eye at a time anyway, so it doesnt matter. and plus, with these fake eyes like byakugan and sharingan, it might not even be a issue.
9)raikiri and chidori are two separate jutsu. raikiri is better than chidori. deal with it. if you think i'm just saying that, go look it up.

bluewingedD · 10-01-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchihaeyez

LOL. Here lies my ignorance? How about you go back a few pages, and read how everything you just stated about kakashi was already said by me.

I simply aknowledged Sasuke's large amount of chakra has an advantage.

Lol that was way too funny.

You take none of MY post seriousley?

Your whole post was an echo of the last 4 pages.

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Girfinkle. I always, have respect for your post, because you can listen to reason and admitt when your wrong.

Girfinkle1 · 10-01-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Do you understand the sharingan? it can mimic attacsk but ir has nothing to do with the bloodline of the oponenet.
More ninjutsu? kakashi has over 1000 techniques and there are bound to be wind techniques.
Keeping up longer will do no good when you die before that, kakashi might have less stamina, but there was never an instance that kakashi has run out of stamina and couldn't keep fighting in the middle of a fight.
Maybe because kakashis is more developed? kakashi has had the sharingan for sasukes whole life, Sasuke was taught by kakashi for a while about his sharingan, then taught by someone who barely knows anything about the sharingan for 2.5 years til this point today where does it stated that his sharingan is as developed as kakashi or if he mastered it more then kakashi?

bbloodline does affect the sharingan because the sharingan can't copy bloodline moves. and u don't understand what i'm trying to say if kakashi uses a air attack sasuke can just mimic it. cancleing out all of kakashis jutsus so the types of jutsus one knows isn't an issue. also if kakashi uses an air jutsu sasuke will just use a fire jutsu. they both know eachothers jutsus through the sharingan. if kakashi uses giant water dragon why wouldn't sasuke?
alright theres a limit to how much of the sharingan kakashi can master without being a true decendant of the bloodline. sort of like sasuke can't use the cs as well as juugo can. thats a given. and sasuke knows the has been shown to use the full extent of the sharingan he can even enter peoples minds on them and spam genjutsus kakashi can't do that.

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Originally Posted by ifeanyi84

this numbers shit is annoying but here goes:
1)i've addressed this. raikiri is not chidori. go to the databook and see that they are listed as separate jutsu of different ranks.
4)when did kakashi state that itachi wasnt at full strength?
6)what are you talking about? are you argui

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09-01-2008, 10:46 PM	#181
Girfinkle1 Chuunin Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 371 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] well if he had fainted he would be dead but if hes pushed too far or uses the mangekyo and fails hes done for

09-01-2008, 11:43 PM	#183
Girfinkle1 Chuunin Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 371 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] no i know how much stamina and chakra he heas the evidence is the kazuku battle but sasuke has more. he has summoned the manda used 7 chidoris the cs2 a giant snake summon and the his speed

10-01-2008, 12:11 AM	#185
Girfinkle1 Chuunin Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 371 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] itachi got tired kakashi got hospitalized for a week big difference. and i disagree this battle will be long.kakashi won't be stupid enough to use the ms and kakashi won't be able to use the chidori on sasuke unless sasuke is unable to defend. sasuke can just flash out of kakashis way. this would have to be a long battle and it probably will happen. i actuall think kakashi will be killed by sasuke and thats how sasuke will end up dieing. naruto will no longer hesitate to hurt sasuke and theres the final fight of the manga.

10-01-2008, 12:17 AM	#187
bluewingedD Hunter-nin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: under your bed Posts: 2,401 My Mood: Rep Power: 11	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] And there in lies your ignorance on this subject. Thank you, for giving me a reason why not to take any more of your post seriouly. Lightening blade and MS, have very little to do with Kakashi's victory. Seeing that Kakashi knows over 1000 jutsu, some of them will most likely be wind element, which gives him a big advantage over Sasuke, Kakashi, is more experenced then Sasuke. his sharigan is more develope, the only thing Sasuke has over kakashi is a little more speed, and a little more chakra. And the only reason that Kakashi was hospitalized was because he's using the ultimate form, of a KG, form a clan he's not even from. Of course his body is going to have some draw backs. __________________

10-01-2008, 12:40 AM	#189
Girfinkle1 Chuunin Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 371 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] blue wingedD do u not understand the sharingan? it can mimick attacks and since kakashi doesn't have a bloodling all of kakashis attacks can be mimicked and since sasuke has more ninjutsu and stamina he can keep it up longer than kakashi can. i h8 how people say kakashis sharingan is more developed than sasukes. sasuke has mastered the sharingan proir to the ms completely kakashi isn't going to use the ms so thats not an issue and sasuke has uchiha blood so if anything the sharingan is in sasukes favor

10-01-2008, 03:22 AM	#192
GiantMidget Jounin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York,Brooklyn Posts: 4,878 My Mood: Rep Power: 16	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] Yea, but kakashi is no less a genius of Itachi, he has been training his sharingan for the past 2.5 years as well and even manage to achieve MS. __________________ ^Project #22329

10-01-2008, 03:51 AM	#196
Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,383 My Mood: Rep Power: 25	Re: Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers] Sasuke doesnt spam genjutsus. Right now, if im correct, he has level 3 sharingan. But yea, he does use it in almost every single fight he's been in.