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Old 13-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #61
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bold1) where does it say dd was flying as fast as he could?
Bold 2) Naruto Manga Returns
bold 3)Naruto Manga Returns pay attention to the part where he says as long as one has the sharingan they can put up resistance to the mangekyo than he says the move he was about to use was different
bold 4) pay attention to the (s) Naruto Manga Returns
wtf, of course he was flying as fast as he could there is a fucking black hole next to him, if someone was shooting at you would you slowly try to walk away?

And thia proves what? that DD who doesnt have the MS got use to his speed so kakashi who has the Ms can't track his movements now? Seriously ifeany is right, these scenes only discredit you arguments lol

key word is " some" resistance his ms, and also he says only a person with the true uchiha blood can defeat him, saying that the true uchiha blood can somewhat resist the tsukyomi and if they are strong enough they can beat him, also why the fuck does that even matter? so Since sasuke has the sharingan hes resistance to limb severing black holes now?

orochimarus healing abilities? that only helps him recover faster after battles, not instant regeneration like tsunade or naruto.

also how you know he's 10 puul?
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wtf, of course he was flying as fast as he could there is a fucking black hole next to him, if someone was shooting at you would you slowly try to walk away?

And thia proves what? that DD who doesnt have the MS got use to his speed so kakashi who has the Ms can't track his movements now? Seriously ifeany is right, these scenes only discredit you arguments lol

key word is " some" resistance his ms, and also he says only a person with the true uchiha blood can defeat him, saying that the true uchiha blood can somewhat resist the tsukyomi and if they are strong enough they can beat him, also why the fuck does that even matter? so Since sasuke has the sharingan hes resistance to limb severing black holes now?

orochimarus healing abilities? that only helps him recover faster after battles, not instant regeneration like tsunade or naruto.

also how you know he's 10 puul?
lol...that's funny as hell. i guess because sasuke's an uchiha, the sharingan let's him control the fabric of reality too. i tried to look at dude's profile and i didnt see his age. him being 10 is probably the only way all of his arguments actually make sense to me.
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I coulda sworn that Sasuke, with his Sharingan, already got messed up by MS Tsukuyomi when he attacked Itachi in that Inn pre timeskip...

Clearly Sharingan doesnt afford you complete immunity regardless of if you are an uchiha.
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wtf, of course he was flying as fast as he could there is a fucking black hole next to him, if someone was shooting at you would you slowly try to walk away?

And thia proves what? that DD who doesnt have the MS got use to his speed so kakashi who has the Ms can't track his movements now? Seriously ifeany is right, these scenes only discredit you arguments lol

key word is " some" resistance his ms, and also he says only a person with the true uchiha blood can defeat him, saying that the true uchiha blood can somewhat resist the tsukyomi and if they are strong enough they can beat him, also why the fuck does that even matter? so Since sasuke has the sharingan hes resistance to limb severing black holes now?

orochimarus healing abilities? that only helps him recover faster after battles, not instant regeneration like tsunade or naruto.

also how you know he's 10 puul?
alright dude u assume way too much dd was clearly focusing on the black hole not the speed at which he was going
2 if itachi say it gives some resistance to the ms than it does dude prolly makes the attack weaker, less acurate u don't know. what we do know is it was stated that the sharingan and uchiha blood resists the mangekyo
3 so what kakashi has the mangekyo in the time it takes him to prep it up hes dead dude to the speed at which this battle would take place.
he has abilities and most of oros jutsus knowledge plus oro taught him fighting tequniqes oro has many abilities and hes bound to have more

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lol...that's funny as hell. i guess because sasuke's an uchiha, the sharingan let's him control the fabric of reality too. i tried to look at dude's profile and i didnt see his age. him being 10 is probably the only way all of his arguments actually make sense to me.
if u can't understand me i bet ur 10 cause others seem to, its called school dude

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I coulda sworn that Sasuke, with his Sharingan, already got messed up by MS Tsukuyomi when he attacked Itachi in that Inn pre timeskip...

Clearly Sharingan doesnt afford you complete immunity regardless of if you are an uchiha.
no itachi didn't use it on sasuke while sasuke had the sharingan also sasuke doesn't need immunity against kakashis mangekyo cause kakashi would never be able to use it on sasuke so i don't know why u guys think its such an advantage
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Yes, Itachi DID use it on Sasuke while he had the Sharingan... I gave an example.
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alright dude u assume way too much dd was clearly focusing on the black hole not the speed at which he was going
2 if itachi say it gives some resistance to the ms than it does dude prolly makes the attack weaker, less acurate u don't know. what we do know is it was stated that the sharingan and uchiha blood resists the mangekyo
3 so what kakashi has the mangekyo in the time it takes him to prep it up hes dead dude to the speed at which this battle would take place.
he has abilities and most of oros jutsus knowledge plus oro taught him fighting tequniqes oro has many abilities and hes bound to have more


if u can't understand me i bet ur 10 cause others seem to, its called school dude


no itachi didn't use it on sasuke while sasuke had the sharingan also sasuke doesn't need immunity against kakashis mangekyo cause kakashi would never be able to use it on sasuke so i don't know why u guys think its such an advantage
What? dude his arm was being ripped off, he would be retarded to not fly as fast as he could to get away.

It only gives some resistance to itachis tsuykyomi because it requires eye contact ,but it doesn't prevent sasukes arms and legs from being ripped off by kakashi black holes, also what you mean it takes long for him to prepare it? it activates in an instant, the black hole merely just takes a long time to sever something, but onces it on you it won't leave until something is ripped off, also sasuke speed doesn't prevent kakashi from not being able to catch him with a non projectile long range attack attack especially not from his MS which can easily track sasukes fast movements, sasukes speed only seems so godly is because everyone hes fought doesn't have the sharingan.
Its a huge advantage because Sasukes speed becomes irrelevant to the fight since kakashi also possesses the sharingan and can track his speed and match it with his gates if not even faster, sasuke has only been so godly so far because of his speed gap between his oponents.

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What? dude his arm was being ripped off, he would be retarded to not fly as fast as he could to get away.

It only gives some resistance to itachis tsuykyomi because it requires eye contact ,but it doesn't prevent sasukes arms and legs from being ripped off by kakashi black holes, also what you mean it takes long for him to prepare it? it activates in an instant, the black hole merely just takes a long time to sever something, but onces it on you it won't leave until something is ripped off, also sasuke speed doesn't prevent kakashi from not being able to catch him with a non projectile long range attack attack especially not from his MS which can easily track sasukes fast movements, sasukes speed only seems so godly is because everyone hes fought doesn't have the sharingan.
Its a huge advantage because Sasukes speed becomes irrelevant to the fight since kakashi also possesses the sharingan and can track his speed and match it with his gates if not even faster, sasuke has only been so godly so far because of his speed gap between his oponents.

no, going by your grammar, your the one who needs school.
even if your right u don't think sasuke would attack hit while doing this? i don't know what chapter he says it or the chapter he breaks of with naruto so i won't provide a link be he preps it for a while Naruto Manga Returns is where he finally brings it out and i beliee the last time we see the 2 is when he says he was preping the jutsus. i also don't think it takes so long to materialize because that only happens in the anime and the anime always drags things out....also in the pages after the link notice how dd doesn't change speed all he does isturn around lean back and his arms gone.... no run for the win bullseye none of that shit he turns around!
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alright dude u assume way too much dd was clearly focusing on the black hole not the speed at which he was going
2 if itachi say it gives some resistance to the ms than it does dude prolly makes the attack weaker, less acurate u don't know. what we do know is it was stated that the sharingan and uchiha blood resists the mangekyo
3 so what kakashi has the mangekyo in the time it takes him to prep it up hes dead dude to the speed at which this battle would take place.
he has abilities and most of oros jutsus knowledge plus oro taught him fighting tequniqes oro has many abilities and hes bound to have more


if u can't understand me i bet ur 10 cause others seem to, its called school dude


no itachi didn't use it on sasuke while sasuke had the sharingan also sasuke doesn't need immunity against kakashis mangekyo cause kakashi would never be able to use it on sasuke so i don't know why u guys think its such an advantage
you cant be serious. do you even read your posts? you, out of all people shouldnt be talking about school. you clearly need additional schooling. dont say that others seem to understand you. if you sincerely believe that, then you havent been paying attention to other people's posts in which they are telling you that you arent making sense or listening to reason. when itachi used his MS on sasuke the second time, sasuke had his sharingan. it was right after sasuke charged at him with the chidori. if you dont even know that sasuke had sharingan at that point, then what makes you think that are should be offering an opinion on how sasuke would fare in a battle?

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even if your right u don't think sasuke would attack hit while doing this? i don't know what chapter he says it or the chapter he breaks of with naruto so i won't provide a link be he preps it for a while Naruto Manga Returns is where he finally brings it out and i beliee the last time we see the 2 is when he says he was preping the jutsus. i also don't think it takes so long to materialize because that only happens in the anime and the anime always drags things out....also in the pages after the link notice how dd doesn't change speed all he does isturn around lean back and his arms gone.... no run for the win bullseye none of that shit he turns around!
i'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. it's a little amusing that you would make a statement about understanding and schooling and then turn around and post this. you should probably read your stuff before you post. this whole thing is nonsense. and i dont see how you could make an argument that deidara wasnt flying away as fast as he could. even if he was just trying to separate the team and draw them away from sasori, he had to have been flying fast enough to actually lead them away.
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even if your right u don't think sasuke would attack hit while doing this? i don't know what chapter he says it or the chapter he breaks of with naruto so i won't provide a link be he preps it for a while Naruto Manga Returns is where he finally brings it out and i beliee the last time we see the 2 is when he says he was preping the jutsus. i also don't think it takes so long to materialize because that only happens in the anime and the anime always drags things out....also in the pages after the link notice how dd doesn't change speed all he does isturn around lean back and his arms gone.... no run for the win bullseye none of that shit he turns around!
No because from what we have seen sasuke is very cocky and will let their opponents use their jutsus like DD he could easily interrupt every one of DDs attacks, but he didn't he let him finish it.
there was only 1 panel showing his prepare it, thats would have taken as long as you think, and i doubt kakashi would turn it on as soon as the fight commenced, because sasuke moves with shunsin jutsus kinda like shunpo in bleach which requires you to stop for an instant before starting again and thats the moment where kakashi will activate it.
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tru. i think that sasuke, without shuinshin is only about as fast as lee and neji. kakashi was already faster than both of them. if anything, i would rate kakashi's speed above sasuke and say that kakashi wouldnt have much of a problem gettin sasuke. kakashi's ms doesnt take that long to use, because he was able to use it on deidara's explosion which had caught them all by surprise anyway.
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you cant be serious. do you even read your posts? you, out of all people shouldnt be talking about school. you clearly need additional schooling. dont say that others seem to understand you. if you sincerely believe that, then you havent been paying attention to other people's posts in which they are telling you that you arent making sense or listening to reason. when itachi used his MS on sasuke the second time, sasuke had his sharingan. it was right after sasuke charged at him with the chidori. if you dont even know that sasuke had sharingan at that point, then what makes you think that are should be offering an opinion on how sasuke would fare in a battle?

i'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. it's a little amusing that you would make a statement about understanding and schooling and then turn around and post this. you should probably read your stuff before you post. this whole thing is nonsense. and i dont see how you could make an argument that deidara wasnt flying away as fast as he could. even if he was just trying to separate the team and draw them away from sasori, he had to have been flying fast enough to actually lead them away.
how can u make the arguement theres no proof in the increase of speed and if all u have on me now is grammar than remove urself from this arguement.

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tru. i think that sasuke, without shuinshin is only about as fast as lee and neji. kakashi was already faster than both of them. if anything, i would rate kakashi's speed above sasuke and say that kakashi wouldnt have much of a problem gettin sasuke. kakashi's ms doesnt take that long to use, because he was able to use it on deidara's explosion which had caught them all by surprise anyway.
english moves pls i'm not that big of a nerd i don't research all of the moves...u have to realize that kakashi wasn't sasukes teacher for 2.5 years....oro was and oro is responcible for the speed change true he didn't use it on the exploding diedra but he had already prepared it so i think what he had to do was focus his chakra on his eyes i also don't think that kakashi would use the ms on sasuke because it takes a major toll on him and he'd realise the risk isn't worth the reward

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No because from what we have seen sasuke is very cocky and will let their opponents use their jutsus like DD he could easily interrupt every one of DDs attacks, but he didn't he let him finish it.
there was only 1 panel showing his prepare it, thats would have taken as long as you think, and i doubt kakashi would turn it on as soon as the fight commenced, because sasuke moves with shunsin jutsus kinda like shunpo in bleach which requires you to stop for an instant before starting again and thats the moment where kakashi will activate it.
also notice the time gap between the 2 kakashi started preparing it before the battle and didn't finish till after
since i don't know what a shunsin is i'm gonna forgetabout it right now sasuke wasn't cocky he wanted to capture dd not kill him and dd was flying so he really couldn't cancle out the jutsus.
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how can u make the arguement theres no proof in the increase of speed and if all u have on me now is grammar than remove urself from this arguement.


english moves pls i'm not that big of a nerd i don't research all of the moves...u have to realize that kakashi wasn't sasukes teacher for 2.5 years....oro was and oro is responcible for the speed change true he didn't use it on the exploding diedra but he had already prepared it so i think what he had to do was focus his chakra on his eyes i also don't think that kakashi would use the ms on sasuke because it takes a major toll on him and he'd realise the risk isn't worth the reward


also notice the time gap between the 2 kakashi started preparing it before the battle and didn't finish till after
since i don't know what a shunsin is i'm gonna forgetabout it right now sasuke wasn't cocky he wanted to capture dd not kill him and dd was flying so he really couldn't cancle out the jutsus.
it aint about grammar. if grammar was the only issue with that post, then it wouldnt be that bad. the post just doesnt make sense. unless i could read your mind there's no way i can figure out what you meant to say. and for you to say what you said, means that you clearly dont read. i didnt say anything about grammar. what i said is most of what you said is unintelligible and the rest of it is just wrong. what you said is funny though. did i strike a nerve when i told you that you dont know what you're talking about and you should stop posting?

shuishin no jutsu is body flicker, and just as a reminder, body flicker is not yondaime's flying thunder god jutsu. if kakashi and sasuke are fighting and he has to use ms he will use it. most likely he's gonna try to kill him without, but if he has to use it he will.

sasuke is always cocky, until he realizes he's outclassed. prime examples: orochimaru in the forest of death, the brief fight with lee.
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it aint about grammar. if grammar was the only issue with that post, then it wouldnt be that bad. the post just doesnt make sense. unless i could read your mind there's no way i can figure out what you meant to say. and for you to say what you said, means that you clearly dont read. i didnt say anything about grammar. what i said is most of what you said is unintelligible and the rest of it is just wrong. what you said is funny though. did i strike a nerve when i told you that you dont know what you're talking about and you should stop posting?

shuishin no jutsu is body flicker, and just as a reminder, body flicker is not yondaime's flying thunder god jutsu. if kakashi and sasuke are fighting and he has to use ms he will use it. most likely he's gonna try to kill him without, but if he has to use it he will.

sasuke is always cocky, until he realizes he's outclassed. prime examples: orochimaru in the forest of death, the brief fight with lee.
no u didn't strike a nerve and thx
ur post pretty much said that sasuke is classy until out matched which is true...
be he also gets serious if he realizes that theres a threat...
u can't include the fight with lee because it was a vote fight and orochimaru sasuke never tried to be classy in it was him running than he fought because he realized that was the only way out.
and if sasuke uses the body flicker there is no way kakashi would catch him with the mangekyo...so kakashi would never use it so take that out of ur arguement guys cause kakashi would never get it wo work effectively
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of course Kakashi can use the MS, it only takes an instant to activated it and the 3 tomoe sharingan is good enough to track sasukes movements.
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of course Kakashi can use the MS, it only takes an instant to activated it and the 3 tomoe sharingan is good enough to track sasukes movements.
ur a total idiot dude while having the ms kakashi doesn't have the 3 tamatoe...hes in the middle of using a jutsu....plus sasuke could go behind him and than it would be a total waste....kakashis smart enough not to use it the risk is too great
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Kakashi can first use the gates then MS then Sasuke can't get behind him then
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Kakashi can first use the gates then MS then Sasuke can't get behind him then
hahahaha kakashi's aim is bad enough standing still better yet moving that fast assuming he has the gates...
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Old 15-11-2007, 09:59 PM   #78
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There is no assumption that he can open gates. It blatantly happened. If you dont believe it you're just an idiot blinded by fanboyism.
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really pls if sasuke ever says release than he has gates...u guys say that kakashi has em off of kakashi jumping over a rock after saying release...u don't know it gave him super human strength u don't even know how far he jumped all u know is he said release...u guys need more proff than that.
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no u didn't strike a nerve and thx
ur post pretty much said that sasuke is classy until out matched which is true...
be he also gets serious if he realizes that theres a threat...
u can't include the fight with lee because it was a vote fight and orochimaru sasuke never tried to be classy in it was him running than he fought because he realized that was the only way out.
and if sasuke uses the body flicker there is no way kakashi would catch him with the mangekyo...so kakashi would never use it so take that out of ur arguement guys cause kakashi would never get it wo work effectively
i understand sasuke gets serious, that's one of the things i like about him. i was just pointing out that he is a cocky dude. in the forest, he was kinda cocky when orochimaru first showed up. when orochimaru posed as naruto and sasuke uncovered the trick, sasuke seemed cocky until orochimaru revealed that he wasnt naruto and froze sasuke with his killer intent. after that was when sasuke got shook and started running.

kakashi has the sharingan of course he would have no problem tracking sasuke's body flicker. he would probably be able to track it even with his normal eye. kakashi is fast after all, and the body flicker is a just fast body movements. he would definitely have no problem tracking with his 3 tomoe sharingan or his mangekyou sharingan.

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ur a total idiot dude while having the ms kakashi doesn't have the 3 tamatoe...hes in the middle of using a jutsu....plus sasuke could go behind him and than it would be a total waste....kakashis smart enough not to use it the risk is too great
why do you keep saying 3 tamatoes? it's mad funny. i dont get what you're saying. what do you mean he's in the middle of a jutsu? i'm not sure how or why you think that sasuke would just all of a sudden get behind kakashi in a fight.
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