Kakashi vs Sasuke [spoilers]

[Easybigboi]

With all this talk about 'is Sasuke kage level?' and 'kakashi is a worthy candidate for hokage' who do you think would win if they were pitted against each other?

[GiantMidget]

I'd go with kakashi, he still has the MS while sasuke doesn't, 1000 jutsus and within those 1000 jutsus he must have some wind jutsus to counter sasukes lighting jutuss and for his fire jutsus kakashi has water jutsus that we have seen already., and way more experience.

[ANBUelite]

Yea As far as we know kakashi with the MS would school Sasuke. Although i think Sasuke is the fastest in the narutoverse right now.

[mangekyosasuke]

u have got to be kiding me sasuke could blow by kakashi and i guess every1 who doesn't have the ms loses to kakashi now right because he has the ms and he has over 1000 jutsus so he can't be beaten.
well let me break it down kakashis best jutsu was given to sasuke when sasuke was 12-13 now hes 15 hes minipulated it far passed kakashi ever could not only that but sasuke has speed and the ms doesn't work on other sharingan wielders. sasuke also has a greater jutsu than the chidori that hes saving for itachi when it comes to this battle its all sasuke. no doubt it would be a good fight but get serious

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by mangekyosasuke

u have got to be kiding me sasuke could blow by kakashi and i guess every1 who doesn't have the ms loses to kakashi now right because he has the ms and he has over 1000 jutsus so he can't be beaten.
well let me break it down kakashis best jutsu was given to sasuke when sasuke was 12-13 now hes 15 hes minipulated it far passed kakashi ever could not only that but sasuke has speed and the ms doesn't work on other sharingan wielders. sasuke also has a greater jutsu than the chidori that hes saving for itachi when it comes to this battle its all sasuke. no doubt it would be a good fight but get serious

The thing is Sasukes speed is only a problem to non sharingan users the sharingan users can read his movements, and with that wind and water jutsus will take out sasuke easy, i mean the elements play a big role just look at deidara vs sasuke his lighting chakra rendered his bombs useless.

[dragonfrost]

uMMMMMMMM he copied rocklees moves ..... ... kakashi is strong and all dont get me wrong, but i doubt that he could take sasuke at this point in the manga. Even one talks about the ms sharigan that kakashi has but no one notices that kakashi still cant inter people minds like sasuke can even with out the ms. Its been said before, and ill say it again in the world of ninja speed is god, and kakashi doesn't thave the speed of susuke. He also as stated by him self he doesn't have as much chakra as sasuke either. Kakashi's ms is a trump card, it he uses it twice and misses twice that the end of him. The chance of him missing a attack are much higher seeing how susuke can easily read his attack and has the speed to avoid thim. Farther more sausake has been training with orochumaru for the last 3 years and even when has far as to kill the guy, and i have no doubt in saying no one here think that kakashi could have beat orochumaru.

those that say kakashi can beat sausake are ignorant to the manga. And haven't been paying attention to the fact that naurto, sausake, and sakura are all played of as the new sainins... jounin < sainin.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by dragonfrost

uMMMMMMMM he copied rocklees moves ..... ... kakashi is strong and all dont get me wrong, but i doubt that he could take sasuke at this point in the manga. Even one talks about the ms sharigan that kakashi has but no one notices that kakashi still cant inter people minds like sasuke can even with out the ms. Its been said before, and ill say it again in the world of ninja speed is god, and kakashi doesn't thave the speed of susuke. He also as stated by him self he doesn't have as much chakra as sasuke either. Kakashi's ms is a trump card, it he uses it twice and misses twice that the end of him. The chance of him missing a attack are much higher seeing how susuke can easily read his attack and has the speed to avoid thim. Farther more sausake has been training with orochumaru for the last 3 years and even when has far as to kill the guy, and i have no doubt in saying no one here think that kakashi could have beat orochumaru.

those that say kakashi can beat sausake are ignorant to the manga. And haven't been paying attention to the fact that naurto, sausake, and sakura are all played of as the new sainins... jounin < sainin.

yes i know they are gonna be the new sannins, but as of right now its not like they are already sannin level, also kakashi also has the Sharingan and the MS so i doubt sasuke can enter his mind. Plus he copied rock lees movements and his taijutsus we have yet to see him copy jutsus, plus kakashis wind and water jutsus will negate Sasukes lighting and fire. sasuke sakura and naruto is obviously gonna be way stronger then jiraiya tsunade orochimaru and kakashi and the other people but in the future, they are just not there yet right now.

[*Sparda*]

People are idiot enough to forget that it takes Kakashi a LONG time to prepare the MS sharingan. Sasuke is'nt going to wait around for that...

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by Mr. Rogers

People are idiot enough to forget that it takes Kakashi a LONG time to prepare the MS sharingan. Sasuke is'nt going to wait around for that...

Deidaras bombs took a long timeas well, yet Sasuke let Deidara create them all,Why is that? Kakashi doesnt take that long either, its the process of taking yuor entire body part that takes long and even if that doesnt happen, the pull of that vortex already messes your your movements if it doesnt take an arm or two.

[duhduhduh]

Originally Posted by mangekyosasuke

u have got to be kiding me sasuke could blow by kakashi and i guess every1 who doesn't have the ms loses to kakashi now right because he has the ms and he has over 1000 jutsus so he can't be beaten.
well let me break it down kakashis best jutsu was given to sasuke when sasuke was 12-13 now hes 15 hes minipulated it far passed kakashi ever could not only that but sasuke has speed and the ms doesn't work on other sharingan wielders. sasuke also has a greater jutsu than the chidori that hes saving for itachi when it comes to this battle its all sasuke. no doubt it would be a good fight but get serious

Wow, another sasuke fanboy. Kakashi's best jutsu is not the chidori, it is just his only original jutsu. Also, Sasuke has not manipulated it past Kakashi's level yet. Kakashi's version of the chidori is more powerful than Sasuke's. There is a reason why Sasuke's version of the chidori is not called raikiri.
As for the fact the the MS does not work on other sharingan users, I seem to have a vague memory of Uchiha Itachi using it on Sasuke, after which sasuke had to spend a couple weeks in a hospital room.
That "Greater Jutsu" you have mentioned, is there any proof whatsoever that it is stronger than chidori?
Also, sasuke seems to have gotten quite fast over the timeskip yes, but I recall a scene in which kakashi was copying rock lee's five gate opening. Something tells me that the five gates are still faster than sasuke's new speed.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by duhduhduh

Wow, another sasuke fanboy. Kakashi's best jutsu is not the chidori, it is just his only original jutsu. Also, Sasuke has not manipulated it past Kakashi's level yet. Kakashi's version of the chidori is more powerful than Sasuke's. There is a reason why Sasuke's version of the chidori is not called raikiri.
As for the fact the the MS does not work on other sharingan users, I seem to have a vague memory of Uchiha Itachi using it on Sasuke, after which sasuke had to spend a couple weeks in a hospital room.
That "Greater Jutsu" you have mentioned, is there any proof whatsoever that it is stronger than chidori?
Also, sasuke seems to have gotten quite fast over the timeskip yes, but I recall a scene in which kakashi was copying rock lee's five gate opening. Something tells me that the five gates are still faster than sasuke's new speed.

The gates speed is faster, with the gates lee was able to hit gaara then move to the other side and hit him again multiples simutaneously repeatedly.

[Poncho Sama]

Isn't Sasuke better at chidori than Kakashi, Sasuke can cast genjutsu now, plus he has a true sharigan.

[Sasori da God]

Originally Posted by ANBUelite

Yea As far as we know kakashi with the MS would school Sasuke. Although i think Sasuke is the fastest in the narutoverse right now.

i dunno man,think you left someone out like,Itachi you know da guy sasuke wants ta kill,even if hes somehow faster like Itachi breaks his legs and sasuke takes chojis red pill,Itachi still has mangekyo a.k.a. sussune or watever da teleprtation jutsu is called

[Seimron]

Originally Posted by Sasori da God

i dunno man,think you left someone out like,Itachi you know da guy sasuke wants ta kill,even if hes somehow faster like Itachi breaks his legs and sasuke takes chojis red pill,Itachi still has mangekyo a.k.a. sussune or watever da teleprtation jutsu is called

I barely understood what you typed but choji's pill turns calories into chakra for a short amount of time so that would do nothing to Sasuke since he is already pretty skinny. Sasuke is faster than Itachi that is pretty obvious with their last fight in which Itachi was surprised at Sasuke's speed. Sasuke has also experianced Itachi's mangekyo sharingan and I am sure he won't fall for it again. As for Kakashi vs Sasuke the only thing Kakashi has againts him right now is experiance,and an elemental advantage. Sasuke I think could take on Kakashi simply because I dought Kakashi's MS would hit someone as fast as Sasuke.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by ponchocam

Isn't Sasuke better at chidori than Kakashi, Sasuke can cast genjutsu now, plus he has a true sharigan.

i dont think so, Kakashis Chidori once cut a lighting bolt, and also what good is a true sharingan if it doesnt have MS while kakashi Sharingan has MS. kakashi also has over 1000 teqniques of all element types, he could easily use wind agasint Sasukes lighting teqniques and water againsnt his fire teqniques.

[ifeanyi84]

Originally Posted by ponchocam

Isn't Sasuke better at chidori than Kakashi, Sasuke can cast genjutsu now, plus he has a true sharigan.

i dont know about that. sasuke still performs chidori while kakashi uses raikiri. it's not because kakashi cant pull off different kinds of shape manipulation, because we know he can. he has mastered rasengan which is the ultimate shape manipulation. considering that he was able to fire off a few raikiri's in the kakuzu fight, i think he can do the things with chidori that sasuke does if he felt like it. as far as genjutsu with rasengan, i think that it's a nonfactor. kakashi has been able to cast genjutsu with his sharingan and his normal eye since we met him. in the fight against itachi, it wasnt a factor until itachi used his MS. i'd go with kakashi in this fight.

[Kataklyzm]

I'm voting Kakashi. More justus including elemental advantages, not to mention the MS. Kakashi also has much more experience using the Sharingan. Also, according to Tsunade and Jirayia, Kakashi is or is a blade's edge (no pun intended) of Kage-level. IMO, He's too much for Sasuke to handle.

I severely doubt Sasuke can effectively use genjutsu on Kakashi, and Sasuke is horribly outmatched in terms of jutsu knowledge, elemental manipulation and battle tactics. Although we don't know if Kakashi has wind jutsus, he has water, which beats Sasuke's natural affinity: fire, and is stronger in terms of lightning manipulation, especially since lightning is Kakashi's affinity. Don't forget that Kakashi also knows how to activate the Gates.

Sasuke is good, no doubt, but I'm not convinced he can defeat Kakashi - not by a long shot.

[San Goku]

Sasuke is way too fast, way too strong, way too much chakra for Kakashi to handle now, a real bad opponent for Kakashi, plus he's intelligent, of course not as much as Kakashi but more amo for Sasuke. As someone stated above Sasuke has true sharingan.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by San Goku

Sasuke is way too fast, way too strong, way too much chakra for Kakashi to handle now, a real bad opponent for Kakashi, plus he's intelligent, of course not as much as Kakashi but more amo for Sasuke. As someone stated above Sasuke has true sharingan.

What good is a true Sharingan when the oponent has the MS, also his speed is not a problem for kakashi as kakashi also has the Sharingan to track his speed, Sasukes speed only seems so overwhelming because he has only fought people without it. too much chakra? kakashi has the gates as well, Inmagine a kakashi with the MS on, with Gates opened and everything, Sasukes doesnt have a chance, if its an all out battle to the death.there is also a high chance kakashi also has wind teqniques to counter his lightning teqiniques. kakashis intelligence is also up there with Shikamaru or even higher, and has much more battle experience.

[ultirenegade]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

What good is a true Sharingan when the oponent has the MS, also his speed is not a problem for kakashi as kakashi also has the Sharingan to track his speed, Sasukes speed only seems so overwhelming because he has only fought people without it. too much chakra? kakashi has the gates as well, Inmagine a kakashi with the MS on, with Gates opened and everything, Sasukes doesnt have a chance, if its an all out battle to the death.there is also a high chance kakashi also has wind teqniques to counter his lightning teqiniques. kakashis intelligence is also up there with Shikamaru or even higher, and has much more battle experience.

if he was as good as you are trying to porteray him, he would not have been getting his ass kicked by kakuzu.

kakashi's ms is not an instant pwn like itachi's ms.

sasuke has surpassed him.