Killer Bee vs Itachi

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I thought this would be a good fight.

Rules:

One on One

Both Are going all out

And Itachi can See

(Yeah by killer Be I mean the 8 tails)

[Marlie]

Alright. Hard to call. Tsukiyomi does'nt work and Sharingan can hardly keep up with this guy. Until I see what happens in his beast form I can't really call it but Itachi might not pull through from what I'm seeing from this guy.

[narutoxv]

I don't know about this one Itachi is a beast with no ends but the eight tails is fucking awsome just need some more info on the full scope of the eight tails powers

[SeanMuir]

I don't know if we will ever be able to call this one as we have never seen Itachi go all out. Every fight we have seen of Itachi he has either held back a whole lot or he has won with great ease. Without knowing what Itachi is like when he is going for the kill makes this one unfair to call.

[nozferah2]

Any Jinchuriki that has trained to be strong and made an alliance with it's Bijuu can beat any Shinobi.

The only way Itachi, or anyone else can win is if they had a Bijuu themselves, or they use some kind of trickery or foul play.


Edit:

(Foul play is what DeiDara did to Gaara.... studying him for years to make a battle plan. Still, that fight was... fake since Gaara had already fully encased DD in Sabaku Kyuu, DD majically broke out made a new Bird and was unharmed

[bluewingedD]

Originally Posted by SeanMuir

I don't know if we will ever be able to call this one as we have never seen Itachi go all out. Every fight we have seen of Itachi he has either held back a whole lot or he has won with great ease. Without knowing what Itachi is like when he is going for the kill makes this one unfair to call.

Itachi was giving sasuke the biz, going 25%( 50% because he was sick, and divide that by 1/2 again since he was holding back), I'm pretty sure he'll be owning sasuke just as bad as the eight tail's is, fully heathly and going all out.

But since Itachi is a genjutsu type, his over all effectiveness is like cut in half, but we haven't seen everything the Eight tails can do using his...well... 8 tails so like everybody else in here, I say let's wait, a week or two, before getting into this.

[NarutoSamaman]

Originally Posted by Marlie

Alright. Hard to call. Tsukiyomi does'nt work and Sharingan can hardly keep up with this guy. Until I see what happens in his beast form I can't really call it but Itachi might not pull through from what I'm seeing from this guy.

Why doesn't Tsukiyomi work. Its not normal genjutsu and cannot be broken from what we've seen apart from via another sharingan user. I'll admit his normal genjutsu won't work but Tsukiyomi is different.

I still give this to Itachi even if we haven't seen the 8 tail's full power- why because the 8 tails is gonna be captured and most likely by Sasuke unless Madara saves team Hebi's ass.

Itachi has way too much at his disposal- Susanno which should be able to seal the 8 tails immediately, Ameratsu and Tsukiyomi not to mention the many other techniques I am sure he has at his disposal. Considering Madara held back his plans to conquer the leaf village until after he died says how powerful Itachi is.

[Marlie]

This guy broke Tsukiyomi. Did'nt you read the latest chapter?

[Ycagel]

Originally Posted by Marlie

This guy broke Tsukiyomi. Did'nt you read the latest chapter?

Not really sure that was Tsukiyomi. I mean, Tsukiyomi actually happens in an instant, so while he'd think 'Disrupt the chakra', shouldn't it still work for like 2/3's or something of the 72 'hours' as the Bijuu disrupts the chakra. Then again, Sasuke was able to activate the CS and break free, so yeah. i dunno...

[Marlie]

Originally Posted by Ycagel

Not really sure that was Tsukiyomi. I mean, Tsukiyomi actually happens in an instant, so while he'd think 'Disrupt the chakra', shouldn't it still work for like 2/3's or something of the 72 'hours' as the Bijuu disrupts the chakra. Then again, Sasuke was able to activate the CS and break free, so yeah. i dunno...

He activated his MS to use it and it had all the signs of Tsukiyomi. Blacked out world, torture and Sasuke's visable fatigue after using it.

[Ycagel]

Originally Posted by Marlie

He activated his MS to use it and it had all the signs of Tsukiyomi. Blacked out world, torture and Sasuke's visable fatigue after using it.

I know, but it makes little sense. You shouldn't be able to break out of Tsukiyomi unless... Well, unless you can somehow render the Genjutsu useless the very instant it affects you (Like... See through it from the start or something.) Ah well, I guess Kishi just changed how it works or something.

Anyway, I give this to Killer Bee. I honestly don't see how he can defeat someone with nearly full power over his bijuu, unless he have a weakness of some sort, or if Itachi can last long enough for the damage caused by a bijuu to be to much.

I dunno how Akatsuki's done it before, though that could be because the Nibi was the only one fully capable of using her Bijuu, or at least to a great extent. And she was fighting Hidan and Kakuzu, the awesomeness duo.

[weasel flare]

im gonna give this to killer bee. without the beasts power, he was able to do more than just keep up with sasuke and his sharingan, but the entire eagle team. killer bee for this one.

[NarutoSamaman]

Originally Posted by Ycagel

Not really sure that was Tsukiyomi. I mean, Tsukiyomi actually happens in an instant, so while he'd think 'Disrupt the chakra', shouldn't it still work for like 2/3's or something of the 72 'hours' as the Bijuu disrupts the chakra. Then again, Sasuke was able to activate the CS and break free, so yeah. i dunno...

yeah that's why i was thinking it ain't tsukiyomi. And tsukiyomi can't be broken by someone who breaks the chakra ie: from an outside user and in principle that should apply to someone inside aka a bijuu hence why I don't think this is Tsukiyomi but rather a powerful genjutsu requiring MS.

I could be wrong, but even if Tsukiyomi is rendered useless. Itachi still has Susanno which seems to be invincible and should be able to seal away the bijuu once in that form. Before that form however I think Itachi is too good and won't need to resort to Susanno to win.

Itachi in my eyes is still 2-3 times stronger than Sasuke atm and that was best illustrated by his fight with Sasuke. He was no way near his best, still pulled out all stops without killing Sasuke and managed to seal away a maniacal sannin in Oro.

[San Goku]

Originally Posted by Ycagel

I know, but it makes little sense. You shouldn't be able to break out of Tsukiyomi unless... Well, unless you can somehow render the Genjutsu useless the very instant it affects you (Like... See through it from the start or something.) Ah well, I guess Kishi just changed how it works or something.

You need to re-read, the demon inside him broke the genjutsu, it was tsukiyomi.

[Marlie]

I'm not counting the Nibi fight cause she was only of 2 tail power. Someone of that caliber should'nt have given Hidan and Kazuku too much trouble plus what Naruto as a kid took out a full possesed Gaara. Sasuke is fighting against the 8 tails....a beast just a step down from the Kyuubi. Plus this guy happens to be in complete comtrol with his Bijuu. Give him some credit.

[San Goku]

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Not to mention that he's a completely stronger ninja alone without it. Its hard, cause Itachi seems like a guy to pick up on things alot quicker then others, that can be an advantage, smart shinobi like Kakashi.

[Marlie]

So your saying Sasuke's not smart? Either way Genjutsu, which we had a extreme lack of, seems to be the trump card in Part 2 and not even that works against the guy.

[Bonkai Renji]

I don't know what kind of Itachi your talking about in this? Is this Itachi a fully healthy one or a half blind/dead Itachi?

In this fight I would give it to Itachi because he has mastered the sharingan to a great extent, and has Susanoo to his disposal.

The Killer Bee I would have to say that he would put up a good fight because he is blind and has the seond strongest beast.

[MD]

Originally Posted by Marlie

I'm not counting the Nibi fight cause she was only of 2 tail power. Someone of that caliber should'nt have given Hidan and Kazuku too much trouble plus what Naruto as a kid took out a full possesed Gaara. Sasuke is fighting against the 8 tails....a beast just a step down from the Kyuubi. Plus this guy happens to be in complete comtrol with his Bijuu. Give him some credit.

You have absolutely no idea how Bijuu power rankings work.

Bijuu were not rated in power based on how many tails they had, and to the best of my knowledge, this hasn't been changed in Naruto. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[Ycagel]

Originally Posted by Marlie

I'm not counting the Nibi fight cause she was only of 2 tail power. Someone of that caliber should'nt have given Hidan and Kazuku too much trouble plus what Naruto as a kid took out a full possesed Gaara. Sasuke is fighting against the 8 tails....a beast just a step down from the Kyuubi. Plus this guy happens to be in complete comtrol with his Bijuu. Give him some credit.

Naruto never defeated full Shukaku, he summoned Gamabunta to help him fight Gaara's version, which, even though weaker than the real deal, was strong enough to force Gamabunta to let go of his knife to finish an attack. His full Shukaku form was pwning Gamabunta.

Also, only two tails of power? It's never been said that the Bijuu are ranked in power depending on their tails, even though Kishi had all the opportunity in the world to explain it like that when Chiyo told Sakura about them. Here's the pages: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/256/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/256/14/

Also, in Shukaku's profile, its ability to flatten forests and crush mountains with a swing of its tail is mentioned. That sounds insanely powerful. And they are, according to Chiyo (Kishi), beasts possessing power beyond men.

Even if they are numbered so the Shukaku is the weakest and the Kyuubi is the strongest, a Bijuu should still be much stronger than any person. Much stronger. Which pretty much works against me in this argument, as it means the Nibi/Hachibi Jinchuuriki probably only have as much control over their Bijuu as Gaara did. You know, as in they can release something looking like the bijuu but without its full power.

Still don't think Itachi would win this...