nine tail fox vs gohan (ape)

[votehill4pres]

i think kyuubi might take this, ape gohan didnt seem all that powerful at that time, and scareface u were dead on what u said, the only part i disagree is when u and others say kyuubi is mindless, to me he comes across as being very intelligent

[The stig]

^Lol thanks, but i was goingby the i think it was chiyo who said it.

The bijuu without a host are mindless creatures and can't tap into their full power.

Or something like that.

Though, i have been thinking, so far the only way we know of a bijuu being "killed" is through sealing, though we've seen people like DD, tobi(so i don't spoil anything), erm, sasori etc. take down bijuu and jinchurikkis, so it's still debateble anda had outcome to come across, but, keep in mind that one person seems to be able to take out a bijuu on his own.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by Blackghost164

im going with gohan, the 4th was able to beat the nine tails and we know that he wasnt even close to being able to destroy worlds

Bad assumption since the nine tails got beat through a sealing technique. I believe that the nine tails will take this fight, Emperical stated the reasons why I believe he will take the fight.

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Sadly i'd have to go with Kyuubi. Though if Gohan was Teen Gohan where he's able to use a proper kamehamehaa then Gohan would win.

[Bonkai Renji]

Match goes to gohan because he came from a race that destroys planets and he would do a KI Cannon.

What would the fox do? swing its nine tails around lol?

[Ycagel]

Originally Posted by scarface101

^Lol thanks, but i was goingby the i think it was chiyo who said it.

The bijuu without a host are mindless creatures and can't tap into their full power.

Or something like that.

Though, i have been thinking, so far the only way we know of a bijuu being "killed" is through sealing, though we've seen people like DD, tobi(so i don't spoil anything), erm, sasori etc. take down bijuu and jinchurikkis, so it's still debateble anda had outcome to come across, but, keep in mind that one person seems to be able to take out a bijuu on his own.

Deidara said that about the Sanbi. It was simply to stupid to use its own powers, which is why they could defeat it. The Kyuubi apparently does have mind, and Shukaku was much stronger on its own than when Gaara controlled it.

Anyway, I still give to to Oozaru Gohan, as we haven't seen anything from the Kyuubi that puts it around Oozaru Gohan's level.

[The stig]

I stand corrected, though could you PM the pages please Just so i know exactly what was said and so i don't make the mistake gain

[GiantMidget]

Roshi blew up a moonwith his strongest attack, Picollo with a simple ki blast, yet Picollo was getting owned by Ape Gohan, Even roshi can destroy the kyuubi with a Kameha wave, Apes that conquer enti8re planets trumps a demon who can only destroy mountains and hasn't conquer anything even after 1000 years.

[Emperical]

You are talking about the apes who are actually strong though.
This one was weak as hell, in fact all the db characters from that time period were pretty weak.
Any later in the series and Kyuubi could never win but because this is still early and they don't have obscene power just yet Kyuubi will definitely rape the great ape.

[hi its me]

Dude... Goku was sent to destroy earth straight after birth and (using the most canon sorce possible) his power level was around 2.

[Emperical]

I'm tired of arguing about this.
Gohan that young was really bloody weak and as an Oozaru he was still weak.
He was a physical beast but little else.
Nothing else to say that hasn't been said and my opinion on this won't budge.
he was weaker than 4t naruto at that point and so was his Oozaru transformation.

[Girfinkle1]

gohan takes this gohan laughed at bullets. no ninja can take a bullet the sayans laughed at guns in dbz. its so obvious

[Emperical]

This is a Demon, not a ninja....

[Goraishi]

In regards to the 'planet destroying and city busting' stuff, you guys have to remember something. This 'business setup' was done over a series of several full moons. Not just 'a few minutes.' The 'baby saiyans' were sent for the 'deemed' weaker planets. Also, it took roshi ( and picollo ) time to charge up a blast to aim at the core of the moon. Just like it takes time for the 'great apes' to charge up their belch-lasers of doom of limited aoe-ness that are prolonged for maximum destruction.

What does the kyuubi have to do for massive destruction? Wave a hand, paw, tail, fart, belch. It can charge up the chakra quickly enough that it looks like it is doing a normal attack.

Don't get me wrong. Vegeta or Nappa as oozaru will likely break through the 'absolute defense of the chakra shield' with enough force applied. A mouth laser from one of them can likely do some damage to kyuubi and send it flying ( due to 'physics' aspect of shield ). However, we are talking about a kid turned beserked non-intelligent ape, not like the intelligent counterparts of Vegeta and co.

I am taking no sides btw.

[wakakin]

Wow ..... lol

Nine tail fox = NORMAL HUMAN, ninjas and small village destruction beast....
I mean a normal human was able to handle him to some extent.



Sayans = Entire civilizations and planet buster without braking a sweat.....Not to mention speed largely exceeding the laws of physics

EDIT: The thing is that Extremely weak in DBZ would be Ultra Mega Overpowered in Naruto

IMO Gohan can probably kill the nine tail with a single finger. Hell, a fart from gohan in ape form will probably send that fox into orbit.....

[votehill4pres]

^lol ur going a little too far, it with moon busting thing, i dont know if kyuubi had that power, i mean in 4 tail with a little bit of chakra took out a forest, so who knows what full power nine tail can do, plus the whole planet busting thing in dbz was for show, if u noticed the really cut back on that as the serious went on, in the start as weak as they were they could blow up moons and planets, but later as supersayins and stronger levels, with much more powerful attacks only takes up mountains

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by votehill4pres

^lol ur going a little too far, it with moon busting thing, i dont know if kyuubi had that power, i mean in 4 tail with a little bit of chakra took out a forest, so who knows what full power nine tail can do, plus the whole planet busting thing in dbz was for show, if u noticed the really cut back on that as the serious went on, in the start as weak as they were they could blow up moons and planets, but later as supersayins and stronger levels, with much more powerful attacks only takes up mountains

They never cut back then just has better control, over their powers, Roshi Blew up moon, Ape Gohan> Roshi is enough to know the Ape will rape the kyuubi.

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

They never cut back then just has better control, over their powers, Roshi Blew up moon, Ape Gohan> Roshi is enough to know the Ape will rape the kyuubi.

Sorry this isnt ABC.

Roshi uses skill kameha wave to destroy a moon.

The Gohan Ape was only able to big rocks. Its true that Gohan ape strength is above than Roshi. but Gohan Ape lack skill & abilities on this battle.

While FUll tail kyuubi could destroy a whole mountain with 1 swing? Dont forget that he's infinite chakra.

The Gohan ape have weakness.

ALso dont say that KYuubi is mindless. The only reason you say that because he is being tamed by Uchiha Madara.

But the fact he has his own mind. when u clearly see it that kyuubi is talking 100% to naruto and sasuke he has his own mind.

[GiantMidget]

Originally Posted by endomilik

Sorry this isnt ABC.

Roshi uses skill kameha wave to destroy a moon.

The Gohan Ape was only able to big rocks. Its true that Gohan ape strength is above than Roshi. but Gohan Ape lack skill & abilities on this battle.

While FUll tail kyuubi could destroy a whole mountain with 1 swing? Dont forget that he's infinite chakra.

The Gohan ape have weakness.

ALso dont say that KYuubi is mindless. The only reason you say that because he is being tamed by Uchiha Madara.

But the fact he has his own mind. when u clearly see it that kyuubi is talking 100% to naruto and sasuke he has his own mind.

Gohan ape also has a energy beam, one that shoots from his mouth that could wtfpwn the kyuubi.

[endomilik]

Originally Posted by GiantMidget

Gohan ape also has a energy beam, one that shoots from his mouth that could wtfpwn the kyuubi.

you see shooting a energy beam with no abilities behind it = failure.

Gohan shoot a energy beam = destroyed a big rock and I know you seen it. It was ONLY able to destroy a big rock and the mountain over it was not even destroyed.

If u compare roshi kameha wave to Gohan energy beam = Kameha wave was even stronger than gohan energy beam. because kameha wave focus its energy too much while gohan mouth beam are just like bubbles -.-