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Old 18-08-2008, 05:14 AM   #141
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There are only 2 way this can go down

1.Long range battle

and

2.Short range combat

Long range battle is not only less likely in this fight because
A.The sheer size of the Kyuubi and Ape Gohan

but also

B. Ape Gohan would attack the Kyuubi head on, it isnt smart enough to use a long range strategy.

Short Range Combat

If Gohan Grabs the Kyuubi

counter: Kyuubi can make extra corrosive chakra limbs from any place in its body. It has 9 prehensile tails that can fully wrap around the entire Ape. In this case it has grabbed Gohan's tail accidentally.
*Gohan howls in pain*

Kyuubi's ponders the potential weakness.

bluewing..
What im saying is, Roshi in early DB may have been cabable of moon busting, and picollo could moon bust. But in his fight with Raditz...

the fight was not a moon-bustingly epic battle like Frieza vs. SS Goku was.

DBZ has such inconsistencies of power is not even funny, I dont even think the artist cared if it had a future or not.. just put random bullshit all over.


In short.. Picollo could somehow convieniently moon bust for the fucking plot to comtinue..
but when he fights Raditz he cant even mountain bust.
So your basing your whole argument an accident that the Ape gohan would conveniently grab the kyuubi in a close range battle where the kyuubi would randomly grab at Gohan knowing that one blast can vaporize himself or send him into space and somehow for no reason at all grab its tail bercause it so obvious that a giant apes wekaness is its tail.

Bluewing is right you just writing out a fanfic where the kyuubi has lucky accidents that exploit the one weakness of the ape.

Also DB isnt incosistent theres something called Ki control those blast arent weaker and unable to moon bust they are just more concentrated into 1 beam where the energy doesnt fly everywhere.
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I'll make this as short and simple as possible.

BlueWing, try and convince me the Picollo Goku Raditz fight was a planet busting battle, i aint buying it.

It was barely a mountain buster. Special Beam Cannon I'd say was about as strong as 4T Naruto's chakra blast against the Triple Rashomon

Fuck outa here with fan boy fan fic shit I only advocate wats true, and guys are mistaken (no offense to anyone, im just loud)

Kyuubi isnt just some weak fucking smudge. Its skin at only 4Tails couldnt be peirced by a sword that easily cut diamond, the hardest Rock density known to man. It makes atomic bomb craters with a single paw, each one of its tails is capable of causing cataslysmic catastrophy, in ther Naruto-verse, it has no known weakness besides nature control and mind control..... it has no solid body, it has no organs, it is pure energy...

This creature obviously is not even on the level of the Naruto-verse.

It can easily be placed as a beast of Dragon Ball like power, seeing what 4T Naruto was capable of. The power jump from Tail to Tail is not consistent. The power Skyrockets after the fourth tail, which means.. Kyuubi's power is far less than half of its original strength..

NOT ONLY THAT the Kyuubi's full chakra was split into TWO HALVES, only one half is in Naruto, which means...

It's possible that that was only less than 1/4 of full powered Demon Fox.

This Demon is no push over compared to Gohan, the hell are you people talking about?

It's power is said to be infinite but the EXACT words of the Hokage was it would "terrorize" villages... not slaughter, it is extremely intelligent, and completely evil.

It isnt some fucking smudge, this is fact that can NOT EASILY be shown if I didnt have a life I would get all this ividence that points to Kyuubi being potentially STRONGER than Oozaru, unfortunate taht it takes a while to find the panels save them then transfer them to a photo host for a [img] code CHILLL I need some sleep

Hope that was short and simple enough.
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One I didn't say it was a planet buster battle, I said Moon busting. The special beam cannon that piccolo fired, drilled through the Mountian, and made a surpremely massive hole. You could've bulit a city inside the hole he made in that moutian. The special beam cannon is not an attack made for explosion, or massive impact. It's an attack made for drilling through the opponent without fail. But there's no doubt that there was enough power running through that attack, that if it was a concusive blast, it would have vaporize the mountian, and easily could have done the same thing to the moon roshi did.

Moving on, the greatest feat, that we have heard the nine tails can preform is destroying a mountain, with a swipe of it's tail. Bow we have raditz, over here, who could more then likely do that with one hand. Hell screw the raditz thing, we have nappa would could do that by lifting two of his figers into the air. He destroyed a city, and made craters larger then what 4 tail naruto did, by doing what? lifting two of his fingers. And he casually did this, with little to no effort. and Ape Gohan's power level was much greater then nappa, so a mouth blast from him could take out a planet, or at the very least, Could damage beyound anything we have heard that the nine tails can do.

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And it didn't say Inifinite chakra, it said nearly limitless, meanin that it has more chakra then anything seen in Naruto. And you can garther all the eveindence you won't it won;t help your case, for several reasons, one there's no way to no the ture fightng force of the kyuubi, because we've never seen the real one fight, we've only heard what it can do. Nothing the Kyuubi was done or can do, is greater then moon destroying.
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Whoa.. stay away from Nappa and Vegeta, I thought about that already, the plot made them seem too strong.

This is all speculation your right. I dont remember the damage done by Picollo's SBC ... but I do remember afterwards when Picollo started training Gohan he threw him at a mountain to test his strength and the crater Gohan made was the bigger than any crater we've seen in the Raditz Picollo Goku fight..

And yet still the crater and damage to the ground and mountain side was maybe, maybe just barely mountain busting. Picollo was like omfgz...

If I were to smuggle a 'scouter' into the Naruto world, I would suspect Kyuubi's powerlevel being up towards atleast the same as Oozaru. Be theres just no way to tell.
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Why should I stay away from it, when it just helps to prove my point? Nappa lifting two fingers, showed more destructive force then anything seen in naruto, short of DD's Kamikazi attack. Sorry but I'd put Nappa's power level above Kyuubi. and Ape gohan was much stronger the Nappa.

And Piccolo didn't throw gohan into a mountain it was a cliff side. And his Special beam cannon caused way more damage to that mountian did what Goahn had did on pure instinct. And Saying that base Gohan was able to cause more damage then piccolo is just hurting your arugeement.


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And quit leaning on this whole plot thing like a crutch. It happened, get over it.
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I'll make this as short and simple as possible.

BlueWing, try and convince me the Picollo Goku Raditz fight was a planet busting battle, i aint buying it.

It was barely a mountain buster. Special Beam Cannon I'd say was about as strong as 4T Naruto's chakra blast against the Triple Rashomon

Fuck outa here with fan boy fan fic shit I only advocate wats true, and guys are mistaken (no offense to anyone, im just loud)

Kyuubi isnt just some weak fucking smudge. Its skin at only 4Tails couldnt be peirced by a sword that easily cut diamond, the hardest Rock density known to man. It makes atomic bomb craters with a single paw, each one of its tails is capable of causing cataslysmic catastrophy, in ther Naruto-verse, it has no known weakness besides nature control and mind control..... it has no solid body, it has no organs, it is pure energy...

This creature obviously is not even on the level of the Naruto-verse.

It can easily be placed as a beast of Dragon Ball like power, seeing what 4T Naruto was capable of. The power jump from Tail to Tail is not consistent. The power Skyrockets after the fourth tail, which means.. Kyuubi's power is far less than half of its original strength..

NOT ONLY THAT the Kyuubi's full chakra was split into TWO HALVES, only one half is in Naruto, which means...

It's possible that that was only less than 1/4 of full powered Demon Fox.

This Demon is no push over compared to Gohan, the hell are you people talking about?

It's power is said to be infinite but the EXACT words of the Hokage was it would "terrorize" villages... not slaughter, it is extremely intelligent, and completely evil.

It isnt some fucking smudge, this is fact that can NOT EASILY be shown if I didnt have a life I would get all this ividence that points to Kyuubi being potentially STRONGER than Oozaru, unfortunate taht it takes a while to find the panels save them then transfer them to a photo host for a [img] code CHILLL I need some sleep

Hope that was short and simple enough.
Since Roshi can moon bust and Goku raditz and Piccolo is like 100 times stronger and have learn to control their enegy in concentrated beams, such as the one picollo used, it wasn't mean following things up it was meant for piercing thats why it didnt planet bust.

They never said it can easily cut diamond Enma said it could even cut diamond, also Goku has been taking bullets to the head since ep 1,surviving a sword that cuts diamond is nothing to Ozaru gohan.

Do you know how big atomic bomb craters are? those raters arent atomic bomb craters sop exaggerating.

The kyuubi does have a solid body like all the other demons....

The Kyuubis chakra was split in half meaning the 4 tails is as far as naruto can go, not that he can go all 9 tails but it would only be half.

The kyuubis powers are not infinite, it just has so much compared to a normal human that its ammout is uncomprehendable to a human.

Other they the tail grabbing you have provided no argument for the kyuubi to beat Ozaru gohan who is clearly at least a planet buster, except for and accident that probably might not happen in your little fanfic where the kyuubi would accidentally find out and exploit the weakness of the ape under some ridiculous scenario you created to benefit the kyuubi.
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*LONG WINDED SIGH* Dude, why are you always so wrong in whatever you say??

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Since Roshi can moon bust and Goku raditz and Piccolo is like 100 times stronger and have learn to control their enegy in concentrated beams, such as the one picollo used, it wasn't mean following things up it was meant for piercing thats why it didnt planet bust.
Yeah, yeah..

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They never said it can easily cut diamond Enma said it could even cut diamond, also Goku has been taking bullets to the head since ep 1,surviving a sword that cuts diamond is nothing to Ozaru gohan.
Surviving? lol who said anything about surviving it? 4T barely felt it. He tossed it of his chest like it was lint.

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Do you know how big atomic bomb craters are? those raters arent atomic bomb craters sop exaggerating.
Who said anything about bombs? When meteors come down form space they arent packing plutonium.. When 4T Naruto' paw slammed down it cause a force atomic explosion, atomizing Orochimaru's attack.

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The kyuubi does have a solid body like all the other demons....
No, not necessarily
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If your mind cant comprehend this as the fact it is, then dont talk of it like you know about it.. serious, you didnt write it, stop pretending you did.

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The Kyuubis chakra was split in half meaning the 4 tails is as far as naruto can go, not that he can go all 9 tails but it would only be half.
I said, "possibly" because in fact, we cant be sure since that info isnt out yet. You have a knack for trying to reinvent the Manga to fit your needs.

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The kyuubis powers are not infinite, it just has so much compared to a normal human that its ammout is uncomprehendable to a human.
"Near Limitless Energy" is what he has. Comparable to an Oozaru. I'd Imagine our universe goes on "near limitless" distance, the distance is not even within our ability to comprehend, yet, YOU seem have it all figured out to fit your regime....yeah i said it, your regime lol

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Other they the tail grabbing you have provided no argument for the kyuubi to beat Ozaru gohan who is clearly at least a planet buster, except for and accident that probably might not happen in your little fanfic where the kyuubi would accidentally find out and exploit the weakness of the ape under some ridiculous scenario you created to benefit the kyuubi.
I need to creat NO scenario to benefit the Fox, it'll do that on its own.

You know what?? This goes to you two Bluewing

Can Oozaru manipulate nature??
Does Oozaru have a Sharingan that I dont know about????
Does Oozaru possess any sealing jutsu??

Why I ask these silly questions?

Quite simply these are the only,... yes, only... and once again ONLY.. weaknesses known to the Demon Fox made of Pure energy.

Oozaru Gohan has LOST by default since it has known physical weaknesses that have been easily exploited in the past.


Simple as that.

Give me a way that Gohan can win according to the weaknesses of the Demon Fox and you win.

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*sigh*

This threed is point less.... WE are just going to go back and forth because nozferah2 is a FOOL. YES YOU ARE A F.O.O.L.

We all know who wins so close this thread... Because... THIS IS MADNESS!
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Madness??????....(.....) This is.. sike!

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Can Oozaru manipulate nature??
Does Oozaru have a Sharingan that I dont know about????
Does Oozaru possess any sealing jutsu??

Why I ask these silly questions?

Quite simply these are the only,... yes, only... and once again ONLY.. weaknesses known to the Demon Fox made of Pure energy.

Oozaru Gohan has LOST by default since it has known physical weaknesses that have been easily exploited in the past.


Simple as that.

Give me a way that Gohan can win according to the weaknesses of the Demon Fox and you win.
Go on.. give it a go, this'll be my last trump card.
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*LONG WINDED SIGH* Dude, why are you always so wrong in whatever you say??



Yeah, yeah..



Surviving? lol who said anything about surviving it? 4T barely felt it. He tossed it of his chest like it was lint.



Who said anything about bombs? When meteors come down form space they arent packing plutonium.. When 4T Naruto' paw slammed down it cause a force atomic explosion, atomizing Orochimaru's attack.



No, not necessarily
World of Naruto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Naruto 256 page 14 | One Manga
If your mind cant comprehend this as the fact it is, then dont talk of it like you know about it.. serious, you didnt write it, stop pretending you did.



I said, "possibly" because in fact, we cant be sure since that info isnt out yet. You have a knack for trying to reinvent the Manga to fit your needs.



"Near Limitless Energy" is what he has. Comparable to an Oozaru. I'd Imagine our universe goes on "near limitless" distance, the distance is not even within our ability to comprehend, yet, YOU seem have it all figured out to fit your regime....yeah i said it, your regime lol




I need to creat NO scenario to benefit the Fox, it'll do that on its own.

You know what?? This goes to you two Bluewing

Can Oozaru manipulate nature??
Does Oozaru have a Sharingan that I dont know about????
Does Oozaru possess any sealing jutsu??

Why I ask these silly questions?

Quite simply these are the only,... yes, only... and once again ONLY.. weaknesses known to the Demon Fox made of Pure energy.

Oozaru Gohan has LOST by default since it has known physical weaknesses that have been easily exploited in the past.


Simple as that.

Give me a way that Gohan can win according to the weaknesses of the Demon Fox and you win.
Thats why he was stunned for a period of time before he brushed it off and returned to battle.
Either why Goku in ep one took a bullet to the head and it didnt do anything to him.

You mean this atomic explosion the one where Yamato is like 50 feet away and only felt wind?
Naruto 294 page 04 | One Manga

The old hag said that the Bijuu are monstrous formations of chakra when she said that she meant all of them and guess what from every demon we have seen so far they are flesh and not just energy.

Im not trying to reinvent it, tell me which makes more sense that Naruto can go all 9 tails if he wants but will only be at half power or that he is limited to the first half of the kyuubis power which goes up to 4 tails the form that is already killing him?

Your only hurting your point because thats exactly how it is, we cannot comprehend how big how universe really is she is it seemingly limitless just like how compared to a normal ninjas chakra, the demons is seemingly limitless.

And for the last time the kyuubi isnt just energy, The old hag said that the bijuus(as in all of them) are formations of monstrous amounts of chakra, yet all of the demons so far which is like almost all of them had physical forms that can be harmed and injured.

So therefore 1 blast from the Ozaruu can obliterate the kyuubi, there we go I guess we win right?
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^Exactly your argument was a lost cause from the beginning
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