Uchiha Itachi vs Jiraiya

[Menato]

But if cant see Itachi he really doesnt have a chance of hitting him..and if jiraiya is in tsukuyomi theres is no way ma and pa can dispell it... and since all jiraiya has to do is close his eye all Itachi has to do is hold his ears together so he cant hear the genjutsu then use amaterasu (what is a two word random answer)

[zack_strife]

Ma and Pa toad can be his eyes and tell him where to hit and when to dodge. If you put your hand over your ears you can still hear sound lol (hold his ears together, must have some pretty big ears to do that lmao)

The 2 word random answer was " i agree" which you have deleted

[Menato]

Thats not a good enough comeback even if they did guide him Itachi can use a shadow clone and make it go up close to jiraiya and blow them up or Itachi can just stay back and use amaterasu from a distance and since jiraiya's eyes are close he wont be able to run as easily as he can with his eyes open.. even though someone is guiding him he still wont be able to dodge amaterasu like he would have with his eyes open

[zack_strife]

still not good enough from you, as long as he isn't looking him in the face he is ok, he can still keep his eyes waist height and still be able to see the ground. As for the bushin, Jiraiya wouldn't stand still knowing that a surprise attack could come, in which case he would put up the barrier that detects movement and will hide in the barrier that killed the Pein body. While he is hiding in the invisible barrier Ma and Pa frog will have plenty of time to get their tuning right as itachi cannot enter and if he sends Amateratsu their way there are still things to hide behind depending on the battle field e.g rocks

[Menato]

all itachi has to do is before jiriya does the barrier jutsu Is look at him and use amaterasu and since jiraiya is most likely standing still while he does his seals it will be easy for itachi to hit him and I forgot amaterasu apears on people like it did madara when sasuke used it (chapter 397) and if jiraiya does use his barrier jutsu Itachi can use susanoo to protect him

[zack_strife]

If it just appears on the person why was Sasuke able to dodge it for a bit and then get hit with it while running away. It shoots out it just doesn't appear. madara on the other hand was about 2-3 away from Sasuke and it was a sneak attack of course it was going to hit him Like i said why bring Susanoo into this when Jirayia and the toads can just use their genjutsu as well, which i'm sure Susanoo can't protect against it.

[Menato]

Why shouldnt I bring in susanoo it one Itachi's jutsu's if thats the case dont bring in jiraiya's barrier jutsu...and even if amaterasu doesnt appear on you jiraiya still cant get away it.. it's impossibe to avoid like sasuke said...and bout time ma and pa get done singing jiraiya will be burned to ashes

[zack_strife]

The point is that i know that Itachi would win as soon as Susanoo came out, i started debating this cause u gave a real fanboy answer which made the great Jiraiya sound like Tenten, i just continued cause i was bored LOL

see converge as in move to that spot which means that there is time to avoid it as long as you stay out of the persons sight.
Naruto 390 page 03 | One Manga

I'm tired if i'm bored tomorrow i'll pick this debate up again

[NarutoSamaman]

Originally Posted by zack_strife

1 question do u know what a full stop is?

yes it can see the colour of chakra but can it see the colour of nature chakra i.e chakra from nature itself which j-man has learned to use. An yes J-man in hermit mode does move very fast so yea maybe he can get a hit at Itachi. Tsuyomi only works on one opponent at a time and is very taxing chakra wise and like i said and J-man can just unsummon it or something (lol?), if the toads can learn to use senjutsu why can't they be able to cast genjutsu why can't they dispell normal genjutsu. Actually with Kakashi and Zabuza the jutsu were cast at the same time where they not. Amateratsu doesn't just appear on you Naruto 390 page 04 | One Manga This clearly shows sasuke being pursued by Amateratsu and it not just appearing on him

I haven't brought Susanoo up yet so why do you keep mentioning it, because that is the biggest trump card Itachi has, just like Jiraiya has the Ma and Pa frog genjutsu. Basically they are both instant win if they hit. I have never said that Itachi wouldn't win this cause he would, but you r seriously underestimating Jiraiya and basically saying he is an adult man form of Tenten (useless). Hew can even perform seal with his feet and continue fighting with 1 arm missing lol.

Edit: Why post the exact same thing again

the whole genjutsu from Jiraiya requires him to firstly go hermit mode which is never his style to begin with. Itachi on the other hand uses MS very quickly and Jiraiya would be dead long before hermit mode.

But even if he miraculously survives long enough via hermit mode with ma and pa toad the genjutsu swong takes ridiculously long to prepare and ridiculous amounts of stalling by Jiraiya.

[zack_strife]

yea i know i stated the same thing pages back to endomilk when he was fixated on Jiraiya and his almighty barrier jutsu lol, i just wanted to see how far i could take it, cause i was bored lol