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Old 25-02-2007, 04:27 AM   #341
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Default Re: Akatsuki Leader Hypothesis, What is yours? *SPOILERS!*

there are so many theories in circulation claiming that yondaime is the leader of akatsuki and to be quite honest not one of them has provided enough substantial evidence, logic, or anything unique to break up the monotony of its predictable responses

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Well guys, i think the Akatsuki leader is none other than the brother of Tsunade (NAWAKI)
you haven't even given a legit reason as to why you think this is so however, i do think that akatsuki leader being nawaki isn't as far fetched as some think.

first i'll start with why i think shodai is connected to the 'king of hell' statue and then the logic behind why i think akatsuki leader is nawaki.

if you take a look at the 'king of hell' statue [chapter 254 page 16] the fact that it is handcuffed and blindfolded isn't what i find interesting about it more that looks encased in a wooden jacket almost as though it has been imprisoned by a mokuton type jutsu.

shodai was revered as the man that brought an end to all wars, and although it was never stated how he managed to achieve this, i think it's safe to say it involved his use of mokuton techniques [kekkei genkai] and unique ability to control bijuu. traits that would make him the perfect candidate for a task such as sealing bijuu and a 'demon king'. 'demon king' you say? yes that is what i said a king of demons.

the fact that kishi decided to make tsunade the grand-daughter of shodai and introduced nawaki into the story could be dismissed to some extent. but the fact that he was brought back from the dead to showcase his talent, cloned, and had a personal possession of his given to naruto should indicate that his legacy is integral to the story.

nawaki, the grandson of shodai and like naruto dreamt of becoming hokage even sharing each others likeness. he was apparently killed in one of the wars sometime before the start of the series with circumstances surrounding his death being quite questionable. for example, orochimaru is well known for abducting ninja with unique or special abilities and although not expressed, nawaki had the latent ability to also control bijuu and use mokuton making him a potential target. the fact that orochimaru was in possession of shodai's pendant would suggest that he was within close range of nawaki on the battle field. orochimaru was shown handing shodai's pendant back to tsunade stating that nawaki's body was mutilated beyond recognition, some he may have said just to mask his intentions.

akatsuki leader uses a technique called fuuin jutsu: genryuu kyuu fuujin [chapter 255 page 6] which uses nine dragons to supress and seal bijuu. yamoto, as a result of orochimaru's genome project has inherited the ability to perform mokuton jutsus and manipulate bijuu. similarly, yamoto uses a nameless jutsu also comprised of nine dragons, which he used on naruto and although not as powerful as akatsuki leader jutsu he managed to restrain naruto and supress kyuubi's chakra [chapter 322 page 11].

so to round this off, i think orochimaru abducted nawaki and took him as an apprentice, stole the king of hell statue from konoha, and started akatsuki to revive a demon king.

now this could all just be a massive coincidence and could very well be talk out my arse but i think i've given good enough reason and logic to make this a viable theory.

i'd like to read some thoughts on that so any feedback is appreciated.
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Old 25-02-2007, 05:23 AM   #342
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The Akatsuki is somebody who has no relation with any Naruto character so far in my opinion.Is somebody nobody knows about.One thing is for sure.He's probably very old since he knows about the economical status of villages and knows about religions like the Will of Fire.
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Old 25-02-2007, 05:47 AM   #343
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What about Ulchia Madara, the Ulchia clan member with a chakra more cursed than the kuuybi? oro has already shown that there are ways to extend one's natural life spand.
plus that might explain who the third sharingan user itachi was talking about. i doubt it though.
The Sharingan and Sharingan techniques use alot of chakra and I doubt a Sharingan user would just waste their chakra standing around in a cave straring at his or her companions.
An example of the stress the Sharingan puts on the user would be when Itachi and fish-face first encounter Kakashi. Itachi has normal black eyes then activates his Sharingan just before battle. And when Itachi used the black flame he was very fatigued.

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Old 25-02-2007, 05:49 AM   #344
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Emm, i think fourth is the akatsuki leader.. Dont you think so? Okay, about the sharingan thingy.. There is a high possibility that he has sharingan right? So, i will stick to Yondaime.. ^^
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:02 AM   #345
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I hope its a member of the Kaguya Clan just because i love those bone moves especially the spine one that was awesome.
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Old 25-02-2007, 06:42 AM   #346
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I hope its a member of the Kaguya Clan just because i love those bone moves especially the spine one that was awesome.
The Kaguya Clan were whiped out only Kimimaro surviving.Kimimaro was known as the genius of this clan that's why he was always locked up becuase of Kimimaro having the abilities that even a war loving clan feared.The Kaguka Clan was full of dumb ninjas who only purpose was to kill and nothing else.The showed their dumbness when they attacked the Hidden Mist Village knowing about the powerful military force.I doubt somebody like that would be the Akatsuki Leader.
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Default Re: Akatsuki Leader Hypothesis, What is yours? *SPOILERS!*

Well....Come wat may, FOURTH is not the AL
Madara isnt either....cause in 1 episode the AL mentions that they already hav itachi as the sharingan user(i think AL mentioned it, correct me if im wrong)

ITs got to be Nawaki....Although it was my initial idea...DEMIGOD did well proving I was rite...Among all the stupid theories u ppl came up with, i think Demigod's and Mine were the only ones Valid....
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the leader is the 10 tails.
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I believe that if the Leader was a Sharigan user like all Uchiha lovers' claim. then my best guess is that its none other than UCHIHA MADARA. no where in the story does it tell how old that guy is or where he is from. he could probably be as old as kakuzu to as young as kaikashi. of course no one knows...just my guess.. but it is still a better guess than obito like some other people thought...if obito was strong then he woudlnt have died.
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Old 25-02-2007, 04:53 PM   #350
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akatsuki leader uses a technique called fuuin jutsu: genryuu kyuu fuujin [chapter 255 page 6] which uses nine dragons to supress and seal bijuu. yamoto, as a result of orochimaru's genome project has inherited the ability to perform mokuton jutsus and manipulate bijuu. similarly, yamoto uses a nameless jutsu also comprised of nine dragons, which he used on naruto and although not as powerful as akatsuki leader jutsu he managed to restrain naruto and supress kyuubi's chakra [chapter 322 page 11].
Interesting, i also noticed on a lot of the images in 255 that the hands and such had spiral kinda like the konoha spiral.
Could be nawaki, could be another relative to the 1st but it would seem logical that mokuton was involved, also ive read the idea on the crystal of naruto and possiblety of the akatski rings being crystals like it, thus why they may be gathering them after a member dies.

Of course oro has been after Mokoton jutsu before so it might explain a part of why he tried to create clones with it, sharingan on the other hand seems too be able to supress even Biju's as it is even more cursed.

Hopefully soon we will learn more in the manga.
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ok first of all...kishi im sure was careful enough to not give enough for us to truly figure out who the AL is...its called bein a good writer...keeps people reading ye'know? ok well now IMO i dont think it couldnt be obito not because he is dead...because i dont think he is dead at all...i think obito is tobi(tobi has a 1 eye mask on and is clumsy and acts kinda like obito did in the KG)...and as for the real AL- i do believe he might be someone that hasnt been in the story as of right now...but i can kind of see why a few of you think that it might be Tsunades brother based on your arguments.

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I don't think that A.L is Nawaki because Orochimaru told Tsunade he can revive him and Dan if she cured his arms. If he is Akatsuki's Leader that means he's alive. How can Orochimaru revive someone who's already alive?
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I don't think that A.L is Nawaki because Orochimaru told Tsunade he can revive him and Dan if she cured his arms. If he is Akatsuki's Leader that means he's alive. How can Orochimaru revive someone who's already alive?
that's simple - orochimaru is an instigator and does what ever is required in order to achieve his goals. he can revive dan and tell tsunade that her brother is akatsuki leader.
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I really belive that the akatsuki leader is the fourth
just compare them!!!!! the shadow look almost the same in everything.
Also the eyes are not sharingan i read i another page that it was an error
And other fact is that itachi learned about the mangekou sharingan by rading an old manuscript of the uchiha clan

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I really belive that the akatsuki leader is the fourth
just compare them!!!!! the shadow look almost the same in everything.
Also the eyes are not sharingan i read i another page that it was an error
And other fact is that itachi learned about the mangekou sharingan by rading an old manuscript of the uchiha clan
shadow is the same because people make it hte same...itd easy to fit a lot of people into the shadow of the AL...anyway the AL hair is clearly brown and his face isnt much like the 4th...the AL is almost certainly NOT the 4th
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The Akatsuki is somebody who has no relation with any Naruto character so far in my opinion.Is somebody nobody knows about.One thing is for sure.He's probably very old since he knows about the economical status of villages and knows about religions like the Will of Fire.
I have to totally agree.That makes sense to me.The 4th being the AL doesn't make no sense,so I think it's a new character.
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I really belive that the akatsuki leader is the fourth
just compare them!!!!! the shadow look almost the same in everything.
Also the eyes are not sharingan i read i another page that it was an error
And other fact is that itachi learned about the mangekou sharingan by rading an old manuscript of the uchiha clan
his silhouete and eyes look more like nawaki's than the fourth's. plus there is more logic behind this theory.
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*sigh* come on guys... common sense. They left him an enigma for a reason...

He isn't going to be someone you can guess at, and chances are he is going to be shrouded in mystery till near the end of the series, in which we will meet his demise more than liekly to Naruto. (would of thought. <_< heh.)

Though I really do doubt it's anyone we currently know of.

and how woudl this theory of it being the fourth make any sense.? I ahev to ask, because I do find it to be kinda far stretch.
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heh if you believe in something strongly enough, you can come up with many reasons to support your theories. however it should be supported by reasonable and logical assumptions, based on stuff from the manga. not wishful thinking, which will cause you to see things.

^ that's all i have to say to the AL is 4th peeps.

i really liked Demi's theory. you made very good arguments. on the sealing technique, i think oro had something to do with the development of it. since they say that it takes longer for them to perform w/o him. and he is a known seal user. (earth/heaven/etc.)
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why do some many people think the leader had to be someone new to the series? there's be no shock value if this person was totally unrelated to any of the current main characters. you'd be like "hmm... where the hell did he come from?" then that'd lead to some obscure overview into his past which wouldn't even tie up all the loose ends.
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