which do YOU think is stronger...Rinnegan Or Sharingan?

[Gathan]

Originally Posted by elcongo

we dont know about alla abilities of the rinenga either....But...in Naruto world...has just says that the Rinenga is the stronges one...

I believe that was comparing it to the normal sharingan, the fact is the MS was a dark secret of the uchiha clan that pretty much nobody except a few in the clan knew about, let alone the EMS which from what we have seen so far has even greater power then the MS top that with no draw backs from using it.

[bluelion7342]

well pain did get pretty messed up by that genjutsu that jiriaya laid on him. I can only imagine what the eternal MS can do.

but only time will tell. It could just be that pain hasnt unlocked the secrets of the rinnegan. he is the only one that has it and has no knowledge or anyone to potentially learn from like itachi or sasuke.

[Fuuton Don]

until i see more of the rennigan and how controling the 6 different elements i think that the sharingan is the better doujutsu simply because it has the power to evolve. Using the sharingan helps learn and use your enemy's abilities and jutsu against you.

[konohaavid]

Let me put it this way, if I had a choice, I would choose eternal Mangekyou.I have yet to be impressed by Rinnegan's power. Th only thing we have seen Pein use is basically an upgraded Kage Bunshin. Whenever he starts mixing up some crazy elemental jutsu's then I will reconsider, but even then I think I'd side with Sharingan.

[penguinism]

k...eternal MS is no different from regular MS...i dunno why people think its so much stronger its the exact same strength as regular MS, same chakra use, etc...the ONLY difference is u dont go blind from ur MS anymore

which is stronger? rinnegan of course...jaraiyas genjutsu only worked on pein cuz it was a wide range genjutsu, but even then pein was only using 3/6 of his bodies...as far as we know and have seen the MS can only target 1 person at a time with genjutsu...and as weve already seen it can only predict the movements of the person its looking at...and same goes for copying jutsu

also gotta remember the rinnegan's bodies are...unkillable from what weve seen

so when it comes down to it 1v1 sharingan has the edge, but the rinnegan isnt a 1 body thing, its a 6 body thing...so 6v1 is the true rinnegan vs sharingan battle and in that the rinnegan wins

[fotte]

at this point, we cant make an accurate comparison because we know very very little about rinnegan, and we know maybe %80-90 about sharingan. We'll have to wait till kishi reveals more.

[konohaavid]

Originally Posted by penguinism

k...eternal MS is no different from regular MS...i dunno why people think its so much stronger its the exact same strength as regular MS, same chakra use, etc...the ONLY difference is u dont go blind from ur MS anymore

Just the fact that it is a Mangekyou Sharingan with no consequences is in itself a amazing thing. Let me put it this way, if I had a choice, I would choose eternal Mangekyou. I have yet to be impressed by Rinnegan's power. Th only thing we have seen Pein use is basically an upgraded Kage Bunshin. Whenever he starts mixing up some crazy elemental jutsu's then I will reconsider, but even then I think I'd side with Sharingan.

Originally Posted by penguinism

which is stronger? rinnegan of course...

That is speculation. You have no proof in your claim that Rinnegan is stronger.

[captain1982]

Didn't J-man say that the Rinnegan is 'said' to be the strongest?

As far as we know, nobody has seen the Rin in action for over a century, so Jiraiya is just stating what the commonly held belief was; there's still scope for the Sharingan to be better.

In terms of the rinnegan; it is as good as the sharingan so far from the little we have seen, the uchiha eyes are just more prominent in the story.

[happybuddha]

Alright.. this might be better in the bashing thread...

But I really haven't liked how he literally built on the sharigan and it's supposed awesomeness we now even have an ENTERNAL MS.

And then out of almost no where Kishi makes a very promintant and formidable(and lets say even intimadating) character like Wise-old Jiryaria say something like "OH NO! THE RINNGEGAN! THOSE ARE THE BEST!"

and then we haven't seen anything really happen with them.. Kishi kinda said there basically like the byakuan with a Security Cam System twist...

Personally, I find the Rinnagan underdevopled thus far.. and I've been personally against Kishi bringing in a new eye this late in the manga game...

Honestly, it's oddly too soon to tell... oddly. Even though the ONE drawback of the sharigan is now taken away(thanks, kishi... ) even the highest dude, madera, is considered a failure.. and remember the FIRST took him out.. and supposedly he's not that good... and I wouldn't put it pass Pein to try something "tricky" after Kishi has devloped Madera ALOT more.

So my finall verdict?

Somehow.... er.. too soon to tell, we don't exactly know or seen enough of the Rinngan's abilites... but it certaintly does have some catching up to do...

[arbri]

im pretty sure that kishi has already answered to this question, sharingan is stronger than the reningan, or better the Eternal MS that Madara has is better than the reningan.however in the manga Jiraya said that the renningan was the most powerfull of the doujutsus but i doubt he knew about the MS.

[happybuddha]

Originally Posted by arbri

im pretty sure that kishi has already answered to this question, sharingan is stronger than the reningan, or better the Eternal MS that Madara has is better than the reningan.however in the manga Jiraya said that the renningan was the most powerfull of the doujutsus but i doubt he knew about the MS.

But isn't like winning by defult? Or by technicality?

Seriously.. thats a pretty bold statement for Kishi to have Jiryaira to say

that would be like.. umm...

Everybody in the manga saying that the first won against Madera and then Madera and like.. pssft I dont know, Zetsu being like

"well, techincally, thats not how it happened, persay..."


Bad example.. but in either case, why would Kishi make up a new Dojustu.. especially NOW, when it's

A) In the middle of the manga

B) Another eye dojustu KG hasn't been eleborated... at all.. really. (the byakuan)...

and

C) When Kishi has whored the hell out of the Shargian to literally Eternal levels, now...

Serioualy. He should of just titled the manga

"The bad ass kid with The Eyes that can't lose.. oh and the kid who tries really hard in an orange jumpsuit..."

And he probably would have, but it would have been too long to but on the Volume Covers.

[arbri]

^^ im sure no one knew about the MS Sharingan, now my point is this, if Madara orders Pain around than he is somehow stronger than him, i hope you agree on that.i ve said that already, when a character says something, its not absolute truth, i.e thay say what they know, Jiraya thought that the renningan was a legend until he saw yahiko, so based on what he had heard he said that the renningan was the most powerfull doujutsu there existed, however you have to confrontate them to be sure.im not saying that madara is undefeatable, actually im glad that there was someone that could defeat him, this means that most probavly there will be another person who will defeat him again(naruto, or sasuke, or maybe itachi).i just think that the fact that Madara is the leader of the Akatsuki(i think of them as the most powerfull shinobi of the time) is proof of his power.

[Shinobi-kun]

why is everyone trying to kil the sharingan? I admit, the sharingan has been hyped up a great deal, but its backed up its abilities. Not to mention that we've seen people who are able to combat the sharingan ( DD, Chiyo-baa and her technique for battling the sharingan, Gai's solution to fighting the sharingan by looking only at their feet), so the sharingan isnt all powerful. Plus having the immense drawback of causing blindness; the actual use of the sharingan isnt easy. And then we have the rinnegan, which was basically introduced to either combat both the sharingan and the kyuubi (argueably the two strongest abilities in Naruto); or to be Naruto's ultmate nemesis as Itachi and now Madara have become for Sasuke.

Leave the sharingan alone man, its badass, not undefeatable, just badass.

[usn014]

to me its controlling kyuubi > having your own gang and jumping people

[Victory21]

the way i look at it, is that da sharingan is da stronger doujutsu currently. especially with all da recent revelations going on. but kishi made a point of saying da rinnengan was da most powerful doujutsu. so i'm thinking if he should go back on his words then he's just kissing da uchiha ass. so i say lets wait and see, dont worry naruto's meeting with pein in da future will let you know why, kishi said so.

[zamimaro]

well... basically I think what kishi is trying to do is showing how a doujutsu could be the most powerful and the most fearsome jutsu, if and only if the user is good at exploring it...

so far, he has shown 3 major sharingan users until Madara popped out, which turns out the 'starter' of MS... remember, the starter is still alive, and that what it makes the total power of it is achievable so the other users have target to follow...

as for Rinnegan, we know from history and by fact it's the strongest of all doujutsus, what else, the starter of any jutsus... obviously it's the strongest... but for Pain, he doesn't really gets the show since we don't know what is the limit...

we know, what Madara has achieve is immortality and I think he's still seeking for revenge... and his seniority and immortality what makes the others respect him, including Pain...

for Pain, he might unaware of what extension can sharingan go, and I'm not sure if he will explore more the power of Rinnegan, as Kishi makes him of not really proud of his own rinnegan (like Madara did)... thus, the credits received more by sharingan, which will eventually makes it stronger than rinnegan...

[Sasori da God]

renniganprobably has some type of ultimate jutsu we havent seen like maybe he needs his original body for it

[Evil Sannin]

apparently the Rin'negan is suppose to be stronger but that doesn't seem like the case. I mean first it was the Rin'negan, then came the Byakugan, and lastly the Sharingan, yet the Sharingan which is the final brand of the eye techniques seems to be the strongest and I don't get it. Might as well had the other eye techniques branch off from the damn sharingan

[Afro_Sannin]

Originally Posted by usn014

i was thinkin bout this cause jiraiya said the rinnegan is better...but he didnt know about the mangeyou sharingan or its abilities...id rather fight 6 pains than the nine tails...well thats how i look at it

??? Who ever said that Jiraiya didnt know about the MAngenkyou sharingan.... Have you forgotten that Jiraiya was pobbably the BEST shinobi in the village at gathering info. We never knew for certain what his source was, but his recog skills were unparrellelled. I mean he snuck into pains city inside a frog, pain didnt know untill he emerged. Its possible that this was the tecnique he used to spy on all his endevours.

Anyways Jiraiya most definately knew about MS and itachis MS... he just had never seen the black flame before.

-- And did you forget already !!!! Jiraiya right now in the manga is the only person that seems to know anything about Uchiha MAdara other than Itachi... I mean he told tsunade that Madara summoned the kuubi all those years back... hmmmmm how could he know that and he doesnt even know about MS....lol he knows about MS and probably EMS as well because the fact alone that he knew that madara was the one to summon the kuubi means that he knows a whole deal about MAdara

[elcongo]

ALso...the fact that he was destiny to trable around the World to know every thin..is something...so how you going to explain why Itachi ran away from jiraiya....Itachi knew that Jiraiya knew aabout the Sharinga thing...or MS.