Is Kakashi Really Hokage Material??? Poll!!!

[DojiSan]

Originally Posted by Reliic

I am fully aware that before Jiraiya died he gave up Kakashi and Naruto's name to be future hokages........my only question is that can Kakashi actually do it?

As much as I complain, I do value your varied judgements and I want to see what Narutomania thinks.

I unfortunately have never seen Kakashi have a large scale battle that incorporated large summons and all kinds of Kage rank jutsus. Hell can Kakashi protect the thousands of villagers and stll be able to fend off kage level nins>??? Does he even have the jutsus for it???

Thats the question I am asking you. We know naruto has the jutsu knowledge but not the maturity, and clearly Kakashi is the reverse.

Although I voted yes, kakashi seems to be lacking something that is needed to be hokage material. I just can't get my finger on it.. he is very smart though.

[Yoshitsune]

So far only 5 Shinobi took this title in konoha history,as we know hokage is the strongest of all +have a lot of knowledge about jutsu fighting ...ect and aren't chosen randomly ......although kakashi has good knowledge in fighting......but he still lack at doing hokage's assignment and he will be given a specific place to live in and he won't able to get out of konoha & enjoy his life as he used to,not to forgot that he always arrived late in a appointment...........which isn't what a hokage has to do

((that's what came in mind for now ))

[Poncho Sama]

Originally Posted by Yoshitsune

So far only 5 Shinobi took this title in konoha history,as we know hokage is the strongest of all +have a lot of knowledge about jutsu fighting ...ect and aren't chosen randomly ......although kakashi has good knowledge in fighting......but he still lack at doing hokage's assignment and he will be given a specific place to live in and he won't able to get out of konoha & enjoy his life as he used to,not to forgot that he always arrived late in a appointment...........which isn't what a hokage has to do

((that's what i came in mind for now ))

The point that only five shinobi have attained this rank is sort of a moot point. The village has only been around for about 90 years so five is actually a lot. Three with in three years would be even worse.

Kakashi seems smart enough to be hokage. I think in terms of strategy he is better than Tsunade. But again I still don't think he is powerful enough. He needs more chakra reserves or a kick ass summon.

[Flame_Master]

^ Especially, he needs more chakra. In the most of the fights he has participated, he looks exhausted. Come on Kishi ^^

[loom]

Experience and intellect wise, hell yes, BUT, he isnt powerful enough and is a super pervert at that.

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by loom

Experience and intellect wise, hell yes, BUT, he isnt powerful enough and is a super pervert at that.

What does that have to do with being Hokage? The Third was a pervert too and he was a fine Hokage.

[The stig]

Experience and intellect wise, hell yes, BUT, he isnt powerful enough and is a super pervert at that.

Clearly you haven't seen the databook 3 thread.

I mean, according to the new databook, kakashi's stats are better than tsunade's, who is the current hokage...

It's even more clear why she said kakashi as hokage and why jiraiya said "Kakashi's a given"

[loom]

He just doesnt seem like someone who would take the hokage thing very serious and I picture him rejecting the offer just like jiraiya did. I have seen the databook but I wouldn't base my judgement absolutely on those. From what I've seen of kakashi, he's stamina is really lacking and the sharingan of his takes a serious toll on him whenever he uses a very powerful sharingan move (id say he's better off without it). Besides these, he's perfect hokage material and is the best konoha has got for now.

[ifeanyi84]

kakashi has plenty of chakra. going back to that kakuzu fight, you see that he was using and overusing the raikiri, while fighting both kakuzu and hidan, and protecting ino and chouji. even with all that, he still wasnt hurting for chakra. he had enough chakra left to where he said he could have pulled off his MS technique if he needed to. chakra is not an issue for kakshi, especially considering that he has enough brain and skills to use his chakra judiciously in a fight. in my mind, kakashi is definitely hokage material because he possesses all of the requisite qualities of a hokage. as jiraiya pointed out, however, it would not be a good thing for konoha if he actually had to become the hokage any time soon.

[The stig]

He just doesnt seem like someone who would take the hokage thing very serious and I picture him rejecting the offer just like jiraiya did. I have seen the databook but I wouldn't base my judgement absolutely on those. From what I've seen of kakashi, he's stamina is really lacking and the sharingan of his takes a serious toll on him whenever he uses a very powerful sharingan move (id say he's better off without it). Besides these, he's perfect hokage material and is the best konoha has got for now.

You've just said why he's hokage material...

He's the best konoha has right now.

The kage is the best in the village...

So if kakashi's the best, he's hokage material.

We aren't basing this purely on his attitude, it's more EVERYTHING.

And unfortunately, his attitude comes to next to nothing since the stats say otherwise.

Also, if kakashi's attitude isn't fit for hokage, then naruto's clearly isn't. Mind you, neither is tsunade's, or the 3rds...

After all, you said "he's a perv" so was the 3rd, a big one.

[DemiGod.PBm]

How much has Kakashi improved since the start of the manga... since his fight with Zabuza? Despite his obvious increase in stamina, he refrains from using big jutsu (excluding MS jutsu). Surely he can perform jutsu on the same level as Sarutobi [old] and yet his performance against Kakuza was shamefully poor. What makes him a better candidate for Hokage than Gai?

Hell, if he goes blind in that Sharingan eye he's screwed!

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

How much has Kakashi improved since the start of the manga... since his fight with Zabuza? Despite his obvious increase in stamina, he refrains from using big jutsu (excluding MS jutsu). Surely he can perform jutsu on the same level as Sarutobi [old] and yet his performance against Kakuza was shamefully poor. What makes him a better candidate for Hokage than Gai?

Hell, if he goes blind in that Sharingan eye he's screwed!

He's stats in the new Databook say he's right behind Orochimaru in power. Gai is an idiot, it also takes intelligence to be Hokage and Gai is not very smart. And if two Sanin both agree that he can be Hokage, then he can. They may have seen great things and skill from Kakashi that we haven't yet. He did better than any other ninja could have done against Kakuzu. You think Gai would've been smart enough to figure out Kakuzu had five hearts, then manage to destroy three of them? Put another Jonin against Kakuzu and see how they do. Not to mention that Kakashi was fighting this guy alone, with no help because Chouji and Ino sure as hell weren't dong anything but watching, and in the way. Kakuzu is a ninja that fought with the First Hokage and got away alive, he is obviously a strong S-rank ninja and it may be hard to kill an S-rank ninja five times. Kakashi managed to kill him three times, that's good. Kakashi took out two hearts before Naruto showed up and the last heart when he killed him. And Kakashi doesn't need the Sharingan to be a good ninja. He graduated from the academy at the age of 5, became a Chunin at the age of 6 and a Jonin at the age of 12, and these accomplishments were without Sharingan. If anything, the Sharigan holds him back because it drains too much of his chakra. If he were to lose his Sharigan, he'd be stronger because he'd be able to fight without Sharingan constantly draining hs chakra. Meaning he'd be able to use more 'and more powerful' jutsu.

[DemiGod.PBm]

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

He's stats in the new Databook say he's right behind Orochimaru in power. Gai is an idiot, it also takes intelligence to be Hokage and Gai is not very smart. And if two Sanin both agree that he can be Hokage, then he can. They may have seen great things and skill from Kakashi that we haven't yet. He did better than any other ninja could have done against Kakuzu. You think Gai would've been smart enough to figure out Kakuzu had five hearts, then manage to destroy three of them? Put another Jonin against Kakuzu and see how they do. Not to mention that Kakashi was fighting this guy alone, with no help because Chouji and Ino sure as hell weren't dong anything but watching, and in the way. Kakuzu is a ninja that fought with the First Hokage and got away alive, he is obviously a strong S-rank ninja and it may be hard to kill an S-rank ninja five times. Kakashi managed to kill him three times, that's good. Kakashi took out two hearts before Naruto showed up and the last heart when he killed him. And Kakashi doesn't need the Sharingan to be a good ninja. He graduated from the academy at the age of 5, became a Chunin at the age of 6 and a Jonin at the age of 12, and these accomplishments were without Sharingan. If anything, the Sharigan holds him back because it drains too much of his chakra. If he were to lose his Sharigan, he'd be stronger because he'd be able to fight without Sharingan constantly draining hs chakra. Meaning he'd be able to use more 'and more powerful' jutsu.

You seem to have forgotten that it is in fact the Sharingan that has allowed him to gain his arsenal of over 1000 jutsu - He'd be a lot better off without the Sharingan, I'm sure.

Things were different back when Kakashi was growing up - War played a big part in his promotion.

Kakashi destroyed the first heart using a sneak attack, so it doesn't count. Shikamaru tricked Hidan into taking out the second heart. Naruto took out two hearts... Kakashi killed a dying bear - Ino could have done that.

So what if Kakazu fought Hashirama? Can you give an account of their battle... the circumstances that allowed him to survive? For all I know, he got slapped about and took to go home.

Gai is an idiot? Kakashi can open one celestial gate. Gai can open eight. Given Kakashi's commentary of Lee's ability to open the celestial gates, it's not something any chimp can do.

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

You seem to have forgotten that it is in fact the Sharingan that has allowed him to gain his arsenal of over 1000 jutsu - He'd be a lot better off without the Sharingan, I'm sure.

Things were different back when Kakashi was growing up - War played a big part in his promotion.

Kakashi destroyed the first heart using a sneak attack, so it doesn't count. Shikamaru tricked Hidan into taking out the second heart. Naruto took out two hearts... Kakashi killed a dying bear - Ino could have done that.

So what if Kakazu fought Hashirama? Can you give an account of their battle... the circumstances that allowed him to survive? For all I know, he got slapped about and took to go home.

Gai is an idiot? Kakashi can open one celestial gate. Gai can open eight. Given Kakashi's commentary of Lee's ability to open the celestial gates, it's not something any chimp can do.

Kakashi may not have gotten the one thousan jutsu, but he would've trained to aquire some more powerful jutsu, we hardly ever see him use anyting other than Chidori anyway. Kakashi can also open Gates and he just has more sense than Gai.. So what if there was a war when Kakashi was growing up? If anything it means that the standards for ninja was probably higher, because thye'd only want the most experienced ninja fighting. What's the point of sending ninja out if they weren't ready, you're just sending them to their death and that won't help in a war. Kakashi sneaking up on Kakuzu does count. Stealth is part of being a ninja, sometimes you have to be smart enough to know when to hide and strike. It's like a snake, they hide and wait when the time is right to attack and that's smart, it's how they get the prey. Being a ninja isn't always about brute force, it's about strategy, if you just charge in without knowing anthing about your enemy, that's dumb, that's how you get killed.

[DemiGod.PBm]

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

Kakashi may not have gotten the one thousan jutsu, but he would've trained to aquire some more powerful jutsu, we hardly ever see him use anyting other than Chidori anyway. Kakashi can also open Gates and he just has more sense than Gai.

I already know that Kakashi spams chidori, his choice not to use other jutsu was one of the points I had already made.

Kakashi has only shown the ability to open one gate, so don't say he has more sense than Gai, who can open eight.

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

So what if there was a war when Kakashi was growing up? If anything it means that the standards for ninja was probably higher, because thye'd only want the most experienced ninja fighting. What's the point of sending ninja out if they weren't ready, you're just sending them to their death and that won't help in a war.

Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. The fact that Minato had to separate from his team and fight alone should prove that they needed as many nin as possible. Toy soldiers are a perfect example of what can happen when a situation becomes dire.

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

Kakashi sneaking up on Kakuzu does count. Stealth is part of being a ninja, sometimes you have to be smart enough to know when to hide and strike. It's like a snake, they hide and wait when the time is right to attack and that's smart, it's how they get the prey. Being a ninja isn't always about brute force, it's about strategy, if you just charge in without knowing anthing about your enemy, that's dumb, that's how you get killed.

It doesn't count, because Kakuza was preoccupied. Had Kakashi been sent to kill Kakuza on his own, he would have been detected. Kakashi destroyed no hearts in a one on one situation.

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

I already know that Kakashi spams chidori, his choice not to use other jutsu was one of the points I had already made.

Kakashi has only shown the ability to open one gate, so don't say he has more sense than Gai, who can open eight.



Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. The fact that Minato had to separate from his team and fight alone should prove that they needed as many nin as possible. Toy soldiers are a perfect example of what can happen when a situation becomes dire.



It doesn't count, because Kakuza was preoccupied. Had Kakashi been sent to kill Kakuza on his own, he would have been detected. Kakashi destroyed no hearts in a one on one situation.

I don't think anyone can see Gai behind a desk, running a village, he may not be dumb, but he's not smart enough to run a village. Which may be why Tsunade nor Jiraiya recognized him, for that matter. Minato may have left, but Kakashi was still with Obito and Rin and Kakashi & Obito were strong enough to take care of themselves, they stood a chance and Obito was the one that may have gotten promoted earlier because he's an Uchiha, if anything. Rin was the weak one that got captured and caused the problem, but she was a medic ninja so she's not experienced with combat. About Kakashi's promotion, he would have had to work harder to be recognized as a worthy ninja because his father was a disgrace, so Kakashi would've had to work even harder to prove he was advanced and good enough to be a Jonin and protect the village.

[DemiGod.PBm]

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

I don't think anyone can see Gai behind a desk, running a village, he may not be dumb, but he's not smart enough to run a village.

Says who? Do you know what Tsunade does? Kages have advisors. Gaara was still a child when he became kage.

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

Minato may have left, but Kakashi was still with Obito and Rin and Kakashi & Obito were strong enough to take care of themselves, they stood a chance and Obito was the one that may have gotten promoted earlier because he's an Uchiha, if anything. Rin was the weak one that got captured and caused the problem, but she was a medic ninja so she's not experienced with combat.

You've missed my point.

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

About Kakashi's promotion, he would have had to work harder to be recognized as a worthy ninja because his father was a disgrace, so Kakashi would've had to work even harder to prove he was advanced and good enough to be a Jonin and protect the village.

That may have been the case in Kakashi's mind, but I doubt his father's dishonour was ever used to hinder his progress.

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

Says who? Do you know what Tsunade does? Kages have advisors. Gaara was still a child when he became kage.

You've missed my point.

That may have been the case in Kakashi's mind, but I doubt his father's dishonour was ever used to hinder his progress.

Like the case you made with Gai, how do you know it wasn't used to hinder his progree?

[DemiGod.PBm]

Originally Posted by jasminegreen

Like the case you made with Gai, how do you know it wasn't used to hinder his progree?

I made an assumption, where you posted as fact. It has never been stated that the village had an issue with Kakashi because of his father - Kakashi Gaiden would most like have addressed this issue were it a fact.

Either way, none this proves that Kakashi is Hokage material.

[jasminegreen]

Originally Posted by DemiGod.PBm

I made an assumption, where you posted as fact. It has never been stated that the village had an issue with Kakashi because of his father - Kakashi Gaiden would most like have addressed this issue were it a fact.

Either way, none this proves that Kakashi is Hokage material.

Nothing you stated proves that he isn't Hokage Material .