Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. - Page 27

edwin8099 · 13-03-2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by naffizi

I Think Kishsis Point Is Simple....sasuke Is Not a Ninja Worthy Enough To Beat Itachi...

Kishi Had To End This Shit Somehow....and I Think He Wanted To Show Sasukes Growth

And Aslo Show Why Itachi Is The Most Feared Uchia Since Madara

At The End Of The Day Am Guessing Kishi Wanted Us To Know Of All Sharingan Weilders Sasuke Is Still The Weakest

In Other Words Having Seen How Helpless He Was ....with Itachi...to The Extent He Almost Lost Himself To Oro

He Will Train Harder Thinking Every Day Damn.....!

"even After All The Drugs, And Detaching Myself From My Village I Almost Persihsed, Am I that Weak?"

I Think Its Better Itachi Dies From Exhaustion Cuz Sasuke Is Not The Nin Worthy Enough To Stuff Him

Plus....sasuke Did Not Willingly Release Oro...he Had No Option He Was Desperate

ONE MORE THING TO REMEMBER ITACHI RUNNNIN FROM J-MAN WHEN HE COULD HAVE USED SUSANO MAKES ME RESPECT J-MAN EVEN MORE....

You make good points but those are only valid if Sasuke admits he was wrong for leaving the village and seeking power for revenge. I dont belive sasuke wil admit how stupid he was. Do you really think he is ready to go back to the villge? Not...

SeanMuir · 13-03-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by naffizi

I Think Kishsis Point Is Simple....sasuke Is Not a Ninja Worthy Enough To Beat Itachi...

Kishi Had To End This Shit Somehow....and I Think He Wanted To Show Sasukes Growth

And Aslo Show Why Itachi Is The Most Feared Uchia Since Madara

At The End Of The Day Am Guessing Kishi Wanted Us To Know Of All Sharingan Weilders Sasuke Is Still The Weakest

In Other Words Having Seen How Helpless He Was ....with Itachi...to The Extent He Almost Lost Himself To Oro

He Will Train Harder Thinking Every Day Damn.....!

"even After All The Drugs, And Detaching Myself From My Village I Almost Persihsed, Am I that Weak?"

I Think Its Better Itachi Dies From Exhaustion Cuz Sasuke Is Not The Nin Worthy Enough To Stuff Him

Plus....sasuke Did Not Willingly Release Oro...he Had No Option He Was Desperate

ONE MORE THING TO REMEMBER ITACHI RUNNNIN FROM J-MAN WHEN HE COULD HAVE USED SUSANO MAKES ME RESPECT J-MAN EVEN MORE....

What?

How could Sasuke possibly think he is weak after this fight? So what if he was helpless at the end, look at Itachi? He is almost literally dead on his feet.

Believe me I didn't want Sasuke to win this fight, I wanted Itachi to casually pluck the eyes from his skull and leave him to bleed.

And I think that the fight that so far best shows his growth is still the Diedara one.

MasterTragedy · 13-03-2008, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by naffizi

I Think Kishsis Point Is Simple....sasuke Is Not a Ninja Worthy Enough To Beat Itachi...

Kishi Had To End This Shit Somehow....and I Think He Wanted To Show Sasukes Growth

And Aslo Show Why Itachi Is The Most Feared Uchia Since Madara

At The End Of The Day Am Guessing Kishi Wanted Us To Know Of All Sharingan Weilders Sasuke Is Still The Weakest

In Other Words Having Seen How Helpless He Was ....with Itachi...to The Extent He Almost Lost Himself To Oro

He Will Train Harder Thinking Every Day Damn.....!

"even After All The Drugs, And Detaching Myself From My Village I Almost Persihsed, Am I that Weak?"

I Think Its Better Itachi Dies From Exhaustion Cuz Sasuke Is Not The Nin Worthy Enough To Stuff Him

Plus....sasuke Did Not Willingly Release Oro...he Had No Option He Was Desperate

ONE MORE THING TO REMEMBER ITACHI RUNNNIN FROM J-MAN WHEN HE COULD HAVE USED SUSANO MAKES ME RESPECT J-MAN EVEN MORE....

I believe/agree with pretty much everything stated.

We have all been thinking along the lines that Sasuke is only gonna get more depressed/emo after this fight for even though he won the fight, he lost the war to itachi and realizes now that the gap between them was still very present.

This does still show that Sasuke is the weakest of the sharingan weilders, no matter how much you love sasuke. (I swear to god next person I see who says sasuke could take kakashi is gettin ignored

)

I think this was an acceptable way to end the fight, especially if Itachi pokes sasuke in the head on purpose.

While we know Itachi had susanno at the time, he probably didn't have the chakra reserves to use it without winding up in the position he is now. He did use Tys x2 before then. Dunno if that would have been the best time to pop susanno unless absolutely necessary.

Rurouni272000 · 13-03-2008, 03:29 AM

The top right panel of that picture MuKen posted on page 25 only shows that Sasuke is on fire, directly after which Sasuke used Oro's replacement to make a new body and escape the flames. The next page posted shows black smudges, not Amaterasu going away. At that point Amaterasu is gone and all that's left of Sasuke's lower body are smudges on the cement.

It doesn't matter; the point is that even if Itachi had continued Amaterasu until Sasuke's entire body was burnt to ash and then waited 7 days until the fire itself burnt out, Sasuke would have been alive because he used Oro's replacement to to produce a new body out of his own and escape Amaterasu. Those that say Sasuke would have been done for if Itachi hadn't stopped Amaterasu are mistaken; he was safely within the building with a new body far before Itachi stopped the technique, what was getting burned to a crisp was his leftover body.

MasterTragedy · 13-03-2008, 03:52 AM

My goodness...

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Itachi going for eyes version...

Itachi uses Ameratsu to stop katon-stops cause was afraid of harming sasuke's eyes (Thats 1st)

Uses 2nd Ameratsu to attempt to burn sasuke alive

Sasuke uses replacment tech and lives, fires katons through roof (Itachi's F'd up and tired...) (Thats 2 ameratsus)

Sasuke stands there and prepares Kirin, exc exc

*********

Ok now for If Itachi going for kill

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Itachi continues full powered ameratsu after it consumes sasuke's katon

Sasuke thinking quickly uses rep technique and escapes (Thats 1 ameratsu down and Sasuke's used his rep tech which he can only supposedly do once)

Itachi thinks he's won

Katons through roof (probably still gets hit/singed w/e)

Sasuke is standing there looking up at Itachi preparing Kirin (defenseless and out of chakra)

Itachi uses (2nd!!!) ameratsu on a chakraless sasuke...he's fucked

*******

Story over. If had been for kill Sasuke would have been done for. susanno wouldn't have been required.

Pookie · 13-03-2008, 03:56 AM

no way itachi is dead. He died for using too much chakra? WTF thats so stupid, why would Itachi even do that? get the fuck out

Insin · 13-03-2008, 03:57 AM

The picture shows Sasuke coming out of something, which presumably looks like his old body. Had Itachi burnt him completely with Amatserasu, Sasuke would have died.

The way Kishi wrote this fight, was set up for Itachi to lose conditionally

Sasuke did not deal the final blow, and appears to not be directly responsible for Itachi's death, although he had a great deal to do with it. In short, he came up short. Just because Itachi dies and Sasuke lives doesn't mean Sasuke is better. You cannot dismiss the fact that Orochimaru contributed. He's not a weapon for Sasuke, he just happened to attack Itachi because he too wanted Sasuke's body. No matter how you cut it, Sasuke won but not soley by himself. These spoilers seem to cement that fact. The look of surprise on Sasuke's fight should be a big indicator to you all that he didn't anticipate "winning" at that point.

zamimaro · 13-03-2008, 03:59 AM

ok now... whose snake is that??? Oro or Sasuke?

~~Plot No Jutsu~~ · 13-03-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zamimaro

ok now... whose snake is that??? Oro or Sasuke?

Look at the snakes eyes.

zamimaro · 13-03-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Plot No Jutsu

Look at the snakes eyes.

negative... too small for me to see...

Vengefullangel · 13-03-2008, 05:30 AM

Here's my take on the fight. If you want to disagree, go ahead.

Here is how I'm defining the fight:

The first half of the description that Tragedy used is accurate except that Itachi used his first Amaterasu to attack Sasuke and his second to block a direct hit from the dragon katons, re-read the chapter where the dragon katons appear if you don't believe me. After Tragedy's description ends, Itachi recovers from using his second Amaterasu in a short time and Sasuke uses Kirin. Kirin hits, because it always hits, of course, but it is blocked by Susanoo's mirror (if we go by the spoilers). Sasuke is out of chakra.

Susanoo is about to attack. Orochimaru delays Sasuke's defeat by jumping out. Orochimaru is easily defeated, but a tired Itachi, who used 1 Tsukyomi, 2 Amaterasu, and 1 Susanoo, collapses/dies.

Here's how I am interpreting it: Sasuke's victory over Orochimaru, though cheap, entitled him to the ability of letting Orochimaru go whenever it best benefited Sasuke. He may not have planned it or realized it, but it was a usable technique (or plot device, if you insist on calling it that).

Kirin would have hit if Itachi had not used Susanoo to block, which is, apparently, the most draining of the MS techniques because it uses both eyes. While Amaterasu would have been able to burn through the lightning, Itachi would have had to see the lightning before it hit him, timing it perfectly: he was half blind, it wasn't a possibility.

The fact that Sasuke forced Susanoo out, after forcing 3 MS techniques, and then, through Orochimaru, was able to delay his own defeat, gave him the ability to outlast Itachi.

What is the actual result? It was a draw. Sasuke couldn't even move from all the effort that he gave (c'mon, he's just going to stand there while Itachi reaches for his eyes because he wants to?). The fact that he's still conscious is actually rather surprising. He should have become unconscious right after Orochimaru got out of him. The change in his body should have been enough to knock him out. Both fighters are incapacitated, and I personally don't really believe that Itachi is completely dead yet until we see the chapter.

MasterTragedy · 13-03-2008, 05:59 AM

^First used to stop Sasuke's Katon...(1st Ameratsu)

Naruto 389 page 15 | One Manga

*Stops to keep from killing sasuke at bottom...

Naruto 390 page 02 | One Manga

(Sasuke would have had to rep out of there to live at this point which he can only use once (supposedly) *If Itachi had been going for kill

Then 2nd ameratsu would have been used to roast him while he prepared Kirin later like you know sasuke would have attempted...

bbh2706 · 13-03-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tragedy

My goodness...

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Itachi going for eyes version...

Itachi uses Ameratsu to stop katon-stops cause was afraid of harming sasuke's eyes (Thats 1st)

Uses 2nd Ameratsu to attempt to burn sasuke alive

Sasuke uses replacment tech and lives, fires katons through roof (Itachi's F'd up and tired...) (Thats 2 ameratsus)

Sasuke stands there and prepares Kirin, exc exc

*********

Ok now for If Itachi going for kill

*********

Itachi continues full powered ameratsu after it consumes sasuke's katon

Sasuke thinking quickly uses rep technique and escapes (Thats 1 ameratsu down and Sasuke's used his rep tech which he can only supposedly do once)

Itachi thinks he's won

Katons through roof (probably still gets hit/singed w/e)

Sasuke is standing there looking up at Itachi preparing Kirin (defenseless and out of chakra)

Itachi uses (2nd!!!) ameratsu on a chakraless sasuke...he's fucked

*******

Story over. If had been for kill Sasuke would have been done for. susanno wouldn't have been required.

Your argument would be completely valid IF all your assumptions were valid. However, it is never stated that Itachi discontinued the 1st Amaterasu because he was afraid of hurting Sasukes eyes.

Not only is it never stated, it appears that Itachi's first Amaterasu only consumed the Katon before he stopped it due to pain or inability to continue a sustained burst. You can argue this point all you like, but until you give some evidence to support your assumption that Itachi discontinued the first Amaterasu by design and not out of nessecity, your argument does not have any weight.

MasterTragedy · 13-03-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bbh2706

Your argument would be completely valid IF all your assumptions were valid. However, it is never stated that Itachi discontinued the 1st Amaterasu because he was afraid of hurting Sasukes eyes.

Not only is it never stated, it appears that Itachi's first Amaterasu only consumed the Katon before he stopped it due to pain or inability to continue a sustained burst. You can argue this point all you like, but until you give some evidence to support your assumption that Itachi discontinued the first Amaterasu by design and not out of nessecity, your argument does not have any weight.

Read last post pls. *And judging from how close it was, and how (massive) it was in scale, he had to shut it off or he risked incinerating sasuke. If it hurt so bad or whatever, he wouldn't have used it again so quickly afterwards...

bbh2706 · 13-03-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tragedy

Read last post pls. *And judging from how close it was, and how (massive) it was in scale, he had to shut it off or he risked incinerating sasuke. If it hurt so bad or whatever, he wouldn't have used it again so quickly afterwards...

Your post != evidence to support your argument

lWildfirel · 13-03-2008, 06:28 AM

lol's if the spoilers are right thats the best ending ever. Itachi doesnt go down by Sasuke's hand but just simply dies and in the proces he taps him in the head like he used to when he was little. How is this ironic ? Because it takes us back to "Little brother big brother time" meaning that little brother you weren,t strong enough to kill me. Thats all you were ever be, Itachi's little brother.

Rurouni272000 · 13-03-2008, 06:50 AM

Who's to say that Itachi had a choice in "turning off" Amaterasu after he used it to consume Sasuke's Katon the first time? I assume that he used it and it was out of juice after eating Sas's fire, or else there would have been no reason for him to stop it just to do another. For some reason he couldn't use the first Amaterasu to attack Sasuke, so don't assume that he could have and just pwned Sasuke.

And Sasuke was IN THE BUILDING outside of his OLD BODY that was being BURNED by Amaterasu when the fire was only perhaps burning half of his body. The body that Itachi's scond Amaterasu charred to a black smudge on the roof was the FAKE ONE left behind by Orochimaru's replacement technique. Sasuke didn't survive because Itachi wen't easy on him--the first Amaterasu for some reason (fatigue, power, chakra, w/e) was not used to attack Sasuke. The second one hit him with FULL INTENT to kill him (hence the fact that Sasuke's chest and head are the only things left after Amaterasu goes away) BUT Sasuke used Oro's replacement to get out of getting burned to ash.

So Sasuke surviving has nothing to do with Itachi being easy on him or making mistake, in fact, just the opposite. Itachi used three main techniques this fight: all three of his godly MS ones, each which should allow him to win in basically one hit. It was a risky but strategic move, considering Itachi's chakra and eyesight and that he obviously wanted to get this over with quickly to claim his prize. Sasuke outplayed him on everything but Susano'o, and it looks like Itachi outplayed himself on that one.

bbh2706 · 13-03-2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rurouni272000

Who's to say that Itachi had a choice in "turning off" Amaterasu after he used it to consume Sasuke's Katon the first time? I assume that he used it and it was out of juice after eating Sas's fire, or else there would have been no reason for him to stop it just to do another. For some reason he couldn't use the first Amaterasu to attack Sasuke, so don't assume that he could have and just pwned Sasuke.

And Sasuke was IN THE BUILDING outside of his OLD BODY that was being BURNED by Amaterasu when the fire was only perhaps burning half of his body. The body that Itachi's scond Amaterasu charred to a black smudge on the roof was the FAKE ONE left behind by Orochimaru's replacement technique. Sasuke didn't survive because Itachi wen't easy on him--the first Amaterasu for some reason (fatigue, power, chakra, w/e) was not used to attack Sasuke. The second one hit him with FULL INTENT to kill him (hence the fact that Sasuke's chest and head are the only things left after Amaterasu goes away) BUT Sasuke used Oro's replacement to get out of getting burned to ash.

So Sasuke surviving has nothing to do with Itachi being easy on him or making mistake, in fact, just the opposite. Itachi used three main techniques this fight: all three of his godly MS ones, each which should allow him to win in basically one hit. It was a risky but strategic move, considering Itachi's chakra and eyesight and that he obviously wanted to get this over with quickly to claim his prize. Sasuke outplayed him on everything but Susano'o, and it looks like Itachi outplayed himself on that one.

This is my take on the fight as well.

I add that Oro's appearance was not planned by Sasuke, but was nessecary for him to win the fight. The power that Sasuke obtained was used up completely in order to overcome MS. He had to get "lucky" in order to do it, but he beat MS using only a normal sharingan and superior preparation.

MasterTragedy · 13-03-2008, 07:10 AM

Are you actually reading what I'm typing? All I've said was if had been for kill (no one can prove why he stopped, my assumption being that he feared losing sasuke eyes since 1st ameratsu was full power, look at the 2nd one and try to tell me it was on the same scale as first) itachi would have forced sasuke replacement technique earlier in match which he can only use once. Itachi would still have 2nd one ready for when sasuke got ready for clouds to form and use Kirin...its not that hard to understand. 1st ameratsu would never have got him regardless, its the 2nd one that would.

Leroy · 13-03-2008, 10:22 AM

what is that it? itachi just falls over aww come on kishi

13-03-2008, 03:29 AM	#524
Rurouni272000 ANBU Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mexi--I mean, Hueco Mundo Posts: 1,372 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. The top right panel of that picture MuKen posted on page 25 only shows that Sasuke is on fire, directly after which Sasuke used Oro's replacement to make a new body and escape the flames. The next page posted shows black smudges, not Amaterasu going away. At that point Amaterasu is gone and all that's left of Sasuke's lower body are smudges on the cement. It doesn't matter; the point is that even if Itachi had continued Amaterasu until Sasuke's entire body was burnt to ash and then waited 7 days until the fire itself burnt out, Sasuke would have been alive because he used Oro's replacement to to produce a new body out of his own and escape Amaterasu. Those that say Sasuke would have been done for if Itachi hadn't stopped Amaterasu are mistaken; he was safely within the building with a new body far before Itachi stopped the technique, what was getting burned to a crisp was his leftover body. __________________

13-03-2008, 03:52 AM	#525
MasterTragedy Medical-nin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spring, Tx Posts: 721 My Mood: Rep Power: 3	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. My goodness... ********************** Itachi going for eyes version... Itachi uses Ameratsu to stop katon-stops cause was afraid of harming sasuke's eyes (Thats 1st) Uses 2nd Ameratsu to attempt to burn sasuke alive Sasuke uses replacment tech and lives, fires katons through roof (Itachi's F'd up and tired...) (Thats 2 ameratsus) Sasuke stands there and prepares Kirin, exc exc ***** Ok now for If Itachi going for kill ***** Itachi continues full powered ameratsu after it consumes sasuke's katon Sasuke thinking quickly uses rep technique and escapes (Thats 1 ameratsu down and Sasuke's used his rep tech which he can only supposedly do once) Itachi thinks he's won Katons through roof (probably still gets hit/singed w/e) Sasuke is standing there looking up at Itachi preparing Kirin (defenseless and out of chakra) Itachi uses (2nd!!!) ameratsu on a chakraless sasuke...he's fucked *** Story over. If had been for kill Sasuke would have been done for. susanno wouldn't have been required. __________________ "Your death will be a mystery, even to me."**

13-03-2008, 03:56 AM	#526
Pookie ANBU Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Miami FLORIDA Posts: 1,482 My Mood: Rep Power: 23	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. no way itachi is dead. He died for using too much chakra? WTF thats so stupid, why would Itachi even do that? get the fuck out __________________ " Calling me obsessive? You must have never known the pleasure of winning."

13-03-2008, 03:57 AM	#527
Insin Hunter-nin Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northeast Posts: 2,348 Rep Power: 20	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. The picture shows Sasuke coming out of something, which presumably looks like his old body. Had Itachi burnt him completely with Amatserasu, Sasuke would have died. The way Kishi wrote this fight, was set up for Itachi to lose conditionally Sasuke did not deal the final blow, and appears to not be directly responsible for Itachi's death, although he had a great deal to do with it. In short, he came up short. Just because Itachi dies and Sasuke lives doesn't mean Sasuke is better. You cannot dismiss the fact that Orochimaru contributed. He's not a weapon for Sasuke, he just happened to attack Itachi because he too wanted Sasuke's body. No matter how you cut it, Sasuke won but not soley by himself. These spoilers seem to cement that fact. The look of surprise on Sasuke's fight should be a big indicator to you all that he didn't anticipate "winning" at that point.

13-03-2008, 05:30 AM	#531
Vengefullangel Genin Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. Here's my take on the fight. If you want to disagree, go ahead. Here is how I'm defining the fight: The first half of the description that Tragedy used is accurate except that Itachi used his first Amaterasu to attack Sasuke and his second to block a direct hit from the dragon katons, re-read the chapter where the dragon katons appear if you don't believe me. After Tragedy's description ends, Itachi recovers from using his second Amaterasu in a short time and Sasuke uses Kirin. Kirin hits, because it always hits, of course, but it is blocked by Susanoo's mirror (if we go by the spoilers). Sasuke is out of chakra. Susanoo is about to attack. Orochimaru delays Sasuke's defeat by jumping out. Orochimaru is easily defeated, but a tired Itachi, who used 1 Tsukyomi, 2 Amaterasu, and 1 Susanoo, collapses/dies. Here's how I am interpreting it: Sasuke's victory over Orochimaru, though cheap, entitled him to the ability of letting Orochimaru go whenever it best benefited Sasuke. He may not have planned it or realized it, but it was a usable technique (or plot device, if you insist on calling it that). Kirin would have hit if Itachi had not used Susanoo to block, which is, apparently, the most draining of the MS techniques because it uses both eyes. While Amaterasu would have been able to burn through the lightning, Itachi would have had to see the lightning before it hit him, timing it perfectly: he was half blind, it wasn't a possibility. The fact that Sasuke forced Susanoo out, after forcing 3 MS techniques, and then, through Orochimaru, was able to delay his own defeat, gave him the ability to outlast Itachi. What is the actual result? It was a draw. Sasuke couldn't even move from all the effort that he gave (c'mon, he's just going to stand there while Itachi reaches for his eyes because he wants to?). The fact that he's still conscious is actually rather surprising. He should have become unconscious right after Orochimaru got out of him. The change in his body should have been enough to knock him out. Both fighters are incapacitated, and I personally don't really believe that Itachi is completely dead yet until we see the chapter. Last edited by Vengefullangel; 13-03-2008 at 05:32 AM.

13-03-2008, 05:59 AM	#532
MasterTragedy Medical-nin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spring, Tx Posts: 721 My Mood: Rep Power: 3	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. ^First used to stop Sasuke's Katon...(1st Ameratsu) Naruto 389 page 15 \| One Manga Stops to keep from killing sasuke at bottom... Naruto 390 page 02 \| One Manga (Sasuke would have had to rep out of there to live at this point which he can only use once (supposedly) If Itachi had been going for kill Then 2nd ameratsu would have been used to roast him while he prepared Kirin later like you know sasuke would have attempted... __________________ "Your death will be a mystery, even to me." Last edited by MasterTragedy; 13-03-2008 at 06:03 AM.

13-03-2008, 06:28 AM	#536
lWildfirel Academy Student Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. lol's if the spoilers are right thats the best ending ever. Itachi doesnt go down by Sasuke's hand but just simply dies and in the proces he taps him in the head like he used to when he was little. How is this ironic ? Because it takes us back to "Little brother big brother time" meaning that little brother you weren,t strong enough to kill me. Thats all you were ever be, Itachi's little brother. __________________

13-03-2008, 06:50 AM	#537
Rurouni272000 ANBU Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mexi--I mean, Hueco Mundo Posts: 1,372 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. Who's to say that Itachi had a choice in "turning off" Amaterasu after he used it to consume Sasuke's Katon the first time? I assume that he used it and it was out of juice after eating Sas's fire, or else there would have been no reason for him to stop it just to do another. For some reason he couldn't use the first Amaterasu to attack Sasuke, so don't assume that he could have and just pwned Sasuke. And Sasuke was IN THE BUILDING outside of his OLD BODY that was being BURNED by Amaterasu when the fire was only perhaps burning half of his body. The body that Itachi's scond Amaterasu charred to a black smudge on the roof was the FAKE ONE left behind by Orochimaru's replacement technique. Sasuke didn't survive because Itachi wen't easy on him--the first Amaterasu for some reason (fatigue, power, chakra, w/e) was not used to attack Sasuke. The second one hit him with FULL INTENT to kill him (hence the fact that Sasuke's chest and head are the only things left after Amaterasu goes away) BUT Sasuke used Oro's replacement to get out of getting burned to ash. So Sasuke surviving has nothing to do with Itachi being easy on him or making mistake, in fact, just the opposite. Itachi used three main techniques this fight: all three of his godly MS ones, each which should allow him to win in basically one hit. It was a risky but strategic move, considering Itachi's chakra and eyesight and that he obviously wanted to get this over with quickly to claim his prize. Sasuke outplayed him on everything but Susano'o, and it looks like Itachi outplayed himself on that one. __________________

13-03-2008, 07:10 AM	#539
MasterTragedy Medical-nin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spring, Tx Posts: 721 My Mood: Rep Power: 3	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. Are you actually reading what I'm typing? All I've said was if had been for kill (no one can prove why he stopped, my assumption being that he feared losing sasuke eyes since 1st ameratsu was full power, look at the 2nd one and try to tell me it was on the same scale as first) itachi would have forced sasuke replacement technique earlier in match which he can only use once. Itachi would still have 2nd one ready for when sasuke got ready for clouds to form and use Kirin...its not that hard to understand. 1st ameratsu would never have got him regardless, its the 2nd one that would. __________________ "Your death will be a mystery, even to me."

13-03-2008, 10:22 AM	#540
Leroy Niju Shōtai Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: on the throne! Posts: 5,118 My Mood: Rep Power: 18	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 393 spoiler discussion thread. what is that it? itachi just falls over aww come on kishi __________________