Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion.

[NarutoSamaman]

Originally Posted by konohaavid

How many people have you seen in his age group other then Konohamaru's own friends... Dopey friends I might add...

Yeah they are dopey lol but you get the feeling he's good and is very talented for his age group. Agree we haven't seen his age group but he seemed to become very mature for his age after encountering Naruto.

[Uchihaeyez]

Originally Posted by konohaavid

No, the requirements were clearly stated. Kill your best friend for Mangekyou, and steal your brothers eyes for eternal Mangekyou.

Yes but think about it?

Why your best friend?

Because you must sacrifice a very special bond.

Sasuke holds his fraternal bonds of hatred with Itachi to be sacred.

[Sdsky]

Originally Posted by Uchihaeyez

Yes but think about it?

Why your best friend?

Because you must sacrifice a very special bond.

Sasuke holds his fraternal bonds of hatred with Itachi to be sacred.

reason y i think he have the EMS

[nejix321]

I thought this chapter was really awesome, I just hate when they give you a severe cliffhanger like that.

@Sdsky: What makes you think that would give him EMS, it would only give him Mangekyou Sharingan.

[AshBlade]

I hope Kisame wins against all team hebi. I know a lot of peps are gonna hate me for this, but i think he coulda taken Itachi

[nejix321]

I also hope he tears Hebi a new ego, but I don't think he could have taken Itachi.

[AshBlade]

But what could Itachi do against Hidan?? He could genjutsu rape him all day and he wouldnt die. Hidan would just have to hit him once... and its over like that.

[Nakano]

Originally Posted by AshBlade

But what could Itachi do against Hidan?? He could genjutsu rape him all day and he wouldnt die. Hidan would just have to hit him once... and its over like that.

he would just have to genjustsu him and make him walk out of his circle then just cut him up into little pieces simple as that

as for the order your very wrong since it was madara who was giving pain orders zet is just a lookout or w/e so i would think konan would be stronger and itachi is def 4th or 5th strongest then kisame and the rest i could careless

[kjekkN]

that list was horrible, but anyways.. Sasuke wouldnt get ems from killing itachi, and I wonder what the real spesifics from getting ms is, I mean, kakashi got it..

I hope he doesnt have MS tho, I think it's played out. We've already seen it a few times now.

[Skywalker17]

Originally Posted by AshBlade

But what could Itachi do against Hidan?? He could genjutsu rape him all day and he wouldnt die. Hidan would just have to hit him once... and its over like that.

thats it if he can hit him... plus the itachi that will get hit is a genjutsu... even if hidan is immortal itachi can make him crazy with his crazy genjutsu while he murder kakuzu with tsukuyomi...and dont ever think kakuzu can break the tsukuyomi.... kakuzu and hidan fighting itachi is a mismatch... itachi might not even move in this battle he'll just sit like a king...

[Ramstein]

U dont need blood from u r brother..it was clearily stated that madara took his brothers eyes.

[star105]

Originally Posted by konohaavid

No, the requirements were clearly stated. Kill your best friend for Mangekyou, and steal your brothers eyes for eternal Mangekyou.

true........but......then how on earth did Kakashi get the Mangekyo Sharingan?

and also when Tobi/madara disappeared didn't it seem like he went into another dimension like with Kakashis MS ability?

[Rurouni272000]

That list shouldn't even be in this thread.

Hell, that list shouldn't even be in existence, it's so wrong.

And I guess I can se Kishi using Itachi's blood as an MS catalyst, but it wouldn't make much sense. Like someone said before, if you just need the blood then there'd be no reason to go eyeplucking. But I suppose if Madara was the only person to ever do it in the history of the Uchiha clan then maybe he didn't know that blood was the actual catalyst.

But I'm still sticking with the belief that that was just Itachi's blood mixing with tears and coming down his face and he activated only one sharingan to eithe conserve chakra or because he doesn't have enough for both.

[votehill4pres]

lol to this list but i think its debatable to question who is stronger between tobi and pain, i for one i am not sure, pain still thinks himself a god, i mean what would that make tobi, i actually think these two are more or less the same, its just one is meant for naruto to defeat, the other for sasuke, who knows it might be a 2v2 fight

[YondaimeSamaKun]

How many people think, now that sasuke is with madara, Itachi is dead and konoha is trying find sasuke.....team Hebi has pretty much become pointless..... so wouldnt it be great if Kisame killed all of them?.........Or perhaps Kisame will take over team hebi, rename it team shark and make their goal to find and take out sasuke (ala kabutOro) for killing Itachi and abandoning the other 3........

[SHADENINJA]

I was wondering abotu Hebi too

Suigtsu was fighting Kisame, but after that fire started spreading, and Zetsu and Madara began moving, it's likely that their fight ended.

Karin and Juugo were probably cocnerned with finding Sasuke, which they clearly couldn't do

My guess is Juggo and Karin, being good trackers, will find out where Sasuke was taken and attempt a rescue, and then Suigetsu and Kisame's fight will finish

[Seimron]

@YondaimeSamaKun Like I discussed in another topic Kisame is at an extreme disadvantage fighting Suigetsu alone so his chances of defeating the entire team are even less. It's raining so that means Suigetsu is no longer in need of hydration. Kisame's physical strength and sword are no use for him since any strong attack would go through Suigetsu. We also know Suigetsu can change his body shape whenever he wants so he can be a giant if he had enough water...which he does. Along with the fact that none of Kisame's jutsu can hurt Suigetsu, and Kisame can't hide in the water it's going to be a hard fight for Kisame. We also don't know exactly what Juugo can do but I doubt Kisame has it in him to defeat team Hebi.

[OpTiMuSGOTFRAG]

Originally Posted by Sdsky

if u read wat i post...ull see wat i say about it...but to put it simple...i think is some kind of "natural reaction"to the ems or first ms....
that also explain sasuke one eyed sharingan

Well we've seen what the Eternal Mangekyou is supposed to look like awhile back unless it is somehow now different.

In regards to Pain vs Madara. I'm going to go ahead and assume that between the 2 Pain is currently more powerful. We know the Rinnegan is more legendary and powerful than either the Byakugan or Sharingan. We have a few hints as to why, but I'm sure more secrets are yet to be revealed about it.

Sure Madara appears to have that incredible Space-Time Ninjutsu, but if you could win any fight you take part in with a Space-Time Ninjutsu either the 4th would still be alive or Madara wouldn't have lost to the First.

Wait a minute... I don't think there was ever any confirmation that the First Hokage actually beat Madara was there?

Is it possible that the First was just left in a bad way and Madara was already gone from the scene by the time the fight had ended? What if their fight ended exactly like Naruto and Sasuke's ended? Naruto (first) on ground Sasuke (Madara) nowhere to be seen.

Only one thing seems certain, the third apparently surpassed the previous 2 hokage and was referred to as the god of all shinobi. The first either defeated or fought on even footing with Madara leaving Madara, I'm assuming, the worst off of the 2.

I don't see Madara being more powerful than Pain right now. He could BECOME more powerful or on even footing when he achieves his objective, but I don't think he is right now. I just believe they are both kage level shinobi whose goals seem to be more similar than they are opposed for now. Pain defeated Jiraiya without performing a single Ninjutsu and was canceling out or countering pretty much every high level technique that Jiraiya used. All of this, I suspect, without really revealing the true successor to the Rinnegan bloodline limit, Nagato who I think would be a far more difficult fight for Jiraiya than the six enemies he fought.

Nagato was considered a child of destiny for a reason. One that would either bring destruction to the world of Shinobi or one that would usher in a great revolution. In Jiraiya's conversations with Tsunade about Minato's talent there were cuts to Pain hinting that someone with minato's potential has surfaced.

The man even killed Hanzou, a man who even Jiraiya in his current legendary status, did not believe a single person could defeat. Meaning Jiraiya doesn't just believe all 3 Sannin got their behinds handed to them simply because they were younger and less experienced. He respects Hanzou's power.

[SHADENINJA]

All Kisame has to do is keep slashing through Suigetsu, and eventually the boy will lose all hsi chakra and die

[Sdsky]

Originally Posted by OpTiMuSGOTFRAG

Well we've seen what the Eternal Mangekyou is supposed to look like awhile back unless it is somehow now different.

well,he may have it but have no idea about it yet...
(THEY SAY MADARA HAVE IT...BUT WE SEE JUST THE 3 TOMES)
and i really think sasuke eyes look different now...


i said that...."if itachi would have EMS by getting sasuke's eyes" the same must work if sasuke get itachi's eyes....then u think "ok but he need to take the eyes"...and y say "u really think u need to leteraly put ur brother's eyes into yours?"

so i think itachi was good,and this was his "last gift"





@Sdsky: What makes you think that would give him EMS, it would only give him Mangekyou Sharingan.(said alread)



and about the eyes thing...
well,wat if getting the MS is not about killing the person,but the feling of killing someone u have the strongest bonds with?? (best friend) ...but in sasuke situation..it was itachi
naruto was his friend,but not even near the same as itachi in "bond power"haha

then...u think u can LITERALY put ur brother's eyes into yours? i dont think so...can be..but would be...strange...