Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. - Page 19

Victory21 · 06-04-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Seimron

@YondaimeSamaKun Like I discussed in another topic Kisame is at an extreme disadvantage fighting Suigetsu alone so his chances of defeating the entire team are even less. It's raining so that means Suigetsu is no longer in need of hydration. Kisame's physical strength and sword are no use for him since any strong attack would go through Suigetsu. We also know Suigetsu can change his body shape whenever he wants so he can be a giant if he had enough water...which he does. Along with the fact that none of Kisame's jutsu can hurt Suigetsu, and Kisame can't hide in the water it's going to be a hard fight for Kisame. We also don't know exactly what Juugo can do but I doubt Kisame has it in him to defeat team Hebi.

from the impression i'm getting, i'm starting to wonder why the hell was kisame recruited into akatsuki. if he can't even deal with suigetsu

. your giving suigetsu way too much props since we have yet to see anything from him. look at how troublesome a 30% kisame was for gai.

SHADENINJA · 06-04-2008, 07:26 PM

I think that All Mangekyou look different

I don't think an EMS is supposed to look a certain way

Victory21 · 06-04-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadeNinja

I think that All Mangekyou look different

I don't think an EMS is supposed to look a certain way

i agree, i think the MS is just a reflection of the person using it. or another argument could be that with each one there are different attacks. i.e kakashi, i think we will have to wait and see what sasuke's MS would look like if he gains it. as for the EMS, it just a mixture of two MS from what we've seen so far.

SHADENINJA · 06-04-2008, 07:33 PM

Yeah Itachi's explanation of Madara's past basicly showed that there is at least a few appearances that a Mangekyou can take

Sdsky · 06-04-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadeNinja

Yeah Itachi's explanation of Madara's past basicly showed that there is at least a few appearances that a Mangekyou can take

well,if it is about EMS /Ms stuff.....
madara have it,but we've only seen tobi use 3 tomes

SHADENINJA · 06-04-2008, 07:45 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Tobi's Mangekyou looked just like kakashi's.....

konohaavid · 06-04-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchihaeyez

Yes but think about it?

Why your best friend?

Because you must sacrifice a very special bond.

Sasuke holds his fraternal bonds of hatred with Itachi to be sacred.

the reason I differentiate them is because killing your brother would be losing the chance at getting Mangekyou Eternal. From what we've read it's friend, and then brother.

Seimron · 06-04-2008, 08:24 PM

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from the impression i'm getting, i'm starting to wonder why the hell was kisame recruited into akatsuki. if he can't even deal with suigetsu

. your giving suigetsu way too much props since we have yet to see anything from him. look at how troublesome a 30% kisame was for gai.

Your taking Suigetsu lightly though IMO Suigetsu is at least Jounin level I mean Zabuza was jonin level and does anybody here honestly think Suigetsu can't defeat Zabuza? Suigetsu is very strong i mean he has threatened Sasuke many times and due to the fact that he turns into water when struck he is unharmed by most attacks. Kisame in his own right is very very powerful he is a power house with really high chakra and super strength along with his chakra-stealing sword and his water jutsus he is a very formidable foe but it's just that Suigetsu is sort of like his anti, sort of like Temari was Tayuya's anti, we all know Tayuya is powerful but Temari was her anti and Tayuya got pwnt and that is what I think is going to happen to Kisame but on a shorter scale as I still believe Kisame can put up a decent fight if he finds a weakness to Suigetsu.

edit: @Konohaavid just because Sasuke killed Itachi doesn't mean he can't take his eyes and that's why I think Madara took Itachi's body. Itachi was planning to kill Sasuke and then take his eyes so killing your sibling wouldn't mean that you couldn't attain the EMS.

gmulis · 06-04-2008, 08:30 PM

who would have guesed Zetsu my man has a camcorder...naruto manga on a new level

Azn · 06-04-2008, 08:38 PM

Zetsu is the Akatsuki spy. Not that surprising.

~~Lokiee~~ · 06-04-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gmulis

who would have guesed Zetsu my man has a camcorder...naruto manga on a new level

Or kishi stole the idea From Kubo(sp?)

Ulquiora much?

it also seems like Tobi and Zetsu talked before Tobi intercepted Konoha

Victory21 · 06-04-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seimron

Your taking Suigetsu lightly though IMO Suigetsu is at least Jounin level I mean Zabuza was jonin level and does anybody here honestly think Suigetsu can't defeat Zabuza? Suigetsu is very strong i mean he has threatened Sasuke many times and due to the fact that he turns into water when struck he is unharmed by most attacks. Kisame in his own right is very very powerful he is a power house with really high chakra and super strength along with his chakra-stealing sword and his water jutsus he is a very formidable foe but it's just that Suigetsu is sort of like his anti, sort of like Temari was Tayuya's anti, we all know Tayuya is powerful but Temari was her anti and Tayuya got pwnt and that is what I think is going to happen to Kisame but on a shorter scale as I still believe Kisame can put up a decent fight if he finds a weakness to Suigetsu.

edit: @Konohaavid just because Sasuke killed Itachi doesn't mean he can't take his eyes and that's why I think Madara took Itachi's body. Itachi was planning to kill Sasuke and then take his eyes so killing your sibling wouldn't mean that you couldn't attain the EMS.

but your still making assumptions, without seeing what suigetsu or kisame is truly capable of.

OpTiMuSGOTFRAG · 06-04-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seimron

Your taking Suigetsu lightly though IMO Suigetsu is at least Jounin level I mean Zabuza was jonin level and does anybody here honestly think Suigetsu can't defeat Zabuza? Suigetsu is very strong i mean he has threatened Sasuke many times and due to the fact that he turns into water when struck he is unharmed by most attacks. Kisame in his own right is very very powerful he is a power house with really high chakra and super strength along with his chakra-stealing sword and his water jutsus he is a very formidable foe but it's just that Suigetsu is sort of like his anti, sort of like Temari was Tayuya's anti, we all know Tayuya is powerful but Temari was her anti and Tayuya got pwnt and that is what I think is going to happen to Kisame but on a shorter scale as I still believe Kisame can put up a decent fight if he finds a weakness to Suigetsu.

edit: @Konohaavid just because Sasuke killed Itachi doesn't mean he can't take his eyes and that's why I think Madara took Itachi's body. Itachi was planning to kill Sasuke and then take his eyes so killing your sibling wouldn't mean that you couldn't attain the EMS.

lol why in god's name are people assuming Kisame's jutsu couldn't cause harm to Suigetsu?

We are getting mighty ahead of ourselves here. We might as well say that no shinobi from Suigetsu's ninja village can defeat him using techniques that Shinobi of that village would probably use. Just because he has a cool water ability doesn't mean water techniques of a higher level than he is equipped to properly deal with or sustain can't harm him.

Suigetsu uses chakra just like everybody else. He wont be able to save himself by changing into water every single time he gets hit.

~~Lokiee~~ · 06-04-2008, 09:52 PM

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lol why in god's name are people assuming Kisame's jutsu couldn't cause harm to Suigetsu?

We are getting mighty ahead of ourselves here.

Its already clear that Kisame will Wipe the floor with Suigetsu's arse. Kishi said Kisame will continue to play a role in the story.

Kisame Sempai is a beast. His beef is with Gai not noob Suigetsu

gmulis · 06-04-2008, 10:05 PM

sp did itachi become zetsu's meal, since tobi asked him to dispose the body

Azn · 06-04-2008, 10:06 PM

Tobi took the body

jnwaller · 06-04-2008, 10:12 PM

I hate set up chapters and thats exactly what this was o well already having a very hard time waiting for 397.

Nordman · 06-04-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lokiee

Its already clear that Kisame will Wipe the floor with Suigetsu's arse. Kishi said Kisame will continue to play a role in the story.

Kisame Sempai is a beast. His beef is with Gai not noob Suigetsu

Well the interview is rumored to be fake so dont be so sure.

happybuddha · 06-04-2008, 11:11 PM

Hey what might happen to Hebi... I mean Tobi just snatched Sasuke up...

It would be intresting if Kisame just killed the crew.. but that probably wont happen.. Didn't Kishi say his editor told him to expand his story.

Hm.

usn014 · 07-04-2008, 01:09 AM

hopefully we get like huge breakthrough information...and not something like tobi reveal he's obito cause everyone knows that

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gmulis Medical-nin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 810 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. who would have guesed Zetsu my man has a camcorder...naruto manga on a new level

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Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,375 My Mood: Rep Power: 25	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. Zetsu is the Akatsuki spy. Not that surprising. __________________ :3

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Azn Elite Jounin Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,375 My Mood: Rep Power: 25	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. Tobi took the body __________________ :3

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jnwaller Genin Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. I hate set up chapters and thats exactly what this was o well already having a very hard time waiting for 397.

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happybuddha Chuunin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dust City. (three miles left of the Sand Village) Posts: 279 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: Naruto Manga chapter 396 discussion. Hey what might happen to Hebi... I mean Tobi just snatched Sasuke up... It would be intresting if Kisame just killed the crew.. but that probably wont happen.. Didn't Kishi say his editor told him to expand his story. Hm. __________________ Hey, have you heard of New York times? Yeah, I wrote it.

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