Naruto Manga chapter 397 discussion.

[SHADENINJA]

^ I'm almost positive it's the left eye

Can someone check?

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i dont belive that itachi is a bad guy nor that he destroyed their clan, he wanted to surpass madara this whole time thats the reason he let sasuke live even tho he said it was to take his eyes, he used his genjutsu on sasuke before he could use the sharingan and wanted him to get strong by hating itachi so when the time came he could give sasuke his powers and have him destroy madara so im guessing that means itachi wants to stop madara from destroying the leaf village\the world with pein. but i could be wrong

[waqo]

Originally Posted by ShadeNinja

^ I'm almost positive it's the left eye

Can someone check?

Its the right eye

Naruto 389 - Read Naruto chapter 389 online at One Manga

Edit: and the right eye in action Naruto 389 page 15 | One Manga

[SilentSneeze]

So Itachi transferred all his eye techniques into just one of Sasuke's eyes then? otherwise why would amaterasu come from Sasuke's left and Itachi's right?

See how much pain Sasuke was in when his eye bled, and how he didn't seem in pain at all when it supposedly bled when Itachi poked him? seemed like a pretty new sensation to him imo but obviously the majority feel it was his own blood at that time, ah well we'll have to agree to disagree but I'm holding firm on my stance in this one.

So Madara jumped in to the dark to cut of Sasuke's line of vision and stop amaterasu but he also extinguished the flames and recovered so quickly, that guy's got some tricks up his sleeve alright.

Also laughed at Madara calling himself a weirdo.

[sd28]

Originally Posted by Cane_The9lives

To all the people who continue to bitch about sasuke, please, please get it over with and just do this

What is the damn problem?
So he has MS? Whats the big deal? Honestly if you cant stand the story over a simple plot development then how the hell can you call yourself fans? If you turncoat the second somthing happens that you dont like.

I think this chpater was kishi giving us a teaser, somthing to ponder before the next chapter in two weeks.
I have to say, im interested to see how he is going to spin this.
Becuase until then, itachi is a coldhearted murderer until explained otherwhise.

I belive the problem is getting it so soon after losing curse seal

[marius-sama]

Originally Posted by waqo

Its the right eye

Naruto 389 - Read Naruto chapter 389 online at One Manga

Edit: and the right eye in action Naruto 389 page 15 | One Manga

Well he did transfeer it so i guess looking at sasuke with right then it was transfeered to sasukes left eye, then again it probably needed the blood for it to work just like with summons and such.

I think there is a posibility sasuke got tsukomi in his right, i wont say he dont until i see proff he dont, blood may have been the requirment but the eye's may have only transfeered its power to the eye it meet.

As for Madara and itachi im wondering what is behind the protecting stuff, at first i too thought mayby uchias all where bad and thats why itachi tried kill em, but if the where helping madara it dont add up with madara helping him.
So i thought about mayby madara showed itachi how powerfull he was and somehow in disbelif of his power he was told that if he went to tell anyone or refused to be madaras student he would wipe all of konoha out.
Being made to chose between 2 evils he chose the lesser and helped madara wipe uchia's out with the condition of sasuke being left alive, the showing of what he did to sasuke could have been a last moment resort in hope that sasuyke would be motivated to grow stronger if pushed, at least he would survive and be safe in konoha.

itachi did get oro to leave akatski when he joined it, that surely made it weaker then it had been if he stayed, also he could have had more motives to it, mayby he knew if oro was denyied itachi's eye's he would seek sasuke out and eventually make sasuke stronger.
No matter what his motives was we need some deep explaining before he can be called good in any way.

Man if this all goes back to some scene with yondi handing itachi jirayas book somewhere around the kyubi attack, telling him not to worry and that he will protect the village and that itachi should grow strong so he too one day can do the same, although im sure thats way to fanfic to ever hope for.

As far as sasuke getting ms making him god compared to naruto i think thats taking it too far.

MS is awsome yes but so is naruto, people tend to forget how hard some of narutos jutsus r to make when they r learned.
Taju KB was jounin skill and naruto with his own and kyubi chakra took it beyond what anyone has done before he pushed the limit on how many he could make.
Tree walking water walking was all about mastering ur chakra controll and naruto got it down to the point that jiraya decided to move him onto rasengan, witch i seem to remember being called the ultimate form manipulation, just maintaining took evrything he had.
Then he made him make it into odama to surpas the original one to an even greater extreeme.
He learned wind and mastered it to the imposible, even making something neither yondi or kakashi can with FRS.

My point here is all narutos jutsu's are taken to the extreme, strong isnt good enough only strongest and hardest to make at ur current level, this makes me belive that if naruto ever decided to learn not so strong jutsus with the same element or or chakra manipulation he would master the, all very fast, then add his Taju KB training to that and he would easy learn just about most forms of jutsu's if he wanted, he just prefeers using the overpowered ones for 1 hit ko's.

I belive naruto is bound to be shown as way stronger, in fact i belive the tampering jiraya did has got naruto pushed even further then was meant for his current level.
I think yondi made the seal weaken natrually so naruto would constantly be pushed to grow, his chakra would allways be fighting kyubi and increasing steadly, think of it like Goku or Vegeta in Gravity training, only that jirayas tampering increased narutos gravity to beyond what he can take right now, his body still hold kyubi inside but his emergency switches for releaising the chakra like anger or danger now pushes him beyond what he can take.
But i think naruto is adapting and taking back controll soon, the key may even be foir resetting the controll so naruto can use his potential to max.

Now imagine if naruto ever got the idea to test kyubi chakra element and learn to better master drawing it out and maintaining controll, i personally belive it is gona be fire element chakra since kyubi is the god of fire, then imagine if he ever makes a counterpart of FRS in fire element and uses it with FRS, it would easy rival amaratsu in power if not far surpass it and turn evrything around into a mess, heck add some frog oil and it be a god jutsu.
Reason i asume Kyubi is fire chakra is coz of it's propertys and that in legend kyubi breathed fire balls just like 4 tails, naruto complained about how it burns when kyubi chakra was removed from him in 4 tail form, and kyubi is known as the demon god of fire, i think there are a lot of clues that has allready told us what element it is.

A lot r saying sasuke is overpowered but so is naruto and he only need a little training to grow a lot, not to mention we havent seen any summons yet but i bet he has something else we still havent seen.

[San Goku]

Thanks for the reminder w/ the pic Cane. Kishimoto is really something else eh, slipping something like that right under our noses, where we have we go back 2 chapters and research, lol.

[AshBlade]

I wonder if all MS users really have 3 techniques, then Madara might have his STJ, a genjutsu to control Bijuu, and what else... Just a thought

[l0rdza0n]

Originally Posted by AshBlade

I wonder if all MS users really have 3 techniques, then Madara might have his STJ, a genjutsu to control Bijuu, and what else... Just a thought

someone mentioned that maybe each MS manifests itself differently on the person that has sharingan, which explains Kakashi's dimensional warping MS
and Itachi having 3 unbeatable MS techniques and maybe even MAdara/Tobi have different eye techniques because it seems

Tobi does not have Amterasu.. simply by the way he speaks of it.. "Itachi's jutsu" almost as if it was Itachi's alone.. (until Sasuke have it now)

but i kinda like that... each Uchiha manifests the MS differently

[Sad_panda]

So can Sasuke use MS at anytime
or he can only u amterasu when madara is close towards him

[Apackof12ninjas]

Im still not convinced Sasukes MS isnt temporary.

[San Goku]

So you think its permanent?

[SilentSneeze]

Originally Posted by San Goku

So you think its permanent?

I think he's leaning towards it being temporary, I hope he's right otherwise we might never see Madara reveal himself to Sasuke because as soon as he removes his mask he's gonna get a face full of amaterasu and I think that's something he'd like to avoid.

Wonder if Itachi's eyes going white had anything to do with this transfer too.

[Dussan]

I'm not buying the whole.

"I will make you stronger by having you kill me" argument.

makes no sense. Kishi tends to make the manga a bit more practical then most so double, quadruple teams are common. or in Naruto's case, tag teams. It's one of the reasons the fights aren't complete bullshit.

It makes more sense for Itachi to convert Sasuke then for him to offer himself up as a sacrificial lamb.

OOOHHHH

Just thught of something. What if Itachi tried to get Sasuke to get MS by killing Naruto. It stops Akatsuki, save konoha and destroys Kyuubi with one sacrifice.

That dosn't work, he sees Naruto, an later on Naruto shows that bond with Sasuke. So Itachi could be content with that?

[Blackghost164]

Originally Posted by Cane_The9lives

Becuase until then, itachi is a coldhearted murderer until explained otherwhise.

coldblooded hmm?
Naruto 397 page 17 | One Manga

that doesnt sound like a cold blooded person to me

[Sdsky]

I Think Madara Is Forcing Sasuke's Feeling So He Can Really Have His Ms...and Fusin With Itachi's Ms(that Seems Like He Have Alread) Gain Ems....y Madara Wants That?dont Know,hope Is Not Take His Eyes...but He Is Indeed Interested On Sasuke's Potential

[l0rdza0n]

Kish is seriously demented...

but I love the madness in his head

best part of the chapter?

"You need to know about him.. this man who risked everything to protect
the shinobi world.. the leaf village.. and most of all,
his little brother. You need to know about Itachi's life!"

bottom of the chapter:
"Just when Sasuke had learned everything.. Madara's words thrust him back into confusion. Is he really implying that Itachi wanted to protect Sasuke?!"
immediately followed by
"There will be no naruto next week!"

[Seimron]

^I didn't notice that...thanks... Why does he even take breaks anyway I mean how hard can drawing 17 pages a week be? I mean his aides do most of the work anyway. Dammit I wonder if everytime Itachi did that poke thing he was tranfering stuff to Sasuke. That would make sense like everytime Sasuke needs help with something he just pokes him and says another time. Itachi is awesome

[Arukas]

Well i'll be damned. Itachi wasen't a heartless bastard afterall.. and that reminiscing poke on the head transfered his MS techniques to Sasuke ?... I can't deny it - That is pretty badass. Now I am curious as to why Madara speaks as though they were close partners at one point (during the uchiha massacre), then goes to say Itachi wanted him dead. Now thinking back to the fight, Itachi DID say he wanted to kill Madara, though that was only because he felt he was inferior to him, and wanted to surpass him.. was everything that Itachi fed to Sasuke about Madara and taking his eyes for himself a lie then ? This chapter just left an ass load more unanswered questions, though I deffiently like where this is going. Kishi is holding up the win quite nicely. =)

[Blackghost164]

Originally Posted by Àrükâ§

Well i'll be damned. Itachi wasen't a heartless bastard afterall.. and that reminiscing poke on the head transfered his MS techniques to Sasuke ?... I can't deny it - That is pretty badass. Now I am curious as to why Madara speaks as though they were close partners at one point (during the uchiha massacre), then goes to say Itachi wanted him dead. Now thinking back to the fight, Itachi DID say he wanted to kill Madara, though that was only because he felt he was inferior to him, and wanted to surpass him.. was everything that Itachi fed to Sasuke about Madara and taking his eyes for himself a lie then ? This chapter just left an ass load more unanswered questions, though I deffiently like where this is going. Kishi is holding up the win quite nicely. =)

i think alot of the confusion on itachi comes from him saying one thing and his actions suggesting another