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Old 13-04-2008, 09:29 AM   #361
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i knew this was coming as itachi even after such a fearsome reputation was shown calm,always tried to avoid fights and refrained from killing people unnecessarily...then we just thought i was a part of his attitude but now we kinda know the reason for his peculiar behavior.....Kishi was hinting it from the start.
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Old 13-04-2008, 10:50 AM   #362
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Just as i though,what Tobi just said was almost the same point ((to protect Sasuke))


It's true Itachi had to fight Sasuke but in the mean time he only had mercy on his brother,we didn't saw him killing him or so every time sasuke encounter him he just hurt him badly max but don't kill him same happen to Kakashi when he was lost in mangekyo Sharingan

But the way he killed his own clan and having Tobi saying it was just to protect him it is a bit confusing
all i can say that it may be that Itachi slaughter his clan just to let Sasuke be as he is now otherwise he wouldn't have got stronger and even won't have any goal to achieve

Now that Sasuke got MS he will have to suffer the same problem as itachi had every time he used MS ((Blindness)),but got also the most powerful attack of the Sharingan that was transfer to him by the poke he always do every time Sasuke ask him for his training when he was young

((((just a though that at the valley of the death*don't remember which chap* we noticed Tobi standing on one of the statues and a crow bird passed by ((it could be itachi encounter Tobi and got injured)) in this moment we even didn't see what happen after they moved us to another scene that may explain why Zetzu said that Itachi may got hurt badly even before the battle vs Sasuke start))))


Now that Tobi said it was to protect Sasuke this will make things very complicated,since Sasuke goal was to avenge his parents death
But if it come to me what Itachi did isn't mean meaningless he just give his secrets to his brother as an act of forgiveness on slaying his clan maybe
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There are some question i liked to asked:
Why Tobi want to tell him all what he know about him?
Why did he admit that he could be killed by him if he claim to be the most powerful Uchiha?
What does he fear from Itachi ?

What are the secrets he kept from him and the one he knows about?
Does this mean that Itachi purposal was to give Sasuke his MS as a present for defeating him just to protect him after seeing that he became more powerful that he imagine?
Many question can be asked where their answered lies in the next chapters~~
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Old 13-04-2008, 11:24 AM   #363
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I hope this manga doesnt turn out to be LOST, season 1-200! I sigh'ed when I read that sasuke got all of itachi's eye techs, but I guess that's the way it goes for the main man....

Anyways, I hope kishi doesnt stray from the story and keep gettin sidetracked
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Wait.... What about that shit Itachi said before he died? After this chapter we may get a better clue to what he said.
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maybe madara is using the guy itachi killed to gain ms for his body possible :o
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Personally I hate the Idea of Emoske Having MS But I have Faith that they are going to end up beating the living Day lites out of him Because he is getting to be a real pain in the ass !!!
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maybe madara is using the guy itachi killed to gain ms for his body possible :o
The guy itachi killed his name was uchiha shishu somethin failed to attain MS according to Itachi i dont no how much of this is true as it seems itachi was lying since the begning
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Dude, Kirin is a bullshit jutsu. Get that shit through your brain.
Blablabla..Kirin is a good and useful jutsu, and by the way: Relax.

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It's bullshit cause you have to set it up and during that time ndyone that could move at any kind of speed would be able to step in and stop him.
Do you think Sasuke is silly? He's a genius, damnit.
He knows when to use Kirin - when the Enemy has taken damage and can't dodge Kirin.

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Now if Kirin had the destructive blast radius as C2 or Chakra Compression Blast then it would be something to fear. But it's a pinpoint strike against a single target that you have to setup storm clouds for and shit. It's bullshit and I'm frankly surprised that Itachi got nailed with it.
Itachi was at his limits, he couldn't move. That's why he got nailed with...


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Again, sasuke is weaker then Itachi. If Itachi wasnt already half dead and serious he would have won. You cant dispute that.
I know. Itachi was better and stronger than Sasuke. But now.(of course if it's a Permanent MS) Sasuke is stronger. He has Tsukoyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Kirin, Chidori and the Speed + Brain. He's that damn good.

Oh and by the way. I'm not a Sasuke Fanboy.
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Dude, Kirin is a bullshit jutsu. Get that shit through your brain.

It's bullshit cause you have to set it up and during that time ndyone that could move at any kind of speed would be able to step in and stop him.

Yeah, lets see you dodge lightning...
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The guy itachi killed his name was uchiha shishu somethin failed to attain MS according to Itachi i dont no how much of this is true as it seems itachi was lying since the begning
Yeah I too wonder what itachi said to sasuke and if we will find out sometime soon
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Default Re: Naruto Manga chapter 397 discussion.

I think we're going to have a to wait a little before all this clears up... there's no guarantee we will get the full picture within one chapter, I am really intrigued to see how kishi pulls it, but for now my money is still on

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One thing I found out. The way Itachi transferred his doujutsu to Sasuke, it must have been a technique he has practised all his life.

Source: Manga chapter 385 /08

Also there are about 3 or 4 clues in chapter 392 where Itachi has succeeded his technique.
Anyways a lot of answers to come. My compliments to Kishi & co for always implementing secrets, that get revealed later on.
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Sorry could you be a bit more clear about the clues in chapter 392, as i have read it and can't find any on the technique he used to transfer his MS (may be temporary or just responds to Madara's sharingan) to sasuke like you have stated, it's basically him fighting Orochimaru and Zetsu talking.
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no matter how much kishi lvoes sasuke...he didnt give him perma MS from just that....i just wont believe that till its confirmed...it all seemst o be a one time thing to me..he had no control, it stopped itself, and it had an activator of seeing madara's sharingan instead of his own ill..one time last ditch effort to kill madara by itachi,

and about transfering techniques...iono people dont complain about pain having a technique that he can give to other people that can give a random person the fighting ability of someone else...this is a microcosm of that jutsu by itachi giving sasuke IMO...one technique for one time
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no matter how much kishi lvoes sasuke...he didnt give him perma MS from just that....i just wont believe that till its confirmed...it all seemst o be a one time thing to me..he had no control, it stopped itself, and it had an activator of seeing madara's sharingan instead of his own ill..one time last ditch effort to kill madara by itachi,

and about transfering techniques...iono people dont complain about pain having a technique that he can give to other people that can give a random person the fighting ability of someone else...this is a microcosm of that jutsu by itachi giving sasuke IMO...one technique for one time

madara said itachi gave all his powers to sasuke
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I wonder how Itachi did it though all he did was tap his forehead like he use to.
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ok i jus wanna say something this is just a speculation madura+obitto=tobi madura possesed obbitos reconstructed body giving him only half of the chakra of obbitto because only half of boy left and new eyes without ems or ms so he obtained ms by killing all of uchia and letting itachi kill his best friend when he got ms kakshi did to and both itachi and tobi ems so they leave sasuke to kll his best friend itachi and tobi are fighting over sasuke so when itachi dies he gives sasuke ms to protect himself from tobi after his eyes (tobi would make sasuke kill naruto) and in the end tobi taking sasukes ms eyes so he could have ems again
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So this means Itachi was throwing the fight. Good.
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I wonder how Itachi did it though all he did was tap his forehead like he use to.
Blood........Itachi used his blood to transfer it, as you can see with the blood left on Sasuke's head in the previous chapter.
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to go along with the blood thing, dont shinobi use blood for summoning jutsu? So itachi probably used his blood as a summoning jutsu for his ms tech's. Only whne madaras sharingan is visible though.
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