Naruto Manga chapter 398 discussion.

[Lord_Sasori]

You know Ive been thinking even with the truth about itachi coming out, I cannot see Sasuke somehow hating the entire leaf country. I mean holding 4 people responsible for his clan's massacre is one thing, hating the entire country as a whole and holding them all responsible is jumping the gun. Sasuke doesn't seem to be someone who goes off emotion, he does think before he acts. (usually)

[MasterTragedy]

Considering all the backstabing and bitchmade stuff he did just to get revenge of One person he hated, going after 2-3 people isnt gonna be any different. I can see Sasuke being a bitch and going againest everyone for his own selfish reasons. I mean honestly. Youve all read the story so I dont need to go into detail.

[Victory21]

Originally Posted by MasterTragedy

Considering all the backstabing and bitchmade stuff he did just to get revenge of One person he hated, going after 2-3 people isnt gonna be any different. I can see Sasuke being a bitch and going againest everyone for his own selfish reasons. I mean honestly. Youve all read the story so I dont need to go into detail.

I agree, i have no doubt he will go after konoha. He will end up going against konoha one way or another eventually.

[Dussan]

Originally Posted by l0rdza0n

I think all Akatsuki are capable of it

the precedence certainly has been already set..

singlehandedly taking down entire nations i mean ie: Sasori.. hell, Deidei could destroy an entire nation if he wanted..

like i said, all of akatsuki are extreme powerhouses

Anyone that gets owned by a chuunin is not capable of taking down Konoha singlehandedly. It defies any form of logic.

Summoning Pein could fuckin ruin Konoha though. I mean, the dog summon where it kept splitting off like some bizarre hentai missile pod and wrecking shit was mind blowing.

[scandalous]

Originally Posted by Yoshitsune

i don't think generally he was jiraiya's spy because even when they met each other jiraiya was so serious about it and fight them in the toad frog trying to catch them untill Itachi escaped with using Amaterasu


this is to far

Jiraiya info come from the way he spy did you noticed how he enter pain base by being in a little frog mouth where no one can notice him untill he get out ,he still got many ways to spy

and i don't think the akatsuki will be that stupid or weak to let someone be their a spy againts them in the organisation even kabuto was watched

There is no way to know for sure if itachi was jiraiya's spy until kishi gives us some information. There could have been a number of reasons why the itachi and kisame vs jiraiya fight didn't go down. All tough some things said then don't really make sens to me now. At first when kisame and itachi were watching naruto and jiraiya from the mountain, it was clearly stated by themselves that they could not handle jiraiya on there own. Yet when escaping his frog stomach, kisame said something like this, "Why did we run, you could've", to itachi. Which I take as kisame stating that itachi could have taken jiraiya head on. Also what I don't get. Itachi and kisame stated that, IF were were to comeback WITH reinforcements we could not beat jiraiya which I find kind of strange. If they got pain they could've destroyed jiraiya then and there. So I really find that weird.

Btw what is that anime show of the girl fighting in your signature Yoshitsune, it looks kinda cool.

[scandalous]

Originally Posted by Dussan

Anyone that gets owned by a chuunin is not capable of taking down Konoha singlehandedly. It defies any form of logic.

Summoning Pein could fuckin ruin Konoha though. I mean, the dog summon where it kept splitting off like some bizarre hentai missile pod and wrecking shit was mind blowing.

A rank of a person doesn't really have to be the classification of ones ability or power. Sasuke is a genin yet look at him, same goes for naruto. Some even say kakashi might be hokage material. Remember the sasori fight was a 2 on 1. miss granny was clearly no chuunin.

[Ycagel]

Originally Posted by scandalous

There is no way to know for sure if itachi was jiraiya's spy until kishi gives us some information. There could have been a number of reasons why the itachi vs kisame fight didn't go down. All tough some things said then don't really make sens to me now. At first when kisame and itachi were watching naruto and jiraiya from the mountain, it was clearly stated by themselves that they could not handle jiraiya on there own. Yet when escaping his frog stomach, kisame said something like this, Why did we run, you could've to itachi. Which I take as he could have taken jiraiya head on. Also what I don't get. Itachi and kisame stated that, IF were were to comeback WITH reinforcements we could not beat jiraiya which I find kind of strange. If they got pain they could've destroyed jiraiya then and there. So I really find that weird.

Btw what is that anime show of the girl fighting in your signature Yoshitsune, it looks kinda cool.

Naruto 144 page 08 | One Manga
That's the page in the manga. As you can see, they never stated that they would lose; Kisame just said there might be a chance. For some moronic reason, the anime just added some filler words that made no sense...

[MasterTragedy]

Scandolous, hes reffering to Hidan lol, which aint really fair cause Hidan againest almost anyone in 1 on 1 (without seeing his technique beforehand) would get WTF owned once they got the slightest scratch or cut. But ya, a whole nation, he'd be overwhelmed and eventually get blown away/apart, his one weakness LOL. (sigh, Hidan some of us respect and miss you)

[scandalous]

Originally Posted by Ycagel

Naruto 144 page 08 | One Manga
That's the page in the manga. As you can see, they never stated that they would lose; Kisame just said there might be a chance. For some moronic reason, the anime just added some filler words that made no sense...

I'm sorry you are right, I based everything of what I've seen in the anime. my mistake.

Originally Posted by MasterTragedy

Scandolous, hes reffering to Hidan lol, which aint really fair cause Hidan againest almost anyone in 1 on 1 (without seeing his technique beforehand) would get WTF owned once they got the slightest scratch or cut. But ya, a whole nation, he'd be overwhelmed and eventually get blown away/apart, his one weakness LOL. (sigh, Hidan some of us respect and miss you)

Oh I didn't know it was about hidan. I was to lazy to read all the pages:p
Yet, what I said still makes a little bit of sense right, excluding the hidan thing:p

PS: does anyone know what show the gif. picture in yoshitsune's signature is.

This is the one.

[SHADENINJA]

Looks like Ikkitousen, but can't be sure. I've only seen one episode and it sucked, but that may not be it

Anyway, the main problem right now is clearly Pain

Yes he's been weakened and injured, but in all honesty it probably won't take him long to recover, and it won't take someone like him long to find Naruto either. Lets be serious, if he wants Naruto, he's gonna get him. Kakashi can't point his mangekyou in six directions at once,

I mean I suppose if Kakashi managed to use Mangekyou to kill the body that resurrects people, he could probably use his eye to counter the one that copies jutsu as well. But fighting 5 bodies at once is too difficult. It could not be a one on one fight. Yamato and the others would have to help. Yamato, with his jutsu could probably seperate the bodies, and cloud the field of vision. The advantage of the Rinnegan would be taken away. Even as singular bodies though, Pain is powerful in each. That summoner alone is probably enough to kill Yamato. The only other bodies to work with are the one that obsorbs jutsus and the taijutsu user and we haven't even seen what the others can do. Maybe Hinata and Kiba and Shino could survive for a little while, but not forever, expecially if Konan decides to help Pain.

The only chance for victory in that situation is to force Naruto to run. While Pain is chasing Naruto, he will be vulnerable to ambush, however his Rinnegan will make it difficult to get the drop on him. Kakashi would have to hit at least one body from far away. Two if his chakra holds up. At that point Pain would break off bodies to fight and go on with his stronger ones. This is the only advantageous situation for Team 7

[Dussan]

Originally Posted by scandalous

A rank of a person doesn't really have to be the classification of ones ability or power. Sasuke is a genin yet look at him, same goes for naruto. Some even say kakashi might be hokage material. Remember the sasori fight was a 2 on 1. miss granny was clearly no chuunin.

Let me rephrase.

Anyone that got dropped by Naruto, Sakura or Sasuke could not take out Konoha singlehandeldy.
Seriously doubt Itachi could do it.

But back on point, i'm feeling that sasuke is going to side with madara. And from that cover it looks like Madara can control the kyuubi is official. Which sort of means that Naruto with Kyuubi in his gut is a huge fucking liability.

Fuck. I mean SHIT. How the fuck can Naruto win against this shit?

Sasuke is bad enough, Madara damn near impossible. Pein.

Dude if Pein shows upt it's done.

I'ts going to be great learning about the origins of Konoha.

[Uchihaeyez]

Haha Kishi

Biggest Foreshadowing Ever

This sort've ties in with my theory that The Uchihas were plotting to take control of Konoha by with or without using Kyuubi.

Itachi's Father says "impress them well," which i percieved as "Oh yeah Itachi just get as close as you can so it's easier to put the knife in their backs."

Especially since he consisdered Itachi to be their connection to the village.

I know this could be percieved in alot of ways but thats what i took from it.

I also believe that Once Sasuke knows of Konohas destruction of the Uchiha clan he's going to join Uchiha Madara in revenge, since he'll no longer attribute the blame of their death to him.

We all know about his pride, and want of revenge to defend it.

He'd have a reason to allign with Madara.

And possibly even attack Konoha w/ him.

I could see a Sasuke Naruto rematch of a Sasuke Kakashi battle occuring in that scenario.

[Blackghost164]

^ so now the question is what was going to happen the day that itachi massacred the village?

[Poncho Sama]

Originally Posted by Uchihaeyez

Haha Kishi

Biggest Foreshadowing Ever

This sort've ties in with my theory that The Uchihas were plotting to take control of Konoha by with or without using Kyuubi.

Itachi's Father says "impress them well," which i percieved as "Oh yeah Itachi just get as close as you can so it's easier to put the knife in their backs."

Especially since he consisdered Itachi to be their connection to the village.

I know this could be percieved in alot of ways but thats what i took from it.

I also believe that Once Sasuke knows of Konohas destruction of the Uchiha clan he's going to join Uchiha Madara in revenge, since he'll no longer attribute the blame of their death to him.

We all know about his pride, and want of revenge to defend it.

He'd have a reason to allign with Madara.

And possibly even attack Konoha w/ him.

I could see a Sasuke Naruto rematch of a Sasuke Kakashi battle occuring in that scenario.

Maybe the meeting was with Madara?

[irtemed88]

Originally Posted by ponchocam

Maybe the meeting was with Madara?

Yeah I think either that or if the other theory about him taking orders from Danzou, the Hokage, and the gang is correct, he was meeting with them.

Or maybe he really wanted a last bowl of Ramen before he became an exile

[Uchihaeyez]

Originally Posted by Blackghost164

^ so now the question is what was going to happen the day that itachi massacred the village?

What do you mean?

[Blackghost164]

Originally Posted by Uchihaeyez

What do you mean?

on the third page it says that they are having a meeting on the same day that itachi carries out the massacre, his father also says that its a very important meeting and that itachi needs to be there so im guessing that the massacre was planned to stop whatever was going to happen at that meeting

[14643855]

irritating chapter more questions than answers

[JiraiyaRIP]

Originally Posted by Why not

If that´s true a rematch between Sasuke and Naruto is going to happen soon. I think that Sasuke will be manipulated by Madara because a guy who can manipulate Uchiha Itachi is able to manipulate Sasuke too.

I think that Sasuke is going to seek revenge on Konoha. So he probably will face Naruto and co. again. They will probably fight and in the end Sasuke will see that Madara was just using him. Then he will join Konoha again in order to fight against Madara and his evil plans.

I know that sounds pretty much like a fan fic but I really hope that Sasuke will join Konoha in the future.

It will take a real strong Naruto to MAKE Sasuke see the light about Konoha. Thats why i dont see them in a rematch untill the final fight. Maybe Sasuke will even pull a "darth Vader" on Madara.

It would make the circle nice and round. Like reliving the past.

[JiraiyaRIP]

Originally Posted by Ranoik

Personally, Sasuke will get the EMS. He already has his brothers now. Its the exact same as Itachi's and from what we have seen each MS is different. Once Sasuke opens his own MS, he'll have his + Itachi's, which will become the EMS. It could give even more incentive for killing Naruto now as well, as I think that Sasuke might figure this out.

He can only get his by killing Naruto. Don't see him dieing