The Official Tobi discussion thread

[Dark Janza]

Well... this was interesting.

By the way, I downloaded from mangahelpers and Tob i says, "And sharingan's true power... the power of I, Uchiha Madara Will -!"

Tobi is Uchiha Madara. I still think that Tobi could be Obito...

Just a couple of quick things that make me think this...

-Tobi is an Uchiha
-the mask covers the left eye
-somebody says the kanji is s reverse for Obito


Even though he calls himself Uchiha Madara, we don't know this is an actual name. For all we know this could be a titel for an Uchiha that has unlocked the true power of the sharingan. That, or it could be a titel for the strongest of all Uchiha.

If it is a name, I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of possession took place here.

[Sdsky]

i really believe that if he was uchicha madara...he woudnt say "uchicha madara's powers"......for real..i think he "stole" or get madara's powers somehow....for me madara was the first or the strongest uchicha....or maybe..he was the first to know about ms.................................he can be ne someone that is going by madara's steps...trying to do somehting madara coudnt....using "madara's powers"

[Maddocks]

get over that obito = tobi argument...its not going to happen....obito is dead...DEAD! leave him alone.

[Dark Janza]

He says "the power of I, Uchiha Madara".


He might be dead, but you never know.

[Sdsky]

Naruto Manga Returns

"the sharingan true power,my power,uchicha madara's power"

this is what he say(in this trans) .....this could easly be..."the true power of the sharingan is mine....now i have uchicha madara's powers"..like "i get his powers...now is my power.........get it?that is why im saying i dont think he is madara....that i think the "madara's power" is about ms...again..who knows....he may be madara...may not....i think that he isnt...(opinion only)

[weasel flare]

i think hes some random uchiha. cause everyone that said that about al was right, so im gonna go with this and be wrong.

[Helix147]

I'm not getting into the "is he or isn't he" debate. But I'll say if he is, then Kisi did a great job in disguising the character by naming him Tobi. Neat little plot twist, I'm pretty sure no one saw coming.

[Apackof12ninjas]

if he indeed is obito, more information needs to be given.
At the moment, there has never been a direct connection with tobi and obito(Atleast not on solid evidence, like the multitude of theories based around theoretical and circumstantial evidence suggesting obito is tobi.

Now that we have a direct reference to madara concerning tobi, its more likely at the present time(note that everybody who might claim im dimissing the obito theory) that uchiha madara is tobi.

Co-signed.

But aruka, this is the manga section.
If the ones who only watch the anime dont want to be spoiled, they know that this section is not the place to go wandering.

People from any part of the forum can see his sig or avatar even if he only posts in the manga section.

Because of that (among other reasons) putting spoilers in your sig or avatar is not allowed.

Currently the rules are that if the anime has shown the subject in question and revealed what the manga has revealed then its no longer a spoiler.

And its considered a spoiler if it reveals who a character is or what they are saying/doing or anything plot wise. Such spoilers will be removed with or without warning depending on the spoiler.

[jorge5604]

Originally Posted by weasel flare

i think hes some random uchiha. cause everyone that said that about al was right, so im gonna go with this and be wrong.

I totally agree with the random Uchiha, but it would be intresting to see Kakashi and Obito together

[Sdsky]

Originally Posted by jorge5604

I totally agree with the random Uchiha, but it would be intresting to see Kakashi and Obito together

agree...make some sense tobi=obito....a lot of sense...but well.could be only his body.would make some sense...i mean..sasori turn into a puppet...why cant they take obito "dead body" and use it?

[San Goku]

Tobi is Madara or Obito, I will not be mad anymore on the theories.

[Drock1492]

well i'll tell u why i don't think it's obito. In the anime, they completley skipped the kakashi gaiden. Now when it gets to this point in the manga, they would have alot of problems. Think about it, you don't really think kakashi is gonna see him without his mask on and there is gonna be a flash back of how kakashi got his sharingan do you? I mean, that flashback would be like 3 or 4 episodes long! lol And for all of you that are gonna say, "Well when the anime came out, they didn't know this was gonna happen" well your an idiot. They do know because as there making the anime Masashi Kishimoto is telling them what is goin to happen so they don't screw shit up like that! One more thing, who ever came up with this theory.... YOU JUST GOT PWNED! lol

[Nimrodolodain]

Originally Posted by San Goku

Tobi is Madara or Obito.

That exactly what i to just realized sort of....

Just been thinking.. Could it be posible if this is
Madaras dead body, with Tobi as some sort of live
soul to that body..? No, guess that would be to wierd,
but maybe some sort of jutsu as Orochimaru`s jutsu... just without
the looks

[Im Wright]

Mangekyo Sharingan, when used by Itachi, allows him to access powers such as Tsukiyomi (the shadow world in which he trapped Kakshi, yes) and Amaterasu, the black flames we saw after he broke out of Jiraiya's frog stomach prison.

Kakashi's MS is different then Itachi's, both in appearance and what powers it grants. Kakashi's has the power to banish things/people within a limited area to another dimension. (Deidara's arm for instance)

This is why I think about Madara. What if he contained an ultimate MS! Itachi, Kakashi, and what maybe Sasuke's MS abilities. He could've divided his power into three thus giving three different types of MS to the people. Tobito the thrid user of the MS is gonna attempt get all the MS users into a machine which will fuse all MS's together to unleash the Sharingan's true power... Uchiha Madara's power... will be his power.

Why else would the MS only have three people capable of using it? The spots in the eye (The regular Sharingan), three users Capable of the MS, Three different abilies and eyes (assuming sasuke gets his). Kakashi only achieved the MS because it was ment for obito to be the third user. And now he waiting on sasuke to achieve the MS so he can extract it from both Itachi and Sasuke assuming he already has the third MS That kakashi has already.

Pein took Itachi's job as far as getting the 9 tails because Tobi must kill and/or use Itachi. Itachi is a liability now and Tobi can help Pein with the Akatsuki's major goal. Obito won't need a Bijuu with Madar's ulimate MS.

Maybe Tobio blames Kohona for what happened to him. And this is how he's exacting his revenge.

[Insin]

"My power. The power of Uchiha Madara."

When Itachi says "The power of the Uchiha" does that mean he's not an Uchiha, but possesses the Uchiha's power?

No, Itachi is Itachi Uchiha.

And Tobi is Madara Uchiha, in one form or the other.

[PC Chris]

How does that fit? Obito blames Konoha for what happened to him? that doesn't fit. >_>

[Batr]

Is tobi the person pein was talking to in ch 363?

[Gathan]

Originally Posted by mossarelli

Why wouldn't a guy that got a pole smashed into his face look like Tobi after a surgery? Why does Tobi have a sharingan just like Obito? Why does the name Tobi have the same letters as in Obito? Those facts are clear to me.

Tobi doesn't have the same letters in Obito. His name is missing a extra o

[Im Wright]

Originally Posted by zsladexx

How does that fit? Obito blames Konoha for what happened to him? that doesn't fit. >_>

I'm not sure on that. But that is the only hole I can think of in my theory.

[A|ex]

i still find it hard to believe that tobi is the leader, what if there are two tobi's ? the attitude of one before the last chapter doesnt fit just right. Either that or he has 2 minds?