Is Exorcism real?

[Bonkai Renji]

PC Chris why are you the type of person who needs a %100 evidence that something is real and do you believe in spirits?

You don't need a lot of evidence for something to exist like how does a water spout exist?

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Originally Posted by PC Chris

Believing in it isn't enough to warrant an explanation.

If someone is claiming or what have you to be possessed, and they have no mental illness then chances are they're faking it. Unless you can prove that demons exist and can possess the body it isn't real.

Im afraid u misunderstood wat i said and im having a hard time explaining it in clearer terms. When u said that there is no real proof for exorcism so the person might either be faking it or he/she might have a mental issue, i claimed that since u think it is non-existent, u cannot really assume that ppl r simply faking it and so forth. To be honest, we cannot even explain it ourselves since it's something beyond our capabilities to grasp, but it is still possible.

[PC Chris]

@wesker: I know what you're saying now, in that case I just miss worded my original response x_X

Originally Posted by Captain Renj

PC Chris why are you the type of person who needs a %100 evidence that something is real and do you believe in spirits?

I don't need something 100% in order to believe in it. However there is NO evidence for spirits or any of that, so why would I believe something that holds no merit?

It would be like picking up that national inquirer and seeing an article on bat boy and believing it.

You don't need a lot of evidence for something to exist like how does a water spout exist?

Waterspout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[buckmajor]

Well I won't hold back here.

Me and a friend help deliever someone from a demonic spirit and it wasn't an easy process since it was my first time but the lord came through. I'm no priest or monk to need that kind of authority to cast out any demonic forces but I do live by faith in the word of GOD(Holy Bible). You may only live by sight but if your that curious or unsure then ask a demon to whisper in your ears at night time and see what happens lol.

[Yedi]

Originally Posted by buckmajor

Well I won't hold back here.

Me and a friend help deliever someone from a demonic spirit and it wasn't an easy process since it was my first time but the lord came through. I'm no priest or monk to need that kind of authority to cast out any demonic forces but I do live by faith in the word of GOD(Holy Bible). You may only live by sight but if your that curious or unsure then ask a demon to whisper in your ears at night time and see what happens lol.

Ask the demon whom whisper in my ears? get real if you hear whispers in your ear you would check it with a physiologist before trying something else.
You helped someone deliver someone from demonic spirit? what evidence do you have that it was a demonic entity? probably 0%.

[pygmalion]

ah .. exorcism are quite a disturbing topic, aren't they?! of course there are people that call themselfs exorcists - working for the "holy roman catholic church" or other organizations .. and as such noone can deny their existence. obviously they would perform exorcisms on possessed people, whose relatives might speak prove of the exorcism later on. but then all that fades away if one does not believe in the existence of demons/possessed persons. i do believe in the Lord and i live as a christian, but still i don't believe in demons. thus i can't say "exorcism is real", even though i know of people who acutally are exorcists and perform exorcisms. there's no substance to that expression. i mean everybody can tell you everything they want, but if it concerncs something you don't believe in, it's just talks. try convincing a person who never felt the Lord's presence that He exists.. your chances are bad. same goes for exorcism without demons .. if there are no demons (which is what i think), there can't be real exorcisms. that's all there is to it.

[Rafcio]

Originally Posted by buckmajor

Well I won't hold back here.

Me and a friend help deliever someone from a demonic spirit and it wasn't an easy process since it was my first time but the lord came through. I'm no priest or monk to need that kind of authority to cast out any demonic forces but I do live by faith in the word of GOD(Holy Bible). You may only live by sight but if your that curious or unsure then ask a demon to whisper in your ears at night time and see what happens lol.

Please do elaborate on how you figured out that this someone was possessed, and what this tough process of exorcism consisted of.

[buckmajor]

Please do elaborate on how you figured out that this someone was possessed, and what this tough process of exorcism consisted of.

For your question Rafcio sure, as soon as the person is in no longer control of their body and not speaking their natural language then this can be easily and more recognized as someone binded by another stronger Spirit. This is not easy for me to explain but I tried as best as possible. All I know He was delivered and is normal again. Will it matter if I got him to do video conference about his experience? Then I guess that would be waste of a time too since you wont even believe it. I dont really care about your eternal and forever asking evidence. All I know this is not a topic to speak lightly of, they are real and your only setting up traps for yourselves cause your not covered by the blood of JESUS. Bless you if you are covered my fellow friends of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ask the demon whom whisper in my ears? get real if you hear whispers in your ear you would check it with a physiologist before trying something else.
You helped someone deliver someone from demonic spirit? what evidence do you have that it was a demonic entity? probably 0%.

Lol hey Jedi I was only joking about asking a demon to whisper in your ears (I was being sarcastic). Thats upto you choose in what you want to believe. I already spoken what is needed to be said.

CHEERS

[Insin]

Originally Posted by buckmajor

For your question Rafcio sure, as soon as the person is in no longer control of their body and not speaking their natural language then this can be easily and more recognized as someone binded by another stronger Spirit.

What language? If it's jibberish, you should know that everyone is fluent in that.

All I know this is not a topic to speak lightly of, they are real and your only setting up traps for yourselves cause your not covered by the blood of JESUS

. Bless you if you are covered my fellow friends of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Covered by the blood of Jesus? Sounds like it would be more like bait than anti-demon protection.

Lol hey Jedi I was only joking about asking a demon to whisper in your ears (I was being sarcastic). Thats upto you choose in what you want to believe. I already spoken what is needed to be said.

I confused the joke with the argument too.

[Rafcio]

Originally Posted by buckmajor

For your question Rafcio sure, as soon as the person is in no longer control of their body and not speaking their natural language then this can be easily and more recognized as someone binded by another stronger Spirit. This is not easy for me to explain but I tried as best as possible. All I know He was delivered and is normal again. Will it matter if I got him to do video conference about his experience? Then I guess that would be waste of a time too since you wont even believe it. I dont really care about your eternal and forever asking evidence. All I know this is not a topic to speak lightly of, they are real and your only setting up traps for yourselves cause your not covered by the blood of JESUS. Bless you if you are covered my fellow friends of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I didn't even ask for evidence, because I know you don't have any. I'm simply asking for a criteria which you use to figure out if someone is possessed or not, so that you can remove the mystery in your post, and reveal how pathetic it actually is.


Like Insin said saying gibberish doesn't mean anything. It would be slightly more impressive if the person spoke in a language he/she didn't understand (latin is usually pretty popular in movies because it has this authoritative sound to it) but it's always the continent unknown "languages".

Not being in control of your body is a pretty crappy reason too, considering that if you're epileptic for example, you loose control over your body. This is actually one of the reasons that historically people were considered to be possessed.

So the question arises: is the person not receiving proper medical attention, or is he subconsciously or consciously acting out his role in this event that is recognized in your religious group.

Not surprisingly, you never get Muslims suddenly speaking tongues. Perhaps your religion is more susceptible to demons? Perhaps converting would be a good idea?

What's the harm in exorcisms?

[Naima]

It is probably true, because i have seen some people really get nuts when they start excorism, it causing "demons" to take over person's body.

[Syfer Van Hyden]

I have never seen an exorcism take place in front of my very eyes, but do i believe that such things r possible? Yes i do.

[zairusdee]

Yes, it is real. I saw it so many times. If you want experience it also can... you can go to indonesia... there are lot of people there know how to handle this demon... if you're not brave enough, I advice do not try it, because, this demon will follow in your entire life... when you die later, this demon will find you children and grand children...

In malaysia and indonesia... this tradition is still continue.. if you want to see a movie that tell true story about exorcism... find this movie "Jangan Pandang Belakang". This is a true story of demon... I also have this experience before....

[slomlom]

i believe in exorcisms. and yes sometimes people do die during the procedures, BUT its up to their... what's the word.. legal guardian.. or the person that's in charge of what happens to them should they be in a coma, etc. to make the choice. should the person die, well it was a risk the guardian was willing to make. They shouldn't hold the exorcist responsible (as in jail him/her) unless he/she was drunk, etc.

[Rafcio]

Yeah, killing people is acceptable, but killing them while being drunk is where the line is crossed.

GTFO

[PyroDog]

I personally exorcised a friend of mine. She was acting violently, swearing, and saying blasphemous things. We had to restrain her (she was extremely strong!) and gave me a black eye. In the end, however, with the help of our lord god, we exorcised her and cast out the demon. It was a test of faith that I passed.



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people who believe in "demons" possessing people are clearly fucking retarded.

[pschy_leprae]

Originally Posted by Albert Wesker

I have never seen an exorcism take place in front of my very eyes, but do i believe that such things r possible? Yes i do.

rolf remember that time when Amar told us his mom was posed by jewish demon and was talking Hebrew ?

[Archon]

Well obviously the practice of Excorcism is real, even if you think the reason for it being done is dubious.

However, I believe it is a very dangerous practice, physically and mentally, and is used to further control the masses whom are unable or incapable of thinking for themselves.

[Hirako Shinji]

Its only real if you believe that it is real to be honest. But, the act of removing a demon spirit from a mere human is possible in most events. Like what happened in that movie called "The Exorcist". Something like that can happen.

[acap_au3]

no way man...there is not a such thing...come on ppl we a updated not outdated....XD