Religion and Marriage

[kafukai]

Originally Posted by rising crescent

in Islam whether male/female are forbidden to marry another religion people whatever their excuses.

because religion is way of life, how about their children?

That's a good question. But in the Islam the child's religion decide by the father, and in the Judaism and the Christianity decide by the mother. Most of the times in mixed marriage(with Muslim) it decide by the mother.

[rising crescent]

That's a good question. But in the Islam the child's religion decide by the father, and in the Judaism and the Christianity decide by the mother. Most of the times in mixed marriage(with Muslim) it decide by the mother.

from what I know. Mixed marriage is forbidden whatever their excuses.

If they really want marriage. Then one must leave his/her religion in order to Avoid mixed religion for their children

[kafukai]

Originally Posted by rising crescent

from what I know. Mixed marriage is forbidden whatever their excuses.

If they really want marriage. Then one must leave his/her religion in order to Avoid mixed religion for their children

No, the mixed marriage(in Islam) invented to solve political or financial problems. I never heard about case as one of the married Muslims leave his/her religion, but I heard that the children took their mother religion(I met Jews or Christians as their father his a Muslim and in the opposite direction) or few years later the convert their religion.

[Syfer Van Hyden]

Originally Posted by rising crescent

in Islam whether male/female are forbidden to marry another religion people whatever their excuses.

because religion is way of life, how about their children?

I believe u got it wrong. A muslim can marry a non-muslim provided that the non-muslim converts to islam.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by Pr0fessional_Wesker

No, not entirely true, a Muslim can marry a non-Muslim so long as she converts to Islam, or if i remember correctly that it is permitted that a Muslim marries a person from the 3 religions of the 3 holy Books (a christian, muslim or Jew) [ref.1]. < I may be wrong on this part so plz feel free to correct me if i am. But i do know for sure that it is fine to marry a non-muslim so long as that person converts.

A Muslim male may marry a non-Muslim female who needs to then convert to Islam.

A female Muslim cannot marry a non-muslim male no matter what.

Originally Posted by Pr0fessional_Wesker

And plz disregard the issue that Muslim parents r the ones to choose their spouse for their children, that is WRONG. U r free to marry whoever (not same sex ofc) so long as u believe that he/she is worthy of marraige and that the person converts to Islam or plz refer to [ref.1] < but i maybe wrong on this part.

In Islam, the child has no say against their parents if their parents want the child to marry someone.

[kafukai]

Originally Posted by Majin

A female Muslim cannot marry a non-muslim male no matter what.

In some countries nowadays there's option to marry with a non-Muslim but I think the woman will be banned.

[Ericgamer1]

Originally Posted by kafukai

In some countries nowadays there's option to marry with a non-Muslim but I think the woman will be banned.

Banned from being muslim? That's really messed up.

What difference does it make who marries who? I know loads of people that have married of different religons before. Nothing wrong with it at all.

[kafukai]

Originally Posted by Ericgamer1

Banned from being muslim? That's really messed up.

What difference does it make who marries who? I know loads of people that have married of different religons before. Nothing wrong with it at all.

From the community. She stay a Muslim but she'll get "mark of Cain" 'cause she was go against the religion.

[Ericgamer1]

Originally Posted by kafukai

From the community. She stay a Muslim but she'll get "mark of Cain" 'cause she was go against the religion.

Society today... *sigh*

I just don't see what the whole point is of deeming someone to be less just because they love someone who happends to be of a different religon.

[kafukai]

Originally Posted by Ericgamer1

Society today... *sigh*

I just don't see what the whole point is of deeming someone to be less just because they love someone who happends to be of a different religon.

If someone love someon and the religion disturb never live in a community. Move a country, 'cause then you'll be different.
And in those countries "different" is the name of the game.

[rising crescent]

That's a good question. But in the Islam the child's religion decide by the father, and in the Judaism and the Christianity decide by the mother. Most of the times in mixed marriage(with Muslim) it decide by the mother.

whatver its excuses,someone who make mixed marriage in Islam is against Law of Islam.

I believe u got it wrong. A muslim can marry a non-muslim provided that the non-muslim converts to islam

maybe you miss read my reply :

A female Muslim cannot marry a non-muslim male no matter what.

except,that man convert to Islam

What difference does it make who marries who? I know loads of people that have married of different religons before. Nothing wrong with it at all.

of course wrong.
Mixed marriage bring Mixing Religion.

I just don't see what the whole point is of deeming someone to be less just because they love someone who happends to be of a different religon.

Unfortunately,honey.....

Love cannot change Rules of Life

If someone love someon and the religion disturb never live in a community. Move a country, 'cause then you'll be different.
And in those countries "different" is the name of the game.

it will become tough life.

[kafukai]

rising crescent,
I didn't get your point. I saw a lot of mixed marriages with Muslims this is not bad how it look like but there's something in what are you saying, but any way in the end those people feel happy and this is not bother other people so much.

[Keerua]

Originally Posted by Tony

I'm not entirely sure what the customs of Islam are, but I have Muslims friends who say that their parents will be the ones who will choose their spouses for them, from another Muslim family. My Teacher, Miss Dahlal who is a muslim, says that she will be the one who chooses her sons' bride.

Thats culture, certain countrys do not allow marriage between people from different classes etc, not by law but thats the way of the people.

Were not discussing what happens in certain countries.

It is flatly wrong in Islam to marry a non-Muslim.

Wed not idolatresses till they believe; for lo! a believing bondwoman is better than an idolatress though she please you; and give not your daughters in marriage to idolaters till they believe, for lo! a believing slave is better than an idolater though he please you. These invite unto the Fire, and Allah inviteth unto the Garden, and unto forgiveness by His grace, and expoundeth His revelations to mankind that haply they may remember.
-Sura 2:221

Thats a 1400 year old law which you have to see in context with da history. Most muslims don't take the Quran word for word 100%

In Islam, the child has no say against their parents if their parents want the child to marry someone.

Where do you get this?

[Apoo]

lmao. 'Love cannot change the rules of live.'

As if these 'rules' were some kind of consensus or anything.

[kafukai]

Tony right!!!
The real story of "Romeo and Juliet" can happend to anyone. Love can hit you like a boomerang.

[narutobadsha]

Originally Posted by Majin

In Islam, the child has no say against their parents if their parents want the child to marry someone.

proof from Islam?

[narutofanboy]

In the US, protestant christianity is the main form of Christianity, and many denominations allow divorce, though they dont condone it.

[sokomonos]

like Pr0fessional_Wesker said : a male muslim can marry a chrestian or jew female , a female muslim can only marry a muslim male

about

It is flatly wrong in Islam to marry a non-Muslim.

Wed not idolatresses till they believe; for lo! a believing bondwoman is better than an idolatress though she please you; and give not your daughters in marriage to idolaters till they believe, for lo! a believing slave is better than an idolater though he please you. These invite unto the Fire, and Allah inviteth unto the Garden, and unto forgiveness by His grace, and expoundeth His revelations to mankind that haply they may remember.
-Sura 2:221

don't get me wrong but that what happens when u try to understand a translated version of Quraan by yourself

in islam there are some rules where there is a diffrance between chrestians, jew (named in quraan "ahl ketab" ) and non-believers like hindo .....etc

so here it is clear that muslims are forbiden to marry from non believers

if u see this

This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).
sura 5:5

it says u can marry women from the people of the book (christians and jew )

[Lokki]

Well. This proves only, that religion should NOT be mixed with marriage and Love of humanbeings anymore. It is just one big bag on intolerance.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by sokomonos

like Pr0fessional_Wesker said : a male muslim can marry a chrestian or jew female , a female muslim can only marry a muslim male

Yeh what i said.

Originally Posted by majin

A Muslim male may marry a non-Muslim female who needs to then convert to Islam.

A female Muslim cannot marry a non-muslim male no matter what.

Originally Posted by sokomonos

This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).
sura 5:5

it says u can marry women from the people of the book (christians and jew )

There is a contradiction in Islam here, for Islam at the end lists Christians and Jews as polytheists.

9:30 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
9:31 They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God. There is no God save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!


Narrated Nafi’:
Whenever Ibn ‘Umar was asked about marrying a Christian lady or a Jewess, he would say: "Allah has made it unlawful for the believers to marry ladies who ascribe partners in worship to Allah, and I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah's slaves."
-http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/063.sbt.html#007.063.209